Mass shootings, what do they have in common?

[kelly4]

^ I watched his live speech on abc news.

I watched it on FOX news.

I wonder if it was the same speech...LOL!

 

[Saltrock]

I don't know of an "assault-type" gun that isn't a handgun, rifle or shotgun.

And in post 11 you begged the question: you said that you cannot control access without restricting access. From there, you embarked on a flight of unrestrained fancy. Show me a gun for sale in the US on the Internet that can be bought without an FFL holder handling the sale. cn

Ok, when I say assault type gun I mean High capacity guns that the ability to drain a 100 bullets in a min. You know what I am talking about. Unrestrained fancy? It was obviously not hard enough for the Colorado guy to get his guns. What restrained him? A piece of paper online that he had to fill out? As for the newtown shooter his mom was the idiot and she deserved what she got, cause if she were still alive she would deserve the electric chair. For being a "law abiding" gun owner, her actions caused a world a pain for other families. I say if you sell a gun or a gun gets stolen and you don't notify the proper authorities and that gun is involved in a crime you should be held accountable.

Peace
Salt

 

[Saltrock]

The news only sensationalizes multiple homicides that tug at people's emotions. IE old people, children, babies. People get shot in ones and twos and they only get a 10 second mention in the news.

The rare and unusual gain so much hype and attention that the uninformed masses FREAK OUT! "OMG what is the deal with guns all the sudden? We need to do something!" Retards.

Then the president jumps in and says "No law will prevent the rare individual from doing evil, but here is a 20 point law that we should push through anyways. Just in case." Smirk.

More guns less regulation is the answer, right?

Peace
Salt

 

[Saltrock]

The school killer didn't buy the guns himself.. GAWD.

His mother bought the guns. He killed her.

She sounded like a responsible law abiding gun owner to me.

Peace
Salt

 

[Flaming Pie]

More guns less regulation is the answer, right?

Peace
Salt

If the people in their respective states want stricter gun laws, let them vote for it on a state level.

The federal government has no business being involved. They can't even keep a budget.

 

[Flaming Pie]

She sounded like a responsible law abiding gun owner to me.

Peace
Salt

At the sale of a gun, WTH kind of database could possible check the "responsibility" of a gun owner.

By that logic, we could argue that pregnant women must under go a "responsibilty" background check to see if she is worthy of keeping the baby. If she fails, she is forced to abort the baby.

Really, your arguments are moronic.

How is the federal government going to ensure the "integrity" of each citizen?

 

[mr2shim]

If the people in their respective states want stricter gun laws, let them vote for it on a state level.

The federal government has no business being involved. They can't even keep a budget.

It's funny how people run to the federal govt when they want something but otherwise they want them out of their lives.

 

[kelly4]

It's funny how people run to the federal govt when they want something but otherwise they want them out of their lives.

That includes state governments.

 

[Saltrock]

A freaking database for legal gun owners who aren't criminals ..what a joke !

How about a database for criminals so we can draw up a map
of where they live so we can choose not to live near them or arm ourselves against them.

I rather take the occasional mass shooting (Rather not it happen of course ) than the rampant shootings that go on everyday in this country.But it's too politically incorrect to talk about these everyday shooting. Being that this will never be addressed I want to be able to protect myself from the criminals who commit more murders in one month than every mass shooter put together.

BAD GUYS DON'T OBEY LAWS AND THAT INCLUDES GUN LAWS SO THESE LAWS ONLY HURT THE GOOD GUY !

So you are saying every law abiding citizen would never sell a gun that might end up in a crime? How can we hold anybody accountable if we just have guns unregistered and unregulated. It is one thing to have daily shootings through out the country, those have seem to be expected and accepted in a gun dominate society. What isn't expected and isn't acceptable is a gunman with fairly easy access to guns and ammo can go into a classroom, shopping mall, movie theater or campus and be able to unload mass amounts of bullets in a matter of minutes.

Peace
Salt

 

[Flaming Pie]

It's funny how people run to the federal govt when they want something but otherwise they want them out of their lives.

The federal government needs to keep to its intended purpose. Military, borders, highways, foreign relations, all within the budget. They can't even get the basics done efficiently.

 

[ChesusRice]

I know a good starting point

If there is a next time one of these mass shootings occur

Stop mentioning the guys name. Use euphinisms like "pile of crap" or "demented dumbass"
Stop gloryfying these guys by making them infamous.

Columbine wasnt the first school shooting that happened that year it was the fourth and the difference between the 3 before it was They concentrated on the victims more than the perpetrators

 

[Saltrock]

If the people in their respective states want stricter gun laws, let them vote for it on a state level.

The federal government has no business being involved. They can't even keep a budget.

How can you do it state by state , if the states next to you have super laxed gun laws then all you have to do is go to the next state and buy guns yourself or find someone who lives in that state to buy you the guns. That is why it has to be a law on the national level.

Peace
Salt

 

[Flaming Pie]

How can you do it state by state , if the states next to you have super laxed gun laws then all you have to do is go to the next state and buy guns yourself or find someone who lives in that state to buy you the guns. That is why it has to be a law on the national level.

