cali connection blackwater...boo!

rory420420 · Jan 8, 2013

Popped 5 "feminized" seeds..got 3 keepers,1 hermied and my partner didn't see it in time..I knew swerves stuff was touted to be unstable,but I chose to ignore the issues and got a crop of cannadential that is full of little half mature seeds,and the blackwater was the culprit..I culled the hermie and still have 2 keepers and they are 3 weeks away and beautiful,but I'm unsure if having a shitty quality crop is a risk anyone wants to take to find a golden egg in cali connections genetics..next time I order beans it won't be from CC...next time ill listen to that little voice in my head...and half the members here on r.I.u..

Swerve · Jan 9, 2013

let me ask perfect environment? so 3 keepers but one hermied which wouldnt make it a keeper...was it run before or no?

echlectica · Jan 9, 2013

Swerve said:
let me ask perfect environment? so 3 keepers but one hermied which wouldnt make it a keeper...was it run before or no?

Perfect? Describe perfect. If you mean no light leaks and temps in the 75-80 deg. range then shit brah it ain't hard to do. I doubt very highly that all the hermies that come from your shit are from imperfect conditions.
Someone who is depending on their grow for income would be insane to allow any of your gear in their grow, or stupid one or the other.
I got some clones from a dude once that hermie'd on me and seeded out $20k worth of buds, turned out it was something he grew from seed and had never flowered before but he decided to sell clones. I broke the dudes jaw in three places. You must have a body guard with all the grows you've fucked up with your shitty gear.

Fresh 2 De@th · Jan 9, 2013

echlectica said:
Perfect? Describe perfect. If you mean no light leaks and temps in the 75-80 deg. range then shit brah it ain't hard to do. I doubt very highly that all the hermies that come from your shit are from imperfect conditions.
Someone who is depending on their grow for income would be insane to allow any of your gear in their grow, or stupid one or the other.
I got some clones from a dude once that hermie'd on me and seeded out $20k worth of buds, turned out it was something he grew from seed and had never flowered before but he decided to sell clones. I broke the dudes jaw in three places. You must have a body guard with all the grows you've fucked up with your shitty gear.

lmfao, if this was short enough to fit in my sig, i would definitely put in there. +1 rep.

Fresh 2 De@th · Jan 9, 2013

Swerve said:
let me ask perfect environment? so 3 keepers but one hermied which wouldnt make it a keeper...was it run before or no?

Swerve, you have got to admit at some point that everyone who gets a hermie isn't an incompetent grower or trying to pull a fast one on you man. dude kept in 100 with you and said only one went crazy, im pretty sure if one hermed from his environment all of them would have hermed.
own up to it and keep it moving.
besides, you putting on this show as if money isn't a thing, what's the harm if you were to gift him a pack of seeds for his misfortune coming from one of your x's?

Corso312 · Jan 9, 2013

Got blackwater goin now, I will keep close eye on em.......question on light leaks, I have none ....but wouldn't a leak have to be more than a full moon to affect the plant? And a full moon puts off a lot of light.

Fresh 2 De@th · Jan 9, 2013

yeah, that light leak excuse seems fishy to me. honestly i got someone digging in my tents every grow after hrs, and i have yet to get a hermie from it. and the only hermie i ever had was from a PE that i thought was from some fucking with the plants after hrs was actually from salt build up and ph being out of whack. definitely was from growers error, which i believe some of these cases of hermies to be from, but when you're running the same strain with multiple phenoss and only one herm, it's definitely the genetics.

ziggaro · Jan 9, 2013

Not really F2D, one pheno may just be more susceptible to whatever caused it. High salt ph out of whack is a good way to make just about anything hermie IME.

If you're stupid enough to grow unknown plants with your 20k worth of buds that's on you, tough guy. Test grow, pick the keepers, and run it big when you know it. It's that fucking simple!

BeaverHuntr · Jan 9, 2013

Fresh 2 De@th said:
Swerve, you have got to admit at some point that everyone who gets a hermie isn't an incompetent grower or trying to pull a fast one on you man. dude kept in 100 with you and said only one went crazy, im pretty sure if one hermed from his environment all of them would have hermed.
own up to it and keep it moving.
besides, you putting on this show as if money isn't a thing, what's the harm if you were to gift him a pack of seeds for his misfortune coming from one of your x's?

Dude.. 10 pack of Jedi Kush beans here, only 2 beans popped and I grow in a sealed environment co2 enriched.

Doobius1 · Jan 9, 2013

ziggaro said:
Not really F2D, one pheno may just be more susceptible to whatever caused it. High salt ph out of whack is a good way to make just about anything hermie IME.

If you're stupid enough to grow unknown plants with your 20k worth of buds that's on you, tough guy. Test grow, pick the keepers, and run it big when you know it. It's that fucking simple!

