Monsanto cannabis yes or no? The DNA Protection Act of 2013

[DiverseSanctuary]

specious claims about "men cant tell if a cow is pregnant" has nothing to do with your even more specious claims of gmo's causing false pregnancies in cows.

Which proves that 100% of the time you are wrong!!!!!! Do you get that science?

once again dr. Asking questions isn't making claims. Your the one making all the claims here.

 

[Ninjabowler]

a link it seems was ignored completely. Go figure!!!

These guys have their own adgenda, they dont want proof, they just want to go on saying everything is false, GMO food is totally normal in every way. But it cant be and it isnt. Theres no middle ground here, either its better or its worse.

 

[DiverseSanctuary]

the best evidence in the world.

i have eaten GMO's and am not dead.

i even ate a couple Flav 'R' Savr tomatoes with no ill effects. sure they were crap, but they were only slightly crappier than the sshit commercail tomatoes that spend 4 weeks in a refigerated truck to get to the "ripening house" where they are bathed in alene gas to make them look like they are edible.

so yeah.
GMO's are SAFE for the eater.

THIS IS THE BIGGEST BUNCH OF BULLSHI# HERE IN THIS THREAD. FROM A MAN WHO HAS THE BULLS TO CALL HIMSELF DR. , DR. DEATH MAYBE..... MALNUTRITION AND DISEASE HAS INCREASED IN ABUNDANCE SINCE WE'VE BEEN EATING GMO'S. THEN THERE ARE PROBLEMS LIKE CROP FAILURES, {WHEAT IS AN EXCELLENT EXAMPLE} THE BEES AND BIRDS DYING, POISONED SOIL AND INCREASED EROSION.... AND HEY DOC WHERE DID ALL OUR BEAN SPROUTS GO??? or OUR FAMILY FARMS??? a phucking monsanto paid troll is more like it

 

[DiverseSanctuary]

A decades worth of anecdotal evidence means the case is closed?

Could it not be possible that problems could still arise down the line?

There are plenty of examples of where we were assured of somethings safety only to later find out otherwise.

yes just look at all the recalls and law suits on everything from cars to big pharma

and men have been building cars for yrs and still can't get it right

 

[DiverseSanctuary]

monsanto attempted to sue india's smallholders and family farmers for the sin of "saving seed" but that was rejected by india's courts.

monsanto cant sue anyone in india over their "intellectual property", but that doesnt stop the wahackos from continuing to assert that monsanto can, has, does and will sue inidan smallholders till they commit suicide.

it's all part of the big lie.

the american lawsuits were in some cases utterly rejected (wind blown pollen = stolen technology)
in some cases upheld (deliberately breeding the patented crops to sell the seeds)
and in some cases just perplexing (demanding royalty payments if your crop contains patented genes in any amount)
in general monsanto's success rate in the US and canada with these lawsuits (moar like lolsuits, amirite?) has been abysmal. in my opinion it's time to give judges the power to compel the plaintif to cover all costs incurred by the defendant if the case meets a reasonable threshold of stupidity.

monsanto is tone deaf in their dealings with the people who's asses they should be kissing. if monsanto got behind the small farmers, small farmers would be a huge voice for monsanto's defense against these specious claims, but their lawyers and executives are dumbasses.

of coarse they have been successful. Bench is latin for bank, the judge wears black because most are already declared dead at birth = stock for the market and the U.S. is a corporation and all corps are just an extension of the first corpse. THE CHURCH! the pyramid on your dollar bill that says in g-d we trust. That you obviously worship

 

[DiverseSanctuary]

the wind blown pollen cases were thrown out with prejudice.

The whackadoo econaut press machine ignores the fact that the courts have already rejected that bullshit.

amazing when the same corps basically own the media. That is quite an accusation. Do you have proof of this??? I would like to see all your evidence please

 

[DiverseSanctuary]

you're asserting that something is true (that gmo foods have no dangerous or undesirable side effects) because of lack of evidence to the contrary. That is called argument from ignorance.

Who knows if it will take 35 years for us to slap our heads and say "oh, shit. These gmo carrots make us shoot lasers out of our eyes, and the potatoes make us crack addicts".

The point is that gmo technology is very young and not that well studied. My only political position on them so far is that i want all gmo food labeled so that consumers may make informed decisions. Otherwise, the jury is still out.

not sure what good it does to label a train wreck after it happens but i agree people should have a choice.