Peace
Salt

You have to be a resident of the state to buy a gun in that state. The most lax states still require valid ID.

 

[RainerRocks]

So you are saying every law abiding citizen would never sell a gun that might end up in a crime? How can we hold anybody accountable if we just have guns unregistered and unregulated. It is one thing to have daily shootings through out the country, those have seem to be expected and accepted in a gun dominate society. What isn't expected and isn't acceptable is a gunman with fairly easy access to guns and ammo can go into a classroom, shopping mall, movie theater or campus and be able to unload mass amounts of bullets in a matter of minutes.

Peace
Salt

That's not what I'm saying..It's the irony of the whole database thing being published.

I'm all for gun owners to register and have a criminal background check.

What I'm saying is the media thinks it's OK to take that database and make a map
of who owns guns with their names and address when these people are law abiding citizens..you know why
they are law abiding because they follow the rules and now are made out to be the bad guys when they are not !

Make a database of the people who commit crimes and post all their personal info on a map for the world to see.

Don't you see how backwards this is that they crucified the law abiding people with this database and
not the criminals....Seriously ?

The only good thing about the new NY gun laws they made it illegal to make this database public..I guess
the lib anti gun politicians and the famous libs pushed hard for this little bit in the bill that's why it went thru. Funny how the anti gun people are OK with this part .You know why..because even they don't want their names made public to keep the media from posting their personal info...bunch of hypocrites when it comes to their own safety.


The Media is Barking up the Wrong Tree !

 

[Saltrock]

Going to work ttygl.

Peace
Salt

 

[mr2shim]

The federal government needs to keep to its intended purpose. Military, borders, highways, foreign relations, all within the budget. They can't even get the basics done efficiently.

Yep, they have their dirty little hands in everything. If the Fed. Govt. is involved in something you know it isn't going to end well.

 

[cannabineer]

Ok, when I say assault type gun I mean High capacity guns that the ability to drain a 100 bullets in a min. You know what I am talking about. Unrestrained fancy? It was obviously not hard enough for the Colorado guy to get his guns. What restrained him? A piece of paper online that he had to fill out? As for the newtown shooter his mom was the idiot and she deserved what she got, cause if she were still alive she would deserve the electric chair. For being a "law abiding" gun owner, her actions caused a world a pain for other families. I say if you sell a gun or a gun gets stolen and you don't notify the proper authorities and that gun is involved in a crime you should be held accountable.

Peace
Salt

I am not aware of many guns that fulfill the fanciful criteria of your first sentence. There are many guns I cannot buy in my home state because our local brands of commie have adjudicated them Assault Weapons a term without meaning ... and not one of them could fire 100 rounds a minute. Still they're not legally available to me.
And the rest of your post confirms my read that you think that controlling access controls the issue. The Breivik/Norway event disproves that imo. Just say No to the Ratchet. cn

Finally, if a gun gets stolen or lost , and you want to punish the previous owner of record for that: why?? The only rationale I can see for that is to impose a registry. That puts far too much power into the hands of the center. Jmo. cn

 

[NLXSK1]

I am not aware of many guns that fulfill the fanciful criteria of your first sentence. There are many guns I cannot buy in my home state because our local brands of commie have adjudicated them Assault Weapons a term without meaning ... and not one of them could fire 100 rounds a minute. Still they're not legally available to me.
And the rest of your post confirms my read that you think that controlling access controls the issue. The Breivik/Norway event disproves that imo. Just say No to the Ratchet. cn

Finally, if a gun gets stolen or lost , and you want to punish the previous owner of record for that: why?? The only rationale I can see for that is to impose a registry. That puts far too much power into the hands of the center. Jmo. cn

I am going to go conspiracy theory here...

The government knows they are financially fucked. They have no intention on stopping the spending and/or slide into a currency crash of unparalleled size.

The people out there that have been duped and handed a check for so long will have no recourse once the checks stop showing up. And they are not going to go after the 1%, they are going to go after the very government offices that once provided their dole.

Therefore, the government needs to remove as many weapons as possible from society before the riots begin..

 

[ChesusRice]

I am not aware of many guns that fulfill the fanciful criteria of your first sentence. There are many guns I cannot buy in my home state because our local brands of commie have adjudicated them Assault Weapons a term without meaning ... and not one of them could fire 100 rounds a minute. Still they're not legally available to me.
And the rest of your post confirms my read that you think that controlling access controls the issue. The Breivik/Norway event disproves that imo. Just say No to the Ratchet. cn

Finally, if a gun gets stolen or lost , and you want to punish the previous owner of record for that: why?? The only rationale I can see for that is to impose a registry. That puts far too much power into the hands of the center. Jmo. cn

Assault rifle definition is pretty simple


Any rifle that was designed with the purpose of killing another human being

 

[NLXSK1]

I know a good starting point

If there is a next time one of these mass shootings occur

Stop mentioning the guys name. Use euphinisms like "pile of crap" or "demented dumbass"
Stop gloryfying these guys by making them infamous.

Columbine wasnt the first school shooting that happened that year it was the fourth and the difference between the 3 before it was They concentrated on the victims more than the perpetrators

I dont remember the last time a criminal said he committed the crimes to be famous.