it's Obamas fault

[canndo]

Revolution-we need to raise up and march, stop crying online and march for a change or else the government will continue to control our every decision.

Somehow you believe that your government is "controlling your every decision"? Try as I might I can't seem to come up with more than a small handful of decisions of mine the government has controled.

 

[fb360]

the right, in general seems to believe that consensus is some sort of indicator of correctness. They thrive on group approval over honesty, they cling to common belief over honest appraisal. Why, Fox news reports are genuinely unbiased and authentic because FOX has such a wide audience. Bush's approval ratings were high so that means that Bush must have addressed the issues of his day without politicization or bias.

And of course,the day that more people believe the earth is 6000 years old than do not, it will miraculously become scientific fact.

The article I posted was from USAToday, not fox.

The statistics were from Gallup. American's, not republicans, give him a 23% approval rating.
Sounds as if you like to put blame on republicans listing to fox, but fail to see that you listening to CNN is the EXACT same thing. Aka political bias you seem to think only republicans have

Among the Obama voters, the optimism of four years ago has been tempered. Kimberly Gillis, 42, a high-school English teacher, says it will be "positive" and Stearns struggles to find a word, then settles on "interesting." Jackson predicts a "tug of war." Jim Pierce, 48, who manages housing units, expects a "stalemate."
^^ The words of success!

 

[echelon1k1]

No, but it may mean that the shepherd is shrewd enough to have amassed that number of sheep and kept them fat and happy enough not to have strayed from the flock..

That shepherd must be giving out welfare cheques like it ain't no thaaiinngg...

 

[canndo]

no idea what its actually called but it goes into house tomorrow from what i hear and has to do with making anything with a pistol grip class 3, pistols with threaded barrels the same. limiting magazine size to something like 10 rounds, etc. dont know all the info on it.

So you are complaining about this massive and monstrous ban that you don't know much about.

 

[tibberous]

Obama is no one's "candidate" because he is Everyone's president

That's how the government was supposed to be, before special interests and political parties turned it to shit. Problem is, we were founded as a federation, not really a country. They should make it so the senate race is done by parties and seats awarded based on a percent - if the green party or libertarians or communists can get 1%, give them 1 representative - then voters wouldn't be lumped into one of two platforms that aren't really even sensical (who even decided democrats were for gun control? why would being for gay marriage make you against defense spending? - it's stupid)

 

[woody333333]

Keeping us from plunging into a major Depression is an accomplishment of great value that no one will give him adequate credit for because folks don't commonly laud people for preventing a disaster that they didn't really comprehend in the first place.

Seeing to it that 2 million unemployed people have just enough to continue their search for a job could be considered nothing of value - except for those 2 million.

For the rest of us? our having our paychecks largely preserved happens to be something of value while we also tend to agree that increasing the revenue of the country with a gentle increase in taxes on those who can most afford it: is also something of value.

Those who's children are now covered under insurance that before wouldn't glance twice at them, can be considered of some value. Those who themselves are being denied any health insurance at all because they are taking high blood pressure meds or cholesterol meds - controlling those pre-existing conditions but not well enough to be considered by health insurance companies - is something of value to them at the very least, to their families and friends, their employers perhaps and the general population as well.

We see your flawed approach to this in your statement "Dumb democrats that won't admit their candidate is horrible". The statement is made in ignorance of realty. Obama is no one's "candidate" because he is Everyone's president, including being yours.

I marvel at those who entreat others to "think for themselves" while they spout the most repeated republican talking points and the most recent Fox distorted "facts".

and he got bin laden

 

[canndo]

The article I posted was from USAToday, not fox.

The statistics were from Gallup. American's, not republicans, give him a 23% approval rating.
Sounds as if you like to put blame on republicans listing to fox, but fail to see that you listening to CNN is the EXACT same thing. Aka political bias you seem to think only republicans have

I think you are missing the point. I'll make it again, the opinion of the masses is not, by virtue of their being a mass, accurate. I take no issue with the origin of the poll but with your interpretation of it's meaning.

 

[drolove]

So you are complaining about this massive and monstrous ban that you don't know much about.

exactly. i have someone WHO DOES know about it relaying info about it back to me. but no i personally dont know EVERYTHING about it. i know enough to know its fucked up!

 

[canndo]

That shepherd must be giving out welfare cheques like it ain't no thaaiinngg...

