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see4

see4

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jtprin said:
I don't even need to watch the rest to know it's flawed, I can tell by one of the first few examples. He says "I wouldn't be surprised if.... happens". That's not guaranteeing it as fact, it's simply a comment.

Look, I'm not saying Alex Jones has never made a false claim, everyone makes mistakes. I'm saying he has made a lot of correct claims.
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You are beyond help my mental midget friend. I presented you with FACTS and you refuse to acknowledge them. You won nothing, no debate took place. In order for a debate to occur, more than 1 individual needs to acknowledge and agree upon a premise, something of which you could not ascertain.

Combine that with mom jokes and "I won" and "hey everybody look at me!", its clear the type of person we are dealing with here. Lets agree to disagree. Bad troll is bad.
 
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jtprin

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LOL oh my goodness.... that wasn't even a mom joke. i don't need anyone's approval, i was just putting it on record that you got your ass handed to you. anyone with a brain can see that.

okay.. nnnnow im done.
 
kinetic

kinetic

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jprin, I notice you're against flouride. Should I stop drinking my green tea because it has flouride in it? For me the benefits of ecgc outweigh any flouride that may occur naturally.
 
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jtprin

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kinetic said:
jprin, I notice you're against flouride. Should I stop drinking my green tea because it has flouride in it? For me the benefits of ecgc outweigh any flouride that may occur naturally.
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I have no idea how much flouride is in whatever brand of green tea you're drinking. I'm sure if it's under a certain ppm it's not going to be harmful, and there are different kinds of flourides, but I do know that flouride, and it doesn't take a lot of it, has many detrimental effects.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/08/14/fluoride-effects-in-children.aspx - Harvard study confirms flouride causes reduced IQ in children.

http://www.historyofwaterfilters.com/fluoride-2.html
 
see4

see4

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jtprin said:
LOL oh my goodness.... that wasn't even a mom joke. i don't need anyone's approval, i was just putting it on record that you got your ass handed to you. anyone with a brain can see that.

okay.. nnnnow im done.
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ok kid. you win. allow me to present you with a medal. or perhaps a chest to pin it on?

bad troll is bad.

obviously your can not comprehend how a debate works. allow me to try and sum it up for you.

in order for a debate to exist, one must create a premise, an argument if you will. am i to assume your argument is that the government is bad and everything that has happened in the past decade is one giant conspiracy for our government to take away our guns? Is that about right? I then ask you to present facts that support this claim. You cited sources of dubious credibility, (would you like for me to explain what dubious means?) of which I asked for more factual information, not opinionated, and you did not provide. Your counterargument to my request for supporting facts was to name call and begin to talk in circles. You then ask me to provide facts to counter your claim. I provided said facts. You chose to ignore the information I provided you and again, began talking in circles. And again, you resort to name calling, concluding with a statement of victory, for which no engagement actually occurred.

Now, if you would like to actually have a civil debate. I would be glad to entertain. Ball is in your court jtprin. Let's see what you do with it.

(Please only try to focus on the last three sentences. That is the heart of my point.)
 
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jtprin

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see4 said:
ok kid. you win. allow me to present you with a medal. or perhaps a chest to pin it on?

bad troll is bad.

obviously your can not comprehend how a debate works. allow me to try and sum it up for you.

in order for a debate to exist, one must create a premise, an argument if you will. am i to assume your argument is that the government is bad and everything that has happened in the past decade is one giant conspiracy for our government to take away our guns? Is that about right? I then ask you to present facts that support this claim. You cited sources of dubious credibility, (would you like for me to explain what dubious means?) of which I asked for more factual information, not opinionated, and you did not provide. Your counterargument to my request for supporting facts was to name call and begin to talk in circles. You then ask me to provide facts to counter your claim. I provided said facts. You chose to ignore the information I provided you and again, began talking in circles. And again, you resort to name calling, concluding with a statement of victory, for which not engagement actually occurred.

Now, if you would like to actually have a civil debate. I would be glad to entertain. Ball is in your court jtprin. Let's see what you do with it.

