I haven't got a clue and I'm hoping someone else does !!

[JW5681]

Hi all

I'm stumped !!!!

I've got 2 plants growing in a tent, its my first grow and I've got a problem with one of the plants and I haven't got a clue what it is, and I that's where you lot come in........hopefully !!!

They're both Ak 48 3 weeks into flower and they have been grown in the exact same way, same soil, same water, same nutes, same temps etc etc. One of the plants is compact a good green colour and from what I can tell looking healthy and doing well, and the other is about 6 inches taller and has a more "stretched" look to it and this is the one I have the problem with, and the problem is that most of the leaves are droopy, like really droopy !!! I'm pretty sure it's not over or under watering as I'm careful with watering. I'm the first one to admit that my water Ph and the temps etc are probably not ideal but the thing that has me stumped is the other plant seems to be doing well under the same conditions !!

Any help or suggestions I could get would be very grateful cause I've put a lot of time and effort and a few £££ into this grow and I'd hate for it to go to the big garden in the sky when I could of saved her !!!

Thanks

 

[hydrosoil78]

It sounds like a sativa dominant plant maybe - is it getting enough light ?? does the planting medium have adequate drainage? watch out for soil that stays too wet

 

[JW5681]

Thanks for the reply...........

They're both under a 600w HPS light so I don't think the light is the problem but they're in 15 litre pots which I know can hold a lot of moisture. I might let that plant really dry out to rule out over watering........It can't make her more droopy so I'll give it a go.

 

[spandy]

Can we get a pic by chance, it will help us understand more what you are dealing with.

You could feed two identical plants the same everything, and one could flourish while the other wilts away, alot of factors can cause this, like any animal, humans, etc, needs are not always one size fits all.

Have you tried flushing your medium? What are your temps and humidity levels?

 

[LadyJane420]

Hi all

I'm stumped !!!!

I've got 2 plants growing in a tent, its my first grow and I've got a problem with one of the plants and I haven't got a clue what it is, and I that's where you lot come in........hopefully !!!

They're both Ak 48 3 weeks into flower and they have been grown in the exact same way, same soil, same water, same nutes, same temps etc etc. One of the plants is compact a good green colour and from what I can tell looking healthy and doing well, and the other is about 6 inches taller and has a more "stretched" look to it and this is the one I have the problem with, and the problem is that most of the leaves are droopy, like really droopy !!! I'm pretty sure it's not over or under watering as I'm careful with watering. I'm the first one to admit that my water Ph and the temps etc are probably not ideal but the thing that has me stumped is the other plant seems to be doing well under the same conditions !!

Any help or suggestions I could get would be very grateful cause I've put a lot of time and effort and a few £££ into this grow and I'd hate for it to go to the big garden in the sky when I could of saved her !!!

Thanks

Mmmkkay. What kind of droopy are we seeing? Is it a limp, lifeless droop or more of a curl, leaves almost hard? The later indicates over watering. under watered leaves will feel very thin and limp.

hope this helps

 

[Brother Numsi]

Mmmkkay. What kind of droopy are we seeing? Is it a limp, lifeless droop or more of a curl, leaves almost hard? The later indicates over watering. under watered leaves will feel very thin and limp.

hope this helps

Lord I'm a dirty old man LOL.

Genetics can play a roll and the previous posters have hit on the usual suspects. Check your variables as in temps, humidity, drainage, etc. Try changing the plant positions vis-a-vis the fan. One def sounds sativa dominant from your descriptions.

 

[hotrodharley]

Mmmkkay. What kind of droopy are we seeing? Is it a limp, lifeless droop or more of a curl, leaves almost hard? The later indicates over watering. under watered leaves will feel very thin and limp.

hope this helps

Which is why a picture is worth a thousand words.

 

[JW5681]

I'll upload a picture to give you a better idea....

Daytime temps get a bit low at about 10-15 and night time temps around 78, not too sure about humidity levels.

From what Ive read and thats a lot of info, you dont have to worry too much about ph of water when using biobizz soil so I havent thought about flushing

 

[JW5681]

Hope these help you to help me !!...........



