Buddha Purple Kush Auto, They look too small!!

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bawse103

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I am on day 4, and I am worried that my two plants are not growing properly. They are both really small :sad: I dont know if that is normal for this strain, or not. Like I told you before, I am using a grow tent from htg, with 250 hps at about 10" to 12" away from my plants. They are growing in 16 oz cups with FFOF. My light cycle is 18/6, and I am keeping the temps between (81 to 82) degrees F. I am not using any nutes, and I only water them when they look, and the soil feels super dry. On average I prob water one to two times during the 18 hrs, with 6 ph spring water. I have not measured how much water I give them, Sorry. any help would be greatly appreciated!!! Thanks again!!! :peace:
 

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I'm on day 48 with mine on a different forums but some advice would be she likes 10-10-10 during her short veg stage and off feeds and also she is sensitive to a lot of phosphorus in flower so keep a good 1-3-4 ratio and she will like it. Or a 1-2-1 with a 0-0-3 and molasses at 1/2 tsp a gal as soon as she starts flowering. She is an easy lockout plant if you overfeed so definitely do your off feeds with some molasses and 1/4th tsp of super thrive and she will show ya love. Send a MSG if ya need more info down the road. She has a nice smell late in flower. Expect no smell throughout most of her grow. She doesn't put out the first week like skunk does ;) enjoy and good luck!
 
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The fanned leaves on one just started to droop???:cry: Any ideas what may be causing that? I forgot to mention that I transferred them from small tree bark starter cubes (from HTG). I'm made humidity domes because my humidity is at 41% and the temp is about 81. I have the light about 14 inches above the plants, and raised the ph to about 6.5.
 
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Droopy leaves means you are over watering. For the first week your plant should be fed by only plain water cuz there is enough nutes in the soil. Humidity is fine but u need to drop that temp to 75 IMO. 81 is ok but 85 and up autos don't seem to like since their veg stage is short and anything past 85 can start to be deadly. Also I would do 24 hrs of light the first 2 wks then to 20/4 or 18/6. Get some airflow going 24/7 also. Future reference use rock wool instead of those messy cubes. But even seed straight to medium is fine. That's what I do at least (after germination and a good root pops out).
 
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Remember to always start your nute feeding at 1/4 then to 1/2 then 3/4 then last full nute recommendation. Your babies gotta get used to the nutes or you will burn/stun them. PK is really easy to grow as long as you don't over due nutes. Autos don't like too much nutes. She will grow slow at first but jump fast by day 11. Aside from the droopy over feed, she looks fine. My white domina auto started even slower but she is kickin fast now on week 3.
 
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I would find better soil also...I see u have a lot of bark in that and it could cause acidic pH levels later. What size pot do u have her in? If you didn't know autos should be put in their finished pot from start to end. I recommend a 10gal pot or at least a 5 gal. Anything bigger is worthless and anything less will give a smaller plant and less yield. My PK got to 31" in my 10gal. And she looks like she will pull 1.5oz even with nute lockout I had earlier couple weeks ago. Oh and soil should be nice and light and fluffy cuz autos love easy root grow.
 
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THANK you so much for taking the time to help me!!!:smile: I have not put any nutes in her so far. I am on day 4, but the nutes I bought are Fox Farm Trio, and I am on a budget rn lol.:-) How long before I can start adding nutes? Then, how long should I keep them at each strength? When you said earlier in the thread, 1/4th, then to 1/2 ,then 3/4 etc. Do you know if I can use that nute cycle with Trio?? The bark you see is from my soil FFOF. I have 3 gallon pots, to use when I transplant them. Do you have any idea how tall, or what I could yield with that size pot?? P.S. I know I could look this up, but what does nute lockout mean??? Thanks A BUNCH JUNX, I FUX wit U!!! haha :-)
 