I see,so this particular half black "shepherd" is personally signing big checks to poor people so they will vote for him..... when and for what again?

 

[canndo]

exactly. i have someone WHO DOES know about it relaying info about it back to me. but no i personally dont know EVERYTHING about it. i know enough to know its fucked up!

You depend upon some pre-qualified other to do your thinking for you but seem to agree that we Dems are.... sheep.

 

[tibberous]

drolove [/B];8465965]limiting magazine size to something like 10 rounds

Yes, all the innocent lives that would be saved if spree killers had to load %40 more often. That, and the fact that if they pass it tomorrow it will be 20 years before the grandfathered mags become hard to come by.

 

[echelon1k1]

and he got bin laden

No - JSOC got bin laden... Big difference. A ground assault was authorised so Barry could pass the buck if it went to shit... If he'd authorised an air strike HE'D be responsible for the outcome.

He and his administration had a media free for all throwing OPSEC & PERSEC to the wind...

 

[fb360]

I think you are missing the point. I'll make it again, the opinion of the masses is not, by virtue of their being a mass, accurate. I take no issue with the origin of the poll but with your interpretation of it's meaning.

You are correct, and I understand that. What you must comprehend is that there is NO factual metric to which we can judge the President individually on...

The gallup poll, consisting of democrats, republicans, and others, is a good metric for determining how people "feel" about Obama.
Note how I used the term "approval rating", inherently implying that it is opinionated.

The point of my first post is that to get 23% of the nation, when he just won the popular vote, there must be individuals who once supported him, that no longer currently do. Ergo, the nation is beginning to realize that he has/is failing

Bringing facts into the matter, factually speaking, Obama has spent more money, accumulating more debt, than any other single president. We could go into more facts, such as his rampant and numerous lies, but even the illiterate know we don't have to go there

 

[Rob Roy]

Somehow you believe that your government is "controlling your every decision"? Try as I might I can't seem to come up with more than a small handful of decisions of mine the government has controled.

You are smoking the high test again aren't you?

 

[drolove]

You depend upon some pre-qualified other to do your thinking for you but seem to agree that we Dems are.... sheep.

ok well anywho heres a good video explaining it in a little depth. 16 and a half mins. watch, listen, learn. and btw THIS is not my source but good info on this ban.

[video=youtube;JDglpt8hpyg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDglpt8hpyg&feature=player_embedded#![/video]

 

[canndo]

No - JSOC got bin laden... Big difference. A ground assault was authorised so Barry could pass the buck if it went to shit... If he'd authorised an air strike HE'D be responsible for the outcome.

He and his administration had a media free for all throwing OPSEC & PERSEC to the wind...

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That isn't how it works and you know it. Were that mission have gone to shit he would have himself be placed on the fireing line. Carter was blamed for his failure to retrieve the hostages, Reagan was lauded for saving them - Carter wasn't on the helicopter and Reagan brought no weapon into Iran.

This is all constant nonsense, the leaders of any enterprise are praised for the accomplishments of their charges and brought into question when those enterprises fail.

Oh, except for Obama, who gets no credit unless he and he alone blows Bin Laden's head off. In this case everyone BUT him deserves credit right?

 

[echelon1k1]

We see your flawed approach to this in your statement "Dumb democrats that won't admit their candidate is horrible". The statement is made in ignorance of realty. Obama is no one's "candidate" because he is Everyone's president, including being yours.

I marvel at those who entreat others to "think for themselves" while they spout the most repeated republican talking points and the most recent Fox distorted "facts".

The article I posted was from USAToday, not fox.

The statistics were from Gallup. American's, not republicans, give him a 23% approval rating.

Canndo - Something about thinking for yourself? Maybe start with getting your facts straight....

 

[canndo]

You are smoking the high test again aren't you?

On those rare instances I do smoke, yes it is only the best. But the statement was that our every decision was controlled by the government and I take issue with this broadly painted complaint that so often goes unexamined.

My decision to post this was not controlled by my government, nor is my descision to break open a bag of seaweed snacks for lunch.

 

[canndo]

Canndo - Something about thinking for yourself? Maybe start with getting your facts straight....

Again, you aren't getting the point. There currently is no presidential "candidate" now is there. Popular sentiment regarding the current direction of this country means little, the source of the poll means less.

 

[superfoxwon]

Choices-you have none, its their speed you drive, its their taxes you pay, its their laws you obey. You live in a fantasy.