How many of you are going to bitch about Obama care after 2016?

[canndo]

I am willing to go out on a limb here and say that although many of you will continue to complain about government in general and obama in particular, deep inside you will think that obama care wasn't such a bad idea at all, and many of you, if presented with a new "plan" to abolish it will look at what you now have and refuse to go along.



Well? want to answer truthfully now? or shall we wait?

 

[ASMALLVOICE]

I will not, as I have my own insurance and have had it for years. I do not need the government to spank me for not taking care of my business. If you have a family, go get insurance, cause you are going to pay one way or the other now, thanks to Change...lol

Peace

Asmallvoice

 

[ChesusRice]

I will not, as I have my own insurance and have had it for years. I do not need the government to spank me for not taking care of my business. If you have a family, go get insurance, cause you are going to pay one way or the other now, thanks to Change...lol

Peace

Asmallvoice

I would rather you pay now than me pay later becuase you are irresponsible and my tax dollars have to pay for your medicaid

 

[ASMALLVOICE]

I would rather you pay now than me pay later becuase you are irresponsible and my tax dollars have to pay for your medicaid

I have no idea how old you are, I am almost 50 and I have never collected a penny of unemployment and never will. I have had insurance my entire adult life, raised 2 children. I would be willing to bet, I have paid more in taxes than you ever will and that will more than likely be the truth till we are both in the ground m8.

You seem like a very lazy individual to make a comment like that on someone you know nothing about, but from what I can tell, only par for the course.

Peace

Asmallvoice

 

[smokeytokeybear]

I have no idea how old you are, I am almost 50 and I have never collected a penny of unemployment and never will. I have had insurance my entire adult life, raised 2 children. I would be willing to bet, I have paid more in taxes than you ever will and that will more than likely be the truth till we are both in the ground m8.

You seem like a very lazy individual to make a comment like that on someone you know nothing about, but from what I can tell, only par for the course.

Peace

Asmallvoice

word up man
power to the people that get there own way
by no means am i discrim. to the people that actually do need these things such as health care,because there is sevral people that
cannot provide for themselves such as the mentally disabled, and etc. but to the free loaders that are too lazy collecting checks and benfits, and for all the people just having babies, couldnt everyone be a tad bit more mature and actually relize what your doing, bringing in another life without means to support and adding to the unfair chance and more checks passed out, to simply satisfy your cravings. its sad that one man has to pay his taxes to support lazy peoples habits.
just a piece o my mind,
smokey

btw great topic....sub'd

 

[ChesusRice]

I have no idea how old you are, I am almost 50 and I have never collected a penny of unemployment and never will. I have had insurance my entire adult life, raised 2 children. I would be willing to bet, I have paid more in taxes than you ever will and that will more than likely be the truth till we are both in the ground m8.

You seem like a very lazy individual to make a comment like that on someone you know nothing about, but from what I can tell, only par for the course.

Peace

Asmallvoice

Well I am almost 50 have drawn almost 3 months of unemployment my entire life
and have my own insurance

And to top it off my wife works for a health insurance company

So you dont know me as well. Now lets get right to the meat of it

You are bitching you lose your right to be a free loader on society and not carry health insurance?
Is that what you are whining about?

 

[Hitch]

Man, I NEVER reply to political discussions, but I have to chime in here.

Let me tell you what Obamacare has done for me as of this date:

It has cost me 12 hours a week at work. End of list.

Unfortunately for me, when I lost my job due to a company wide layoff, I had to do whatever was necessary to take care of my wife and now 5 yr old Autistic son. So I took a menial job, rather than relocate and take my son out of the school where he is thriving. All was just barely ok, and we were making it, until a memo came down from the franchise stating that specifically due to Obamacare, all workers were being cut back from 40 hours a week to 28 hours a week. Seems that over 30 hours a week, they would have to pay benefits. So we were cut.

That was last September.

So, let's see....I still have no benefits for myself or my wife AND I lost 12 hours a week in pay.

Fuck 2016. Fuck 2015. I have no money or benefits NOW.


ps...ironically, I'm a moderate with liberal leanings. So please don't bash my dislike of Obama. Or any higher level politician. People who think the powers that be actually care about the individual should perhaps re-educate themselves.

pps...I respect your opinion, even if I disagree, and I would fight for your right to express it. Carry on

 

[tomahawk2406]

Man, I NEVER reply to political discussions, but I have to chime in here.

Let me tell you what Obamacare has done for me as of this date:

It has cost me 12 hours a week at work. End of list.



Unfortunately for me, when I lost my job due to a company wide layoff, I had to do whatever was necessary to take care of my wife and now 5 yr old Autistic son. So I took a menial job, rather than relocate and take my son out of the school where he is thriving. All was just barely ok, and we were making it, until a memo came down from the franchise stating that specifically due to Obamacare, all workers were being cut back from 40 hours a week to 28 hours a week. Seems that over 30 hours a week, they would have to pay benefits. So we were cut.

That was last September.

So, let's see....I still have no benefits for myself or my wife AND I lost 12 hours a week in pay.

Fuck 2016. Fuck 2015. I have no money or benefits NOW.


ps...ironically, I'm a moderate with liberal leanings. So please don't bash my dislike of Obama. Or any higher level politician. People who think the powers that be actually care about the individual should perhaps re-educate themselves.

pps...I respect your opinion, even if I disagree, and I would fight for your right to express it. Carry on

just curious what the job is. big company? small company? minimum wage type pay? just curious......

 

[Guitar Man]

Fuck Obamacare! This Country can't even pay the interest on their debt, let alone run Healthcare! Shit, I would be in prison if my finances were in the tank like Uncle Sam’s are! Our Nation is about to face the music, and trust me, the song won’t be God Bless America; it will be, God SAVE America!