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bawse103 said:
THANK you so much for taking the time to help me!!!:smile: I have not put any nutes in her so far. I am on day 4, but the nutes I bought are Fox Farm Trio, and I am on a budget rn lol.:-) How long before I can start adding nutes? Then, how long should I keep them at each strength? When you said earlier in the thread, 1/4th, then to 1/2 ,then 3/4 etc. Do you know if I can use that nute cycle with Trio?? The bark you see is from my soil FFOF. I have 3 gallon pots, to use when I transplant them. Do you have any idea how tall, or what I could yield with that size pot?? P.S. I know I could look this up, but what does nute lockout mean??? Thanks A BUNCH JUNX, I FUX wit U!!! haha :-)
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Yes you can. Obviously grow big is for veg and the other two are for flowering. Those will be good to use since they are based for your FFOF. Just keep nutes minimum and raise it safely based on her growth. Transplant them now because autos can go full time in their medium(pot) since they go for about 65-80 days. Just remember to do off feeds (feed/water/feed/water with molasses/feed/water/ etc etc). This will keep a maintenance program to keep over nute or nute burn which causes nute lockout. Nute lockout happens when a plant gets too much nutes of one of its NPK food or even micro nutes like too much cal/iron/mag/ etc...but it's more common with people giving too much of the main NPK. This causes the plant to STOP taking in nutes period and it starts to get deficiencies. Molasses helps with taste and gives good micro nutes and carbs for the plant. Just do 1/2 tsp per gal. But u don't really need it until flowering stage IMO.

As far for yield I am unsure what a 3 gal pot will yield ya. I have a couple regular skunks I'm keeping in a 3 gal right now and not sure how big they will get but yield can vary based on maintenance and care. I've seen some autos pull a full oz from 3 gal and I've seen some pull only 18-22g. hope this helps ya bro. I'll try to keep up with your grow and give you as much input from my current experience with PK auto. I will say you are gonna love her final few weeks. Her smell comes out about 4th week into flowering and buds will get bigger usually during your flush stage (wk 6&7).

Also you said you are under a 250hps light? You should do her veg life under MH blue spectrum because she will grow faster. I know ur under budget but when you get the chance u should buy one, THEN switch to red spectrum for flowering. I will post ya some good reads for ya later and pics of my girl and show ya some deficiencies I had too. I'm on my iPad at the moment so later when I'm on my pc I'll give you some homework to help ya out. Hps for veg stage can cause stretching of your plants and slower footage growth since the spectrum isnt really meant for veg but for flowering stage. You'll be fine though so no worries. But with experience comes knowledge and even I'm not that much of a guru, I just research and study and do experiments on my plants to see how they react so I know what happens for each strained I mess with. Each strain react different to growing. There is a basic outlook and there is a "personal" feel to how each like to be nurtured throughout each stage (germination/pre-veg/veg/pre-flower/flower/flush/blackout/drying timeline/ curing timeline). There are so many plants from different parts of the world they like to be treated slightly uniquely if ya get my drift, ya dig? Catch up with ya layer man. Pz
 
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Here is some pics of my girl in flowering; unfortunately I didn't take any pics while she was in veg but it was so short and she shot up super fast even under the MH light that I forgot to take pictures lol. Anyways I will show you the earliest stage I have and a comparison pic and what she looked like on day 43. She is on day 49 right now but I wont take pics again until day 55 probably. Whatever ya do dont ever use that super bloom crap I got in the picture backgroud...Its probably only good for the last week of flowering to use maybe on 1 gal of feed but I didn't have any good nutes when I started off..even now she is on a 6-12-6 (1-2-1 ratio). Honestly she would be just fine on this and I shoulda started using it first off in flowering but PK-A does great with that 1-3-4 ratio I was tellin ya about. Autos like it better thats for sure. Your FF nutes are way better to use than what I fed with. But I will be switching to Canna here next payday for my White Domina. Im using this 10-10-10 stuff in veg right now and god do my plants love it during veg. But even with the "not so best nutes" you can see what i've accomplished with an auto. She looks like a good 1.5oz puller @ 31'' in tall. And even if she doesnt pull out 1.5oz then I know for sure she will pull at least an oz just by the looks of her. A buddy of mine pulled 2 oz on his Buddah Syrup Auto strain. So 3 plants got him 6oz....I was amazed. He used Plant Magic Pro brand from the UK. But I have been talking to a local hydroponic store owner and he has advised me that Canna brand does wonders in soil I guess. I question it though...heard great things about it but I am unsure of its micro nutes compared to Dyna brand. Dyna seems to hold the best well rounded nutes and it is probably the oldest nutes on the market. Well enjoy some PK porn. Yours should be close if not better than mine below if you treat her good :). Oh and I am also using a 600w MH/HPS system so she was soakin up the light on her lonesome but loving it. Shoulda grew 3-4 plants honestly...but right now I am and they are looking great in veg under T5 lights.

