Chocolope or Chocolate Rain?
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hazey grapes
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no experience, but blueberry doesn't exactly sound like the best start for a chocolate strain, and rain is 1/2 chocolope anyways. i trust DNA gear, and just bought a chocolope fem myself as they're 3 out of 3 with top to bottom quality with the sweet haze, lemon skunk and sour creams i've tried. it also sounds like chocolope should be less stony and closer to chocolate thai which is another advantage, but a lot of people love chocolate rain and sannies does have a solid rep too.
why not get both and compare them directly? you can get single chocolopes on the cheap, and seeing the two compared would be cool. then there's the couple other breeders with strains like coffee ryder.
why not get both and compare them directly? you can get single chocolopes on the cheap, and seeing the two compared would be cool. then there's the couple other breeders with strains like coffee ryder.
Single seed lowers chances of finding the nice pheno, I would think.
racerboy71
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i grew chocolate rain and loved it.. super stunky to say the least.. very nice yields as well as a sativa dom high from it..
never grow plain old chocolope, but i've seen tons of grows on it and everyone seems to love it as well.. i have a few beans of it, just haven't cracked them yet..
i am however growing 2 chocolope kush from dna atm, but they're pretty small still and don't have much info to offer up..
never grow plain old chocolope, but i've seen tons of grows on it and everyone seems to love it as well.. i have a few beans of it, just haven't cracked them yet..
i am however growing 2 chocolope kush from dna atm, but they're pretty small still and don't have much info to offer up..
I had a Chocolope parent to my KK strain i have had for the past 3 years. The mellowness of the Choc. really is awesome and thats why i keep one on hand at all times.
hazey grapes
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i'm still not sold on pheno obsession. out of my 5 C99s, both the tall and short gals all tasted and smoked about the same as have multiple thai skunks, jack's cleaner 2s and even the 3 wildly different color phenos of masterkush autos. i've yet to encounter a pheno that either sucks or rises above it's siblings significantly yet, but do believe that there are more radical differences than i've experienced so far.
i don't worry about DNA phenos at all as i've tried 3 fems by them so far, sweet haze (in my top three at WORST) along with lemon skunk and sour cream and all three were way above average in every way in buzz, flavor and in the case of golden glowing lemon skunk, even color. they chose very special mothers to self.
i see nothing wrong with phenos though as some really seem to hate pheno variety too and demand 100% stable strains, but if you're getting pheno variation, you should also be getting hybrid vigor freebies. i would think that with fems in general you'd get the least pheno variation as all of the genes come from the same plant as opposed to shuffling genes between two parents.
if you want to select a "best keeper", you could always just buy more fems too.
my philosophy is that if you start with the most awesome parents to begin with, you should get awesome offspring no matter what phenos are expressed. there has to be a reason some breeders have gear that awesome while others have generic watered down schwag... better parent selection, and it's just as important to chose good males as females.
4i've yet to be anything less than impressed by anything i've tried by DNA yet. even if the stony euphoric buzz of sour cream puts it in league with skunk #1, blueberry and masterkush, it's delicious flavor blows all three away by a mile for me making it exceptional in the taste department. i'm having a hard timecoming to terms with it being a sour diesel cross though as i don't remember any kind of diesel flavor, just an authentic cream cheese with hints of fruity yoghurt that was amazing.
whatever priorities you go with and buy from, i hope you find exactly what you're looking for.
i don't worry about DNA phenos at all as i've tried 3 fems by them so far, sweet haze (in my top three at WORST) along with lemon skunk and sour cream and all three were way above average in every way in buzz, flavor and in the case of golden glowing lemon skunk, even color. they chose very special mothers to self.
i see nothing wrong with phenos though as some really seem to hate pheno variety too and demand 100% stable strains, but if you're getting pheno variation, you should also be getting hybrid vigor freebies. i would think that with fems in general you'd get the least pheno variation as all of the genes come from the same plant as opposed to shuffling genes between two parents.
if you want to select a "best keeper", you could always just buy more fems too.
my philosophy is that if you start with the most awesome parents to begin with, you should get awesome offspring no matter what phenos are expressed. there has to be a reason some breeders have gear that awesome while others have generic watered down schwag... better parent selection, and it's just as important to chose good males as females.
4i've yet to be anything less than impressed by anything i've tried by DNA yet. even if the stony euphoric buzz of sour cream puts it in league with skunk #1, blueberry and masterkush, it's delicious flavor blows all three away by a mile for me making it exceptional in the taste department. i'm having a hard timecoming to terms with it being a sour diesel cross though as i don't remember any kind of diesel flavor, just an authentic cream cheese with hints of fruity yoghurt that was amazing.
whatever priorities you go with and buy from, i hope you find exactly what you're looking for.
