OGEvilgenius
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That explains everything.
I bet you eat a lot of fluoride tablets.
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/features/features/fluoride-childrens-health-grandjean-choi.html
Nurse fired for refusing flu vaccine
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I bet you eat a lot of fluoride tablets.
desert dude
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Here is the paraphrase: The nurse that was fired had ample warning that getting vaccinated was a job requirement and that she would be fired is she did not get vaccinated.
desert dude
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Ewww! You sound just a little bit aroused, moron.
Samwell Seed Well
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sounds like a fair firing to me . . . .but im not a bleeding heart lib . . .
i just think fair is fair and if miss rebellion knew about it and thought she was going to be an exception to their rule then maybe a different hospital is abetter choice vs making headlines and being that nurse that creates waves . .sometimes the best plan is just to take it and move on
but she may have legitimately either not known or was confused . . . either way im not sure why this is news . . . .other than i think that hospital will be changing there policies . . that nurse will more than likely still be fired so .. .idk . .ramble over, i just had some errl and am kinda spacey
i just think fair is fair and if miss rebellion knew about it and thought she was going to be an exception to their rule then maybe a different hospital is abetter choice vs making headlines and being that nurse that creates waves . .sometimes the best plan is just to take it and move on
but she may have legitimately either not known or was confused . . . either way im not sure why this is news . . . .other than i think that hospital will be changing there policies . . that nurse will more than likely still be fired so .. .idk . .ramble over, i just had some errl and am kinda spacey
cannabineer
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Son, that's no way to go through life. cn
Flu infections sweep America hospitalizing thousands and leaving 18 children dead of complications, and it's going to get worse
The U.S. has been hit with a particularly aggressive early flu season this year with widespread reports of the illness across the country, hospitalizing 2,257 people and leaving 18 children dead before the end of 2012.
And health officials say the numbers haven't even peaked yet.
'I think we're still accelerating,' Tom Skinner, a Center for Disease Control and Prevention spokesman, told reporters.
The latest figures from the CDC show 29 states and New York City reporting high levels of flu activity, up from 16 states and New York City just one week prior.
Overall, 41 states reported cases.
'It’s about five weeks ahead of the average flu season,' said Lyn Finelli, lead of the surveillance and response team that monitors influenza for the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. 'We haven’t seen such an early season since 2003 to 2004.'
During that flu season, Joe Lastinger's daughter Emily, 3, died only five days after coming down with the flu in late January. ...
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2257597/Flu-infections-sweep-America-hospitalizing-thousands-leaving-18-children-dead-complications-going-worse.html#ixzz2HOvaXC00
- 2,257 people have been hospitalized since the start of flu season
- Three-fourths of those with symptoms say the were not vaccinated
- 41 states have reported cases
The U.S. has been hit with a particularly aggressive early flu season this year with widespread reports of the illness across the country, hospitalizing 2,257 people and leaving 18 children dead before the end of 2012.
And health officials say the numbers haven't even peaked yet.
'I think we're still accelerating,' Tom Skinner, a Center for Disease Control and Prevention spokesman, told reporters.
The latest figures from the CDC show 29 states and New York City reporting high levels of flu activity, up from 16 states and New York City just one week prior.
Overall, 41 states reported cases.
'It’s about five weeks ahead of the average flu season,' said Lyn Finelli, lead of the surveillance and response team that monitors influenza for the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. 'We haven’t seen such an early season since 2003 to 2004.'
During that flu season, Joe Lastinger's daughter Emily, 3, died only five days after coming down with the flu in late January. ...
desert dude
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Yeah, I have been following this too. Looks like an ugly flu season is upon us. I got my shot, as did the rest of my family. Coincidentally, none of us got sick from the shot.
canndo
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I think it depends upon the original conditions of employment.
canndo
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More bullshit from - believe it or not - the loony left. Vaccinations are not a scam. Vaccinations have saved millions of lives. Folks who have reaped the benefit of vaccinations don't recall auditoriums filled with iron lungs, folks "walking" with the aid of forest gump stainless steel shackles, the horrors of small pox and tetnus. They think these things never happened.
Vaccinations have a fraction of the mercury you eat in your tuna fish sandwich. A community depends upon immunilogical resistance in depth, these systems work best when an overwhelming portion of the population is immunized and it is not a one on one sort of solution. The more people who are immunized the less chance the virus can spread at all and being that antibodies are not foolproof, if you are not exposed because no one around you is capable of carrying the disease, then you are less likely - EVEN if you are immunized yourself, to get the disease.
Canna Sylvan
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Canndo,
One of the side effects of ALL vaccinations is sudden death for no reason. The flu doesn't have sudden death. If caught soon enough and treated in a hospital, you won't die. The problem is most don't get treated in the hospital, no matter how bad the flu gets. I'll take my chances with catching the flu than giving myself a foolproof chance of sudden death.
I'm not a lefty nut. You don't have to be one to realize you have a chance of firing dying with the flu or flu shot. The difference is, I don't choose the flu and there treatment options in case of complications. No treatment yet exists for instant death.
One of the side effects of ALL vaccinations is sudden death for no reason. The flu doesn't have sudden death. If caught soon enough and treated in a hospital, you won't die. The problem is most don't get treated in the hospital, no matter how bad the flu gets. I'll take my chances with catching the flu than giving myself a foolproof chance of sudden death.
