Life and Death

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3 Pounds of Weeden

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Is death made to be so frightening so life has meaning/importance. Don't misconstrue this, I am a VERY happy human being. But as I get stoned and get to thinking, my mind goes in some weird places. I was pondering that maybe life is just another phase and we attach so much importance on "now". What if after death is when the real fun began? If death wasn't scary life would lose its purpose, and fear is an ascribed emotion, IMO. I really wonder if our consciousness attaches importance to life, notoriety, 1's and 0's, and power just so we don't skip this phase/cycle?
 
oldesthippy

oldesthippy

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i do not fear death they say i died on the way to hospital i love my life and hope to not fine out what is after for a long time
 
eye exaggerate

eye exaggerate

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...if you can make it through a psychological death (ego death), you can live to not worry as much about passing. Think of the meaning in that. "I am afraid to lose my material self." The modern ego has a ton of sht to be attached to / crutches. Strip all of that to the essentials and it is easier to live. Ego 'wants' stuff. Ego builds an entire life for itself based on 'stuff' that 'supports' its existance. When people lose their 'stuff', they tend to respond in ways that are not appropriate for a person who 'has it all'. So if the modern ego is afraid of losing itself, being stripped down to essentials, the fear is equal to that of death because a mind stripped of its ego looks insane. "he / she lost it"

If the life in you is 'you' - your essence, then it follows that ego serves an opposite function. What would that make you while operating purely from the ego? :fire:
 
high|hgih

high|hgih

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Eye is absolutely correct. Givin what he said:

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'Death does not concern us, because as long as we exist, death is not here. And when it does come, we no longer exist.'
 
Dislexicmidget2021

Dislexicmidget2021

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It makes me wonder as to what death really is,I mean yes it is the end of being in this existence.But who knows for absolute that it is the end of all existences,I tend to view death as a transition.Call me crazy but life and death in this existence appears more and more like a dream within a dream,this life is just one of many,make the most of this dream where you can,when U die you wake up in another state of being ,,while i dont expect anyone to agree with this statement,I state that i do not know, yet this reoccurs to me subjectively when I think on this topic.
 
Robfather

Robfather

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Dislexicmidget2021 said:
It makes me wonder as to what death really is,I mean yes it is the end of being in this existence.But who knows for absolute that it is the end of all existences,I tend to view death as a transition.Call me crazy but life and death in this existence appears more and more like a dream within a dream,this life is just one of many,make the most of this dream where you can,when U die you wake up in another state of being ,,while i dont expect anyone to agree with this statement,I state that i do not know, yet this reoccurs to me subjectively when I think on this topic.
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There is no matter without energy. I suspect that we evolve to a different state after death
 
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gioua

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I am ready to go have been for awhile.. (pain kinda makes ya wanna exit early) but it is what it is... I made my peace with this place along time ago.. feel I have gained and shared enough to move on...
Death comes to all of us... the sooner you realize this the less your gonna time you gonna waste worrying about all the small shit in life...
 
Heisenberg

Heisenberg

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I find my death to be a bummer because of so many questions that will go unanswered for me. Knowledge is awesome, and there will be so much knowledge gathered after my death that I wont be privy to. That sucks.

Lets also not forget that our own death is not the one that matters, because as others have pointed out, you will be unaware. However you will be aware of your loved ones dying, and the only cure for that sorrow is if you go first. While I think it is quite easy to come to terms with your own death, I have no idea how to handle the death of my friends and family. I can gain a little comfort from the idea that death is part of the scheme of things, even the universe itself will die, but I doubt that helps to ease the anguish of seeing loved ones lowered into the ground.
 
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gioua

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Heisenberg said:
I find my death to be a bummer because of so many questions that will go unanswered for me. Knowledge is awesome, and there will be so much knowledge gathered after my death that I wont be privy to. That sucks..
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I like to think of life as if we are not 100% fully formed... we go thru life with all these unanswered questions.. We only use 10-15% of our brain power.. because the rest of all our questions get answered once we pass... enabling us to use the full 100%
 
eye exaggerate

eye exaggerate

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Heis - Yeah, I'm not good with other people passing, either. Not much can put that gut-wrenching feeling at ease. Time heals, it's true, but you're left scarred. I don't 'use' my religious portion of myself to try and calm it. But, it does help to see that morning follows the night, etc. The whole idea is way bigger than any of us because not a single one can change it. We have birth and death in common. The middle and the after are up to us, I guess. Study can help things, but the 'problem of mind' is one to conquer in order to face death.

Hmm, tell me about the rabbits, George :)
 
Heisenberg

Heisenberg

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gioua said:
I like to think of life as if we are not 100% fully formed... we go thru life with all these unanswered questions.. We only use 10-15% of our brain power.. because the rest of all our questions get answered once we pass... enabling us to use the full 100%
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Seems kinda strange unless I am not understanding you correctly. In what context are you saying we use 10-15% of our brain power? And I am having trouble understanding how, once the brain is damaged by lack of oxygen and dies, it can run at 100% capacity. Am I taking you too literally?
 
Heisenberg

Heisenberg

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eye exaggerate said:
Heis - Yeah, I'm not good with other people passing, either. Not much can put that gut-wrenching feeling at ease. Time heals, it's true, but you're left scarred. I don't 'use' my religious portion of myself to try and calm it. But, it does help to see that morning follows the night, etc. The whole idea is way bigger than any of us because not a single one can change it. We have birth and death in common. The middle and the after are up to us, I guess. Study can help things, but the 'problem of mind' is one to conquer in order to face death.

Hmm, tell me about the rabbits, George :)
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I too find myself retreating to a more poetic type of mindset to deal with life's cruelties. Death is part of life, and seeing others die is part of the experience of life. I am reminded of the philosophy of Edgler Vess, who thought that the value of experience should not be judged by positive or negative feelings, but rather by how intense the experience is. It would seem the purpose of life is to experience, and nature herself seems quite indifferent to how those experiences make us feel. Life is a means for the universe to experience itself, the full range.
 
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gioua

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Heisenberg said:
Seems kinda strange unless I am not understanding you correctly. In what context are you saying we use 10-15% of our brain power? And I am having trouble understanding how, once the brain is damaged by lack of oxygen and dies, it can run at 100% capacity. Am I taking you too literally?
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the 10% thing is a joke.. but.. (and a myth....) but my point was.. say you have all these unanswered ?'s you want answered... when you die all those ?'s are answered... (this being on the idea you believe in a higher power or plain of existence after death)
 
Zaehet Strife

Zaehet Strife

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3 Pounds of Weeden said:
Do you guys believe there are consequences for our actions? Whether it be an actual creator or karma of some sort?
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I think having to deal with the decisions we make and actions we take psychologically and physically is the only consequence for our actions.

It would be nice if karma existed... but bad things happen to good people and good things happen to bad people every day, all the time. In my opinion, the universe is indifferent to us.
 
Zaehet Strife

Zaehet Strife

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gioua said:
the 10% thing is a joke.. but.. (and a myth....) but my point was.. say you have all these unanswered ?'s you want answered... when you die all those ?'s are answered... (this being on the idea you believe in a higher power or plain of existence after death)
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I always liked to think that when i die i get to meet god and talk to it for as long as i want and ask it anything i have ever wondered, to have all my questions answered... but it's sort of a childlike fantasy.
 
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