Thanks

 

[JW5681]

Bump

 

[spandy]

Man, looks like either a moisture issue or a heat issue to me. Or the roots for whatever reason have just stopped uptaking.

Have they been like this for any amount of time, or did you just go into your grow space and surprise, they looked like this? I ask because I just wonder if you fed them something that they are reacting to.

Id flush the soil really well and start your feeding schedule back up. What are you feeding them, when and how much?


When you do water, are you giving them a measured amount, or are you making sure to flush it through the medium?

 

[JW5681]

I went into my tent about 2 weeks ago and the plant was just like that and the soil was really dry so I thought it was under watered so I gave it a good water ( its normally about 1.5 litres of water but I water them till there is a tiny amount of run off) and I've been using tap water that I let sit out for a good day or 2 and I add 1ml of biobizz grow and 2ml of bloom per litre. then I checked on it after a day or so and it had perked up then after another 4 or 5 days back to droopy

 

[burgertime2010]

Your problem to me seems root-related. They are most likely damaged or suffering root rot due to a variety of factors. First, lets' talk PH and PPM. These two measurements are essential and when ignored can cause almost every problem imaginable. YOU NEED THESE. There is often a relationship between underwatered plants and root-rot because of the dead roots. They simply cant drink like they used to and a funky root zone develops causing major issues. You might try a root-zone conditioner, Hygrozyme, Hydrogen peroxide diluted a treatment that sterilizes and enzymes to break down and digest dead root material. Dutch masters Zone is a great product for this and it goes a long way, it will sterilize your root-zone and jump start your plant. Take skewers and poke holes gently through your soil medium to increase aeration. While you can....before the plant is any farther along use a foliar feeding of 1/4tsp per quart of epsom salt. This will green you up fast I am guessing without adding anything to your root zone.

 

[JW5681]

Thanks for the info......

If I was to do a foliar feed would it be possible or worthwhile to mix my biobizz grow and bloom with Epsom salts and if so what mixing quantities would be good

thanks

 

[spandy]

then I checked on it after a day or so and it had perked up then after another 4 or 5 days back to droopy

So they were good to go, then they drooped, so you watered/fed them and all was well, then 4-5 days later they were drooping again? Is it possible they are just drying out and need water/fed more often? I water my 3 gal pots every couple days depenidng on their needs.

You should have ample run off, not a little. When you water, you want a good amount of run off each time so you get the entire root zone wet, not just a spot, and water coming out the bottom doesn't mean the soil is wet, soil could be so dry the water just rushing right over it with little absorbtion, pour slowly and get alot of run off til you know who have saturated your soil, imagine what a good rain storm does, be that rain storm each time you water them. Giving them a premeasured amount of water doesn't help move salts and whatnot through the soil, and your soil can become toxic over time as well.

I dont believe you are root bound, but I do believe you either have toxic soil from build up, or your watering schedule is off. Under a 600 watt bulb and plants that size, you could be needing to water every 2-3 days possibly. I've had 3 gallon pots towards the end of flower that I was watering every 12-18 hours because I don't let my pots dry out to the point that the plant suffers. Always moisture in the soil otherwise the plant thinks it's dying and it can stress them, effecting overall performance.

DO you let your body dry out and droop before you get a drink of water?


I have had lock out before where the plant stopped untaking pretty much everything, moisture and all. Soil was wet for days, but the plant wasnt using anything, so on the surface it appeared I was over watering. Flushed her out really well and gave her some nutes and all was well. Soil apparently had alot of build up and the plant wasn't liking it.

 

[JW5681]

Thanks for your advice, this being my first grow its hard to know for sure what I'm doing wrong as its my first time round there is nothing to compare it to !! I think my next step is to flush it well and take it from there. I'll keep you informed !

 

[joe blow greenthumb]

It's under watered. Next time, water as normal then give her about 2 hrs to settle. After that, water real slow until you see runoff. It sounds like she's just using what you give her and I personally would probably be watering a little more. If you're not at full strength nutes yet then up hers a little more than the smaller. The main reason there is probably a difference in size is different phenos.