Chillintxstlye
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I'm runnin w choco rain now and it's bomb!
Kite High
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figured it would be...sannie and crew are solid and true to the Ummph degree
OGEvilgenius
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Actually, I'm pretty sure the most vigor (on average) tends to come from true F1's. Vigor is variable in strains that aren't stable.
True F1's offer minimal variation. You don't see that many of them these days.
Clankie
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Either one will be sure to please. I love me some chocolope, I've got a chocolate thai dom that I've been meaning to run again for a while. I've also got some Holy Princess from e$co and some sour diesel (riri cut) x blueberry sativa from him as well and they are both looking great. If you have any desire for an indica leaning lady, you'd be more likely to find her in the chocolate rain.
As far as pheno variation and cindy 99 goes, of course the phenos are similar. That was a multiple generation backcross.
As far as pheno variation and cindy 99 goes, of course the phenos are similar. That was a multiple generation backcross.
Chillintxstlye
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I've got 2 pheno with choco rain one is pure chocolate tasting and the other is a fruity baby poop but both outstanding smoke.
. How chocolatey is da chocolope?
Rising Moon
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Sounds good!
Years and years ago... I would have never thought smells like fruity baby poop, skunk, fuel, rotten fruits would peak my interest so much...lol. Gotta love the DANK.
Years and years ago... I would have never thought smells like fruity baby poop, skunk, fuel, rotten fruits would peak my interest so much...lol. Gotta love the DANK.
Jimmyjonestoo
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Havnt run either but chocolope is on my wish list for me next order.
silverhazefiend
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I've been asking this same question to myself for days ..I keep saying I'm not gonna buy seeds but I can't stop my brain ponders a question next thing u kno I'm adding + looking for coupons ..it's a addiction lol
But anywho I have some questions and it would really help me + others asking the same thing
1.which one actually TASTE like chocolate ..and I mean straight up Hershey chocolate
2.potency..some people say the high on the rain isn't overpoweful and more Stoney
I'm GONNA find that chocolate flavor this yr hopefully and I'm collecting the strains now ..I made a list of chocolate strains
1.chocolope-have
2.c.rain-have
3cocoa kush-136 dollars a pack ?? Smh ..this is the one I'm after ..I might buy it on the tudes next promo ..unless somebody sees it cheaper LMK
4.choclate trip-made by Dutch flowers ..out of commission ..but still the mom is used is a few crosses today ..hazemen dropped a few packs with this but there sold out called coco puffs ..anybody kno where I can find a pack LMK
5.headtrip-bodhi seeds ..this one is a toss up bc I don't want any crosses jus pure chocolate and this is crossed with choco trip x snow lotus ..but it's great priced and the breeder is top notch ..buying a pack of hazemen + bodhi ..is cheaper than dj short ..but I think if I want chocolate the cocoa kush is what I should grab next ..
If u see something I post it up
But anywho I have some questions and it would really help me + others asking the same thing
1.which one actually TASTE like chocolate ..and I mean straight up Hershey chocolate
2.potency..some people say the high on the rain isn't overpoweful and more Stoney
I'm GONNA find that chocolate flavor this yr hopefully and I'm collecting the strains now ..I made a list of chocolate strains
1.chocolope-have
2.c.rain-have
3cocoa kush-136 dollars a pack ?? Smh ..this is the one I'm after ..I might buy it on the tudes next promo ..unless somebody sees it cheaper LMK
4.choclate trip-made by Dutch flowers ..out of commission ..but still the mom is used is a few crosses today ..hazemen dropped a few packs with this but there sold out called coco puffs ..anybody kno where I can find a pack LMK
5.headtrip-bodhi seeds ..this one is a toss up bc I don't want any crosses jus pure chocolate and this is crossed with choco trip x snow lotus ..but it's great priced and the breeder is top notch ..buying a pack of hazemen + bodhi ..is cheaper than dj short ..but I think if I want chocolate the cocoa kush is what I should grab next ..
If u see something I post it up
hazey grapes
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when you stabilize a strain, you bottleneck it's genes and eventually will get fatal recessive gene mutations. you get hybrid vigor from mixing new genes into a pool. that's the whole point of sexual reproduction, to re-shuffle genetics.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/hybrid+vigor
contrary to popular belief, i don't just make shit up
Bigtacofarmer
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Once plants are mature, dried and cured. Phenotype selection is actually very important. I have never smoked my flowers halfway done but I can see why phenos would not matter to you Hazey.