(Please only try to focus on the last three sentences. That is the heart of my point.)
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I already handled business against you and dominated you. All you do is retort with insults. I've given you plenty of links and evidence and everytime you reply with insults and never disprove my evidence. I won, you lost. End of story. Nothing you say in any future posts will change this. CYA
 
see4

see4

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jtprin said:
I already handled business against you and dominated you. All you do is retort with insults. I've given you plenty of links and evidence and everytime you reply with insults and never disprove my evidence. I won, you lost. End of story. Nothing you say in any future posts will change this. CYA
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Your claims are opinionated and baseless. Everything you have said is a regurgitation of Alex Jones, who 90% of the planet thinks is a fucking loon. So if you would like to think you dominated me in a debate with yourself, then I will give that to you. You dominated me, oh powerful debater! Now go run along and swallow more of what Alex Jones will give you.

Your links you provide are to OPINION articles and are baseless or supported by people with an agenda. You are a fool to not see this. Nothing more can be said.

So you go right on ahead and be like Alex Jones. Soon enough people will get bored with you just like they did with Glenn Beck and Ron Paul. How much of the vote did Ron Paul get this time? I forgot.
 
see4

see4

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This is an interesting thing -- When I hear his fans (jtprin) concede, saying stuff like "he does exaggerate" or "he's right sometimes".
When I hear that, I imagine someone drinking from sewer pipe, because there IS water among the sludge, while there's a tap with clean water right next to them.
 
guy incognito

guy incognito

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jtprin said:
Failed attempt at a coorelation. Obviously, bigfoot has no evidence other than bogus eyewitness accounts. Anytime I hear anything from anywhere, I double and triple the sources. Alex Jones is just the main voice. If you want to deny the plethora of studies proving GMO's, aspartame, MSG, etc.. then do so. Why does the government put mercury, aluminum, MSG, and formaldehyde in vaccines? And people wonder why neurological disorders like ADHD are skyrocketing over the past few decades.

http://www.naturalnews.com/035431_vaccine_ingredients_side_effects_MSG.html
(ALL sources at end of article)
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Oh shit, not sodium chloride! They have sodium chloride in vaccines?! They even tell just how bad this evil chemical is:

• Sodium chloride: Raises blood pressure and inhibits muscle contraction and growth.

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/035431_vaccine_ingredients_side_effects_MSG.html#ixzz2IuCIqEU2

The title of the article is "The 11 most toxic vaccine ingredients and their side effect"

For those of you that aren't aware sodium chloride is basic table salt. Yes too much can kill you, or be very bad for your health. Your body needs it though and you would die without it. You are recommended to consume up to 2.3g of salt per day. The fact that they are listing table salt, in extremely small and extremely safe quantities, as one of the most 11 toxic vaccine ingredients should tell you something. Can you say fear mongering? And praying on ignorant people?

What about formaldehyde?

You have more formaldehyde in your body now that you will ever get from vaccines. Why? Because your body produces it. That's right, as a part of normal human metabolism you are constantly making formaldehyde. Do you eat food? An apple contains 1-6 mg of formaldehyde, while a vaccine contains a maximum of 0.1mg. That's right, every apple you eat contains 10 to 60 times the maximum quantity of formaldehyde you will ever receive from a vaccine. I ingest more formaldehyde from my morning fruit consumption that you will receive in a lifetime of vaccinations.

The rest of the toxins can also be dismissed as fear mongering with even a slight amount of research.


I also tried out the so called sources in the article. The first source in the article is a dead link. The first source at the end of the article is to another article on the same site. The second source is to vaxtruth.org. This is the first 2 sentences from the "source" vactruth.org:

"I have an eleven year-old daughter who is about to start middle school in Indiana. She will not be vaccinated because we believe that God created her immune system perfectly and we also believe that to artificially manipulate the immune system that God created is against His will."

No I did not make that up, seriously, go check it out: http://vaxtruth.org/2011/08/vaccine-ingredients-children-as-guinea-pigs-religious-exemptions/

Seriously, THAT is being used as a source for the original article. An article written by someone that literally believes god created their childs immune system perfectly.

Unbelievable.

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ThE sAtIvA hIgH

ThE sAtIvA hIgH

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drolove said:
well i live in probably the best place in the US to be when the shit hits the fan. im thankful for that. sure glad to have that 18,000 rounds of 7.62 and 11,000 rounds of 5.56 not to forget all the .40, .45, and 5.7 ammo i have as well :fire:
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that wont last long against a million chinese soldiers , and probally another million korean
 
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jtprin

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guy incognito said:
Oh shit, not sodium chloride! They have sodium chloride in vaccines?! They even tell just how bad this evil chemical is:

• Sodium chloride: Raises blood pressure and inhibits muscle contraction and growth.