PK 22'' in Day 27
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Comparison pic (Day 31 @25'' in / Day 38 @ 29'' / Day 43 at 31'' final height she stopped at then she started to widen)
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Day 43 Pics
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Oh and here is some upclose bud shots earlier stages of flowering (day 38. Just so you can lick your screen a bit :P )

PKA 30in Day 38 pic 1.jpg PKA 30in Day 38 pic 9.jpgPKA 29in Day 37 pic 2.jpg

Her cola is about the size of a 1 lt bottle right now. My goal is to get an auto to a 2 lt bottle size :) If I can pull this off on my 3rd Auto grow I will love cherish it with a 2-3 month cure process just so its that much better! Also will probably find a high yeild auto plant like Syrup to do it with. I have some other random strains set aside I cant wait to try also.
 
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:weed::clap::hump::-D Those are Fucking BOMB BRAda!!!! Thank you so much for those pics! Those are great references, for me to use. I am not trying to be a kiss-assbut I appreciate it so much!!! Just a lil recap. I am on day 5. I have not watered in the last 24 hrs. The 16 oz cups are getting lighter, but I was going to not water until they get even more light. I will just have to see how they feel. My two plants are currently 12 to 13'' from the light, and temp is at 80 to 81 F. I might just be noid, but does plant #1 look like it is stretching??? Don't you want your plants distance from the light to be warm, but not hot, if you hold the back of your hand at plant level??? PKA takes roughly 8 weeks right?? Would you say I am in pre veg, or veg stage right now??? How long should it veg, before it starts to flower?? Here's today's photos.
 
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lThese plants take about 22-27 days from seed to pre-flower. You are in pre veg witch lasts roughly a week to 12 days. Once she has her 3 leaf fan leaves then that is when you start counting her veg days. At
least that's how I was taught. My PK A started pre flowering around 24-27 days in. Once you see flower showing with her pistils then you are in flowering stage. Pre flowering is when she shows pistils ( the little white hairs ) but not much flower. If that makes sense. Normally after a week of first signs of sex ( aka her pistils showing ) you can say pre flower is over and you are in the first week of flowering. So about 14 days deep from the first signs of female or male of any plant. Cannibis normally likes warm weather in the veg stage and cold weather in the flower stage. PKA seems to me that she will take 10 weeks before you can harvest. Then you have a week to hang and dry her then another 2 weeks to mason jar cure her. So that is a total of 13 weeks before you can smoke her. But you have the choice of cutting down a week early based on how you like your buzz. It depends on her trichs and if you want to harvest at more of a head high or body medicinal high aka creamy trichs or creamy and some amber trichs. I am a harvest at about 30% amber trichs type of guy. You can read about it here -> http://www.420magazine.com/forums/harvest-preparation-curing/72323-trichome-development-harvest-time-how-get-best-high.htm

so you are in pre veg...but as soon as you see her 3 leaf fan leaves coming out then you are in veg. Pre veg is also the stage between seedling and week 1 of veg. Which is why most ppl call it the pre veg stage.
 
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The reason I am doing this is I need help with my sleep, So I guess I want what you said about when its time to harvest" body medicinal high aka creamy trichs or creamy and some amber trichs. " I Fucking hate head highs. That reminds me of sativa, and I dont want any feelings from this grow that remind me of a sativa thats for sure!!!!! next time I am going with afghan kush ryder for my sleep issues.
 
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Id go 35% total of amber and 65% creamy. That will probably suit you good for couch lock sleepy buzz. A good reference of when to flush is after all the fan leaves have turned yellow. Then a good two wks after most of your smaller leaves should be yellow since she will feed on them. You'll get a higher yield and a better buzz. I would invest in a good loupe 30x or 60x scope later in flowering. I bought a 30x magnify loupe for 15 bucks and it does the job for me IMO. After the two weeks she should be ready to harvest :) I'll keep up with your posts bro and make sure you are on the right track.
 
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bawse103 said:
:weed::clap::hump::-D Those are Fucking BOMB BRAda!!!! Thank you so much for those pics! Those are great references, for me to use. I am not trying to be a kiss-assbut I appreciate it so much!!! Just a lil recap. I am on day 5. I have not watered in the last 24 hrs. The 16 oz cups are getting lighter, but I was going to not water until they get even more light. I will just have to see how they feel. My two plants are currently 12 to 13'' from the light, and temp is at 80 to 81 F. I might just be noid, but does plant #1 look like it is stretching??? Don't you want your plants distance from the light to be warm, but not hot, if you hold the back of your hand at plant level??? PKA takes roughly 8 weeks right?? Would you say I am in pre veg, or veg stage right now??? How long should it veg, before it starts to flower?? Here's today's photos.
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thats a seedling man, you definitely have a problem, try cutting a coke bottle to make a mini-humidity chamber, wait a few days to water but next water you might want to hit it with a root stim
 
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