Why didn't other species evolve intelectually like we did?

gioua

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Really just depends on your criteria for making a "big leap". Humans aren't that great from a survival standpoint - we aren't super abundant, hard to kill, ect. It's easy to be impressed by humans as humans, but if a major event happened (nuke, meteor, ect), we probably wouldn't fair much better than dinosaurs. Hell, 1500 years ago we were dieing to FLEAS, and our biggest predator now is the MOSQUITO -- thats pretty fucking lame.

A lot of what we do is also heavily dependent on fossil fuels - stuff like electricity and space travel and mining and machines probably wouldn't be around unless we had a few million years worth of shit to burn.
But Humans have the ability to protect themselves from the virus's and diseases that are here. We are becoming smarter in the since of gaining knowledge on what may or may not wipe out our species.. apes and what not.. cant

go back in time about 65 years and say we have not made a big leap.

humans survive and adapt to things rather quickly.

but then again we are smart about SOME things and well.. not so smart on others...

in the 1804 Nicolas Appert invented "canned foods" but it was not till about 50 years later they decided to invent a can opener. SO for 50 years people used knives-chisles guns.. etc..
 

gioua

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there's a theory that man followed the coast in his movements, where shellfish was easily obtained in great quantity, full of omega 3's for great brain development.
Theory also pertains to the eating of more cooked meat (protein)
 

gioua

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Well, theres 6 billion humans, but like 18 billion chickens, with insect numbers in the trillions and bacteria numbers beyond comprehension.

So yeah, humans aren't really abundant, unless you are comparing them to other large mammals.

which Humans are... so the comparison is equivalent to blades of grass or pieces of sand.


We are over abundant when we begin depleting our resources
 

tibberous

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But Humans have the ability to protect themselves from the virus's and diseases that are here
Yeah, it's called an immune system - lots of stuff has one :P

But yeah, I know what you meant. Our recent progress is basically all communal - ONE in 6 billion people invents the can opener, and yet I not only know what one is, I can get one for virtually no resources without ever having to build one. It might just be the humans were the first to hit the point where survival of the whole and survival of the fittest have come together.

Since evolution generally happens over millions of years, and we've basically taken over the planet in a few thousand, it kind of makes sense nothing has evolved to match us. Maybe in 500,000 years another species would have evolved like us, but since we evolved first, they probably never will.

And since we've really only been around a few thousand years, there is also the chance that super-intelligence is NOT a good design. Think about it, intelligence lets you do things like build nukes, create pollution, spike the co2 level of the planet, ect. Know why crocodiles have been around for a million+ years? Because they don't know how to build nuclear weapons! It's weird to think about, but having too good of attributes can actually hurt a species chance of survival.
 

gioua

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^agreed the smart we get.. the more destruction we can cause.

"But Humans have the ability to protect themselves from the virus's and diseases that are here" was meaning Humans have the ability to make antibiotics, antivirus and the knowledge of what causes them... lotsa stuff does not have that..

tho I would love to see a few monkeys in a lab... hell just for comedic effect :)
 

tibberous

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We are over abundant when we begin depleting our resources
There are still a LOT of resources - you just can't look at them in terms of our current technologies. If you told someone in the 1500's that 8 million people would live in a 20 mile area, they'd never believe it, they'd never believe that they would fit, or that they wouldn't starve.

When the planet is built 400 layers high and our uranium is gone and our space sails aren't large enough to power our algae farms and are super computers prove cold fusion is impossible... maybe then it'll be time to start passing out condoms :)
 

gioua

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There are still a LOT of resources -

Not water
please explain how we come up with fresh water in places we dont currently have an "abundance" of? and then explain WHY we have not done it.
Desalinization too expensive currently.. Currently 61% of the US is considered in a drought
 

tibberous

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Not water
please explain how we come up with fresh water in places we dont currently have an "abundance" of? and then explain WHY we have not done it.
Desalinization too expensive currently.. Currently 61% of the US is considered in a drought
"Too expensive" is completely relative to what you need the water for. What I'm thinking you mean is "too expensive to farm with and make a decent profit" or maybe "too expensive for Africans with no money to get people to ship to them"

But water the whole "running out of water" thing is a myth - if a water shortage was bad enough, food prices would spike, and people would move / clean / do whatever to get water. Keep in mind that, whoever controls a resource, is benefited by you believing it's scare - the output of damn near everything is metered to maximize profits.
 

mindphuk

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That analogy doesn't work, dog is a domesticated wolf...they ate not wearing clothes or driving vehicles
Actually a domesticated wolf is still a wolf. Dogs have evolved into a distinct species. What the hell does wearing clothes, driving cars or ANY other technology have to do with biological evolution? Are you trying to claim that the first homonids were not actually evolved because they didn't have technology yet?

Would you like to learn something about human evolution? I would be happy to explain some things to you but it seems you are more content in trying to poke holes in it, even though you have very little actual understanding.
 

Dislexicmidget2021

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Well, think about it we are essentially a product of two lower species before homosapien,we have the neanderthal and the cro-magnon.Two very much different species of homo erectus,practical polar opposites who started mating.You get all new traits in a cross breed such as ours,instead of either going more cro-magnon or more neanderthal we are a balance of both yet we have unprecedented capacity for creating and building that neither one ever possesed so intricately as ours has shown.Take into account that the capacity for making structures,tools and overall way of thinking had remained the same for thousands of years as either neanderthal or cro-magnon,they were in a virtual rut so to speak.When the cross breeding had been occuring for a time we slowly started becoming more in number as the new species arising in the land with this new set of capacity's waiting to unfold and flourish over time.Slowly but surely the cro magnons and neanderthals became fewer in number as a result of the line of genetics changing from this crossing and became for the most part extinct,at leaste it seems evident as such.Im not totaly sure but as far as I understand no other species on our planet evolved as a result of two more primitive species of its genetic makeup amalgumated in the way ours did,its been more so environmental adaptation with other animals right?I could be off base though.
 

Corso312

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A dog is nearly identical to a wolf in looks,genetic makeup and behavior...apes are light years behind humans...that technology that you scoff at...humans invented ...while apes are still throwing feces at each other and living in trees...what's hard to understand?
 

gioua

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I thought you lost protein when meat is cooked, not gained.

meat will lose protein once cooked however I think the theory had to do with them being able to carry cooked meat for longer days as per raw which went rancid quicker...
 

brimck325

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hence the shellfish and omega 3's. its impossible that man domesticated the wolf into the dog. its been proven corso, i'm not trying to be a dick. the shellfish is complete theory though.
 
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