Like ASV, I’m over 50 years old and I have never collected 1 unemployment check in my life. I’ve also been self-employed for almost 30 years, raising 3 kids, and I’m still married to my beautiful wife of 32 years.

After working my ass off, including 6 years in the Marines, my body has been through hell! That’s one reason I started using MMJ. I’ve got Spinal Stenosis, went through 5 years of chronic prostititas, and have suffered from chronic epididymitis since I was a teenager. Pain is my middle name and the fucking doctors addicted me to narcotics. I kicked the pills to the curb over 5 years ago, “Cold Turkey (hardest thing I’ve ever done)”, and MMJ has been a life saver for me.

I could be on full blown disability right now, BUT THANK GOD I’M NOT! I run a successful business and have no desire for the Government to take care of me, ever. If I go down in flames, my family will take care of me. That’s the way it should be, but people don’t invest in their families and so they end up alone and looking for “Big Brother” to pay their dam phone bill!

Laziness is killing this Nation!

 

[UncleBuck]

I run a successful business and have no desire for the Government to take care of me, ever.

so you signed your own paychecks in the marines?

If I go down in flames, my family will take care of me. That’s the way it should be, but people don’t invest in their families and so they end up alone and looking for “Big Brother” to pay their dam phone bill!

Laziness is killing this Nation!

yep, that reagan and his reaganphones. fuck him

 

[ASMALLVOICE]

Well I am almost 50 have drawn almost 3 months of unemployment my entire life
and have my own insurance

And to top it off my wife works for a health insurance company

So you dont know me as well. Now lets get right to the meat of it

You are bitching you lose your right to be a free loader on society and not carry health insurance?
Is that what you are whining about?

I am whining about nothing M8. I have an excellent retirement plan w/ insurance as I will have 32 years with the same company and will be more than happy to live it up at the lake in just a few more years as I already own a home there and all is paid for. I suggest you and your wifey do the same. Should that fail, I have enough gold and silver that I inherited to go a long way before I would even dream of asking for assistance. Now get off your lazy ass and go get a job, and stop wasting time on here when you should be scouring the streets for employment.

Peace

Asmallvoice

 

[ChesusRice]

I am whining about nothing M8. I have an excellent retirement plan w/ insurance as I will have 32 years with the same company and will be more than happy to live it up at the lake in just a few more years as I already own a home there and all is paid for. I suggest you and your wifey do the same. Should that fail, I have enough gold and silver that I inherited to go a long way before I would even dream of asking for assistance. Now get off your lazy ass and go get a job, and stop wasting time on here when you should be scouring the streets for employment.

Peace

Asmallvoice

I said I collected a few months of unemployment in my entire life
not that I didnt have a job
Reading comprehension just another thing you fail at
Thanks to "Obamacare" you can be assured that if you ever need to use your health insurance
They just cant arbitrarily drop you like they did before

Hey remember when i told you my wife works for a helath insurance company?
We got full covereage a 1000 deductable that is paid by the company
a FSA and and a HRA

How about you?

 

[ASMALLVOICE]

I said I collected a few months of unemployment in my entire life
not that I didnt have a job
Reading comprehension just another thing you fail at
Thanks to "Obamacare" you can be assured that if you ever need to use your health insurance
They just cant arbitrarily drop you like they did before

Oh, so you are employed, my bad, all i saw was I collected 3 months of unemployment.

Are you butthurt about something, you seem to be very unsettled about your future. I hope it all works out for ya.

Peace

Asmallvoice

 

[ChesusRice]

Oh, so you are employed, my bad, all i saw was I collected 3 months of unemployment.

Are you butthurt about something, you seem to be very unsettled about your future. I hope it all works out for ya.

Peace

Asmallvoice

We are very well off
You seem to be scared

 

[fb360]

Well I am almost 50 have drawn almost 3 months of unemployment my entire life
and have my own insurance

And to top it off my wife works for a health insurance company

So you dont know me as well. Now lets get right to the meat of it

You are bitching you lose your right to be a free loader on society and not carry health insurance?
Is that what you are whining about?

Freeloader? You do realize that if you make money, and don't have insurance, you pay for it completely out of pocket, correct?

What are you even talking about?

 

[ChesusRice]

Freeloader? You do realize that if you make money, and don't have insurance, you pay for it completely out of pocket, correct?

What are you even talking about?

Oh you do?
So you can just drop a 100k for surgery

If you are that well off why you worried at all?

 

[fb360]

Oh you do?
So you can just drop a 100k for surgery

If you are that well off why you worried at all?

Many people do under paying for medical bills. e; I had to pay 15k out of pocket last year for surgery, lol..

Your ignorance amazes me.

 

[ChesusRice]

Many people do under paying for medical bills. e; I had to pay 15k out of pocket last year for surgery, lol..

Your ignorance amazes me.

You're so fucking rich

What are you whining about again?

 

[Mindmelted]

My 5 day hospital stay in may 2012 was $32,200

No one is paying it but me and payments at that.

 

[Hitch]

just curious what the job is. big company? small company? minimum wage type pay? just curious......

I am an avionics technician by trade. The job I lost was with an aircraft MRO. The current job is a bullshit minimum wage job. Big company, small franchise. Minimum wage.

Nothing like going from $18/hr to $7.30/hr. And you know what, I'm not complaining publicly about my wage or job, I would scrub toilets to take care of my family.

I just wanted to express my opinion on Obamacare since some of the posts seem so hostile towards people like me. And I have legitimate issue with the bill. Which other poster has it personally affected? It is so easy to make snap judgments when you are an outside observer, but I have found that those same individuals typically alter their tune when the shit hits close to home.

Again, everyone has a right to an opinion. They just carry more weight with me when folks are thoughtful as well as erudite.

Oh.....and this thread makes me want a fucking doobie lmao.