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/035431_vaccine_ingredients_side_effects_MSG.html#ixzz2IuCIqEU2

The title of the article is "The 11 most toxic vaccine ingredients and their side effect"

For those of you that aren't aware sodium chloride is basic table salt. Yes too much can kill you, or be very bad for your health. Your body needs it though and you would die without it. You are recommended to consume up to 2.3g of salt per day. The fact that they are listing table salt, in extremely small and extremely safe quantities, as one of the most 11 toxic vaccine ingredients should tell you something. Can you say fear mongering? And praying on ignorant people?

What about formaldehyde?

You have more formaldehyde in your body now that you will ever get from vaccines. Why? Because your body produces it. That's right, as a part of normal human metabolism you are constantly making formaldehyde. Do you eat food? An apple contains 1-6 mg of formaldehyde, while a vaccine contains a maximum of 0.1mg. That's right, every apple you eat contains 10 to 60 times the maximum quantity of formaldehyde you will ever receive from a vaccine. I ingest more formaldehyde from my morning fruit consumption that you will receive in a lifetime of vaccinations.

The rest of the toxins can also be dismissed as fear mongering with even a slight amount of research.


I also tried out the so called sources in the article. The first source in the article is a dead link. The first source at the end of the article is to another article on the same site. The second source is to vaxtruth.org. This is the first 2 sentences from the "source" vactruth.org:

"I have an eleven year-old daughter who is about to start middle school in Indiana. She will not be vaccinated because we believe that God created her immune system perfectly and we also believe that to artificially manipulate the immune system that God created is against His will."

No I did not make that up, seriously, go check it out: http://vaxtruth.org/2011/08/vaccine-ingredients-children-as-guinea-pigs-religious-exemptions/

Seriously, THAT is being used as a source for the original article. An article written by someone that literally believes god created their childs immune system perfectly.

Unbelievable.

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http://gaia-health.com/gaia-blog/2013-01-13/medical-childrens-psych-journal-wont-retract-fraudulent-paxil-study/

http://www.naturalnews.com/037653_vaccine_additives_thimerosal_formaldehyde.html - Click on the links in the paragraphs for sources, not just at the end of the article. They also put aluminum, MSG, and mercury in vaccines and claim it helps the vaccines work better. They are putting NEUROTOXINS in childrens vaccines. Gee, I wonder why so many children have psychological issues nowadays and problems learning. Combine that with kids chugging down tap water filled with flouride and the fact that every human reaction is a "disease" nowadays that requires prescription medication. Medication that damages their brain.

For example, http://ntp.niehs.nih.gov/?objectid=03C9AF75-E1BF-FF40-DBA9EC0928DF8B15 was a link in the article. They even admit formaldehyde causes cancer, just open up the documents.
 
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jtprin

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http://naturalsociety.com/your-drinking-water-may-be-lowering-your-iq-giving-you-cancer/ (sources are on bottom)


Flouride linked to #1 cause of death. It accumulates in your body over time.
http://naturalsociety.com/breaking-fluoride-linked-to-1-cause-of-death-in-new-research/

Sources in article: http://www.cbwinfo.com/Chemical/Precursors/p42.html
http://www.greenmedinfo.com/article/there-association-vascular-fluoride-uptake-vascular-calcification-and-coronary-artery
http://www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/01/07/fluoride.recommendations/index.html - Even the government admits levels of flouride should be lowered.

http://naturalsociety.com/cancer-linked-fluoride-doesnt-even-effectively-prevent-cavities/ - And on top of that, flouride does NOT prevent cavities.

Sources from article: http://www.fluoridealert.org/articles/absurdity/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ClqK7XvfLg0 - Video of doctor admitting it flouride causes cancer.
 
Monkeymonk840

Monkeymonk840

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Wow. Looks like The assult rifle ban has a reason for it. Better buy food too. That would be the weak link in the chain. Plenty of guns and plenty of ppl willing to use them but too many ppl depend on the supermarket for food that starving the ppl who revolt would crush them. Fima has camps set up too for these types. This is all to f'd up for me though. And scary.
 
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