Couldnt agree more about the test runs. somebody needs to come up with a shirt that says 'Herm's Happen'. Its a survival trait built right into the plants DNA. If it rears its ugly head don't blame the pollen chuckers. Real breeders like Simon at Serious are too rare in this game.

RedMan420 · Jan 9, 2013

echlectica said:
Perfect? Describe perfect. If you mean no light leaks and temps in the 75-80 deg. range then shit brah it ain't hard to do. I doubt very highly that all the hermies that come from your shit are from imperfect conditions.
Someone who is depending on their grow for income would be insane to allow any of your gear in their grow, or stupid one or the other.
I got some clones from a dude once that hermie'd on me and seeded out $20k worth of buds, turned out it was something he grew from seed and had never flowered before but he decided to sell clones. I broke the dudes jaw in three places. You must have a body guard with all the grows you've fucked up with your shitty gear.

LOL what a fake ass grower, I do grow for a living and when you grow for a living you setup a testing room .And you never had 20k worth of bud. Hermie's a part of growing seeds a weaning out the hermie's and other pheno's you don't like is part of growing seeds.If you really want to grow for a living setup a testing room and test it before you put it in your flower room, if you don't do that then you only have your self to blame.

Swerve · Jan 9, 2013

u always test your gear aka run then at least 2-3 times before committing to a any commercial run...i just dont understand certain things. when people say hermie there are so many things to take into account...

Corso312 · Jan 9, 2013

Eh, 20 k is not that huge really, call it 5 pounds....so five 1k lights...or four if you are real good.

bangkok101 · Jan 9, 2013

i have had great results with CC Blackwater. Everyone i shared it with said it was great.
only problem i ever had with CC is with Chem 4. Did 4 packs and some hermied and some didn't pop. might be just a bad batch but Blackwater, OGiesal, Purple Diesel all popped fine.

Swerve · Jan 9, 2013

and those that have gotten free replacement gear from me know its all how you approach me and the situation

bangkok101 · Jan 9, 2013

Swerve said:
and those that have gotten free replacement gear from me know its all how you approach me and the situation

nice meeting u at the toronto expo two years ago!

MrStickyScissors · Jan 9, 2013

Corso312 said:
Eh, 20 k is not that huge really, call it 5 pounds....so five 1k lights...or four if you are real good.

i pull 5 ponds off 3. with one strain. blue dream and a raptor hood and horti

bangkok101 · Jan 9, 2013

MrStickyScissors said:
i pull 5 ponds off 3. with one strain. blue dream and a raptor hood and horti

was blue dream a high yielder?

echlectica · Jan 9, 2013

RedMan420 said:
LOL what a fake ass grower, I do grow for a living and when you grow for a living you setup a testing room .And you never had 20k worth of bud. Hermie's a part of growing seeds a weaning out the hermie's and other pheno's you don't like is part of growing seeds.If you really want to grow for a living setup a testing room and test it before you put it in your flower room, if you don't do that then you only have your self to blame.

On the east coast, back in 2000 ( before you got out of middle school) 4lbs was $20k . And when some one sells you clones you don't stop to think "hey maybe these are untested and I should run them separate first" You would sell clones that you grew from seed and then cloned and sold without testing them? well dude did and I broke his fucking jaw. Don't know why I care but I ain't lying.

It really surprises me that no one has walked up to swerve at an expo or convention and just busted his thieving jaw. I've never used his fucked up gear because some friends warned me about it. But I'd bet there are some really pissed off people out there who would love to just jaw the dude.
And fuck you dude some people who grow for money struggle to get enough gear and nutes and shit just to make a meager living. Most people do not have money or space for testing shit. In case you forgot there's a depression ongoing weed is the new moonshine so the fact is most people have meager resources to work with. You shoudn't have to test gear thats sold at the prices this clown gets.

RedMan420 · Jan 9, 2013

echlectica said:
On the east coast, back in 2000 ( before you got out of middle school) 4lbs was $20k . And when some one sells you clones you don't stop to think "hey maybe these are untested and I should run them separate first" You would sell clones that you grew from seed and then cloned and sold without testing them? well dude did and I broke his fucking jaw. Don't know why I care but I ain't lying.

It really surprises me that no one has walked up to swerve at an expo or convention and just busted his thieving jaw. I've never used his fucked up gear because some friends warned me about it. But I'd bet there are some really pissed off people out there who would love to just jaw the dude.
And fuck you dude some people who grow for money struggle to get enough gear and nutes and shit just to make a meager living. Most people do not have money or space for testing shit. In case you forgot there's a depression ongoing weed is the new moonshine so the fact is most people have meager resources to work with. You shoudn't have to test gear thats sold at the prices this clown gets.

HaHaHa you just keep makin your self sound stupid, for one I'm older than that , and who gives a shit what shit sold for in 2000! And maybe cuz I grow killer weed but yeah I don't struggle to buy nutes or pay my bills now days, but if you have been growin for as long as you say you have and your still broke ... Hmmmmm sounds like your doing something wrong!

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