I'm not a lefty nut. You don't have to be one to realize you have a chance of firing dying with the flu or flu shot. The difference is, I don't choose the flu and there treatment options in case of complications. No treatment yet exists for instant death.
fb360
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My mother attempts to give me a flue shot every year, and every year I let her, I end up contracting the Flu... As a consequence, I have refused the shot for the last few years and have been Flu free.
My stance is that flu shots should not be mandatory. I do understand the argument for mandating it for individuals working in health care, specifically hospitals, but I think it is flawed logically. The only requirements to be a nurse should be that you are human, and that you have the knowledge to successfully do your job. Mandating flu shots for nurses is like mandating perfect teeth on dentists, or olympic quality bodies on personal trainers, or an IQ > 160 for all of our teachers.
In fact, my last example fits perfectly, as our teachers are the individuals that educated us, as well as are educating our children. If anything should be mandatory, it should be that teachers have to be above a baseline intelligence, allowing our youth, and consequently our society, to develop successfully.
My stance is that flu shots should not be mandatory. I do understand the argument for mandating it for individuals working in health care, specifically hospitals, but I think it is flawed logically. The only requirements to be a nurse should be that you are human, and that you have the knowledge to successfully do your job. Mandating flu shots for nurses is like mandating perfect teeth on dentists, or olympic quality bodies on personal trainers, or an IQ > 160 for all of our teachers.
In fact, my last example fits perfectly, as our teachers are the individuals that educated us, as well as are educating our children. If anything should be mandatory, it should be that teachers have to be above a baseline intelligence, allowing our youth, and consequently our society, to develop successfully.
ginjawarrior
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apart from the fact that theres many different flu strains along with many different flu shots
dont you think one of the things a nurse needs to do is maybe hygiene like washing her hands?
you know the act of limiting germ and virus spread?
you do realize more people die from the flu then from the flu shot, don't you?
desert dude
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About ten years ago a friend of mine from work came down with the flu. He was pretty sick. As he began to recover from the flu, he developed pneumonia. After ten days or so, he died. When he died he was about 45 years old and otherwise a pretty healthy guy.
I don't know if he had been immunized against the flu, he might have been. The point to this story is that the flu is bad mojo. A simple shot that prevents it (mostly, not 100%) seems a pretty damn good bet to me. So, I take the shot every year.
I don't know if he had been immunized against the flu, he might have been. The point to this story is that the flu is bad mojo. A simple shot that prevents it (mostly, not 100%) seems a pretty damn good bet to me. So, I take the shot every year.
fb360
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First Part:
Washing their hands isn't "prevention" for getting bacteria on your hard. Washing your hands, in terms of a nurse or doctor, is a consequence of needing to remove the CURRENT bacteria that are on their hands. Once they are done washing, they can get bacteria on their hands just as easily as before washing. So you can see, washing your hands does NOTHING for prevention. Rather, it is an action which alleviates current unwanted organisms.
Now, the flu shot is PURELY preventative. And even then, receiving the flu shot does not guarantee that you wont get the flu, even of the same variety. Consequently, as the flu shot affects your body in various ways, it should be up to you if you want to infect yourself with a weakened strain of the flu, to attempt to prevent and/or lessen the effects.
Second Part:
Limiting germ and virus spread? Are you dumb? Firstly, the flu shot, at least in nasal "taking" form, IS THE FLU VIRUS. So you are mentally lost there already. Secondly, how the hell does receiving a flu shot limit germ and germ spread? Enlighten me how taking a shot magically makes my ability to spread germs any less.
OGEvilgenius
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Terrible intrusive policy. If your shots are so effective, why worry?
fb360
Active Member
LOL
Oh boy how dumb this post is...
1. You can get the flu with the flu vaccine...
2. The communicable nature of the flu is independent of some shot you take. Taking the shot might lessen the length of your flu, maybe even make it much less severe, however if you cough all over someone, you are spreading the virus...
3. The flu vaccine IS the flu virus. (To be more specific, you can receive the shot as antibodies, or as a weakened version of the virus itself)
4. "refuses to get the shot and gets the flu"... So you're trying to say that you should be treated differently if you get the flu, and took the shot, versus if you get the flu without taking the shot? How does that help anything? What you are trying to eliminate is the flu, not mandate the shot...
5. You do realize that the flu vaccine can affect your body in other ways than just getting your body ready for the flu correct?
6. I should mandate that if you can't think logically that you MUST take 24hour schooling, 7 days a week, until you are either logically sound, or dead. Now go; my money is on death
desert dude
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It helps to be right about your facts when you call somebody an idiot.
"What kinds of flu vaccines are available?There are two types of vaccines:
- The “flu shot” — an inactivated vaccine (containing killed virus) that is given with a needle, usually in the arm. The flu shot is approved for use in people older than 6 months, including healthy people and people with chronic medical conditions.
There are three different flu shots available: - The nasal-spray flu vaccine — a vaccine made with live, weakened flu viruses that is given as a nasal spray (sometimes called LAIV for “Live Attenuated Influenza Vaccine”
. The viruses in the nasal spray vaccine do not cause the flu. LAIV is approved for use in healthy* people 2 through 49 years of age who are not pregnant."