 

[DiverseSanctuary]

tut tut tut.

The fact that real cases involving windblown pollen have been thrown out of court, and only those cases where the defendant was proved to be essentially copying gmo crops for resale were actiually prosecuted is irrelevant.

It's the seriousness of the charge that matters.

cern should be shut down because some whackadoos think it will create a "mini black hole", and saying they're crazy means you're part of the 7 foot lizard alien conspiracy from the 9th dimension.
9/11 was an inside job, because of "nano-thermite" and somebody saying "pull it". If you disagree you are most definately part of the conspiracy. (and probably a member of a cia psy ops team.)
wild accusations of being a "bircher" means that everything you ever said is discounted, cuz sodium fluoride is really a health potion.
Nuclear power should be abandoned because ummm... Chernobyl! The danger is too great!
The apollo program is a fraud, and if you think it was real, then youre part of the cover-up!

wild eyed loons have such a marvelous record of helping society and technology advance, why would anyone ever doubt them?

it is a fact, it is those crazies that have changed the world the most!

Is the world still flat where your at???

 

[DiverseSanctuary]

what exactly is genetically engineered cannabis?

this is asked on page 109. This means there are approx 109 pages discussing the gmo cannabis issue here. This is why trolls are so powerful!!! And just one example of how easy it is to believe anything your told. Do the research and know the truth for yourself. Decide for yourself. Don't believe a damned thing i or anyone else says!!! Look at all the science and evidence in the issue. Please!!!

 

[Dr Kynes]

once again dr. Asking questions isn't making claims. Your the one making all the claims here.

So when you vomited up this little nugget of brilliance:

Funny you should bring this up. Why don't we discuss the false pregnancy in Cows who feed on the grains... And in women who are eating the cows or is that from all the hormones... Who really knows........

Which was in fact the VERY FIRST MENTION of "false pregnancies in cattle" you were "just asking questions"?

Well then why dont we put a "?" behind every allegation, every false claim ever unsupported assertion and every Bald Faced Lie that you and your puppetmaster have thrown out in this thread?
After all, it's not a lie if it's a question right?

In fact why bother with little details like evidence at all when questions are the new proof?

Maybe you could show your proof that cows get false pregnancies from eating GMO grains?
Or maybe you pulled that piece of shit right out of your ass before you disguised it as a question?
Perhaps your just a LIAR?
Perhaps everything you have said in this thread has been deliberate and calculated LIES?

When will you provide some evidence to support your claims?

Was your cute little nervous breakdown several pages back caused by "hormones" in GMO's too?

or are you just another mindless twat who regurgitates the talking points provided by the leftist eco-loons?

I'm just asking questions right?

 

[DiverseSanctuary]

but i think ill wait for proof before i start my day with a steaming mug of piss.

oh do come on now ode corporate chap, everyone knows our corporate military troops know just how to do that :d

 

[DiverseSanctuary]

well lets just put aside the appeal to emotion wrapped in argument from ignorance "maybe it will take 35 years for us to slap our heads and say "oh, shit. These gmo carrots make us shoot lasers out of our eyes, and the potatoes make us crack addicts" stance

and lets even put aside the gmo part because it does not matter how the food came into being it is the end result (the offspring/ grain) that is what we're really talking about

now we've put all that aside what have we got?

A novel food source and how might we best go about seeing if its safe to eat?

Well the first thing they did was analyse it's content for toxins, nutrient content, or any other baddies that it might contain

you then have data which you can easily compare to say a parent lineage see how they match up together

oh look they've matched now what step do you take?

Well you could feed both groups to test animals and see compare the 2 of them for toxins, nutrition growth etc and see what the difference is

well as the feedstock being given to the animals is the same guess what you get the same results between the animal groups

looks like theres evidence that this novel food group is safe


this novel food source has now had more testing than any other new food source and that includes novel naturally bred crosses


the people who are against gmo as an ideology have again and again tried to find dangerous results while studying gmo and the only way they can do it is with cherry picking results or downright shoddy experimentation



the argument that maybe just maybe in 35 years we'll all die a horrible death from gmo is an argument from ignorance and its an argument against the the data we have at hand


but for the ideologues none of that matters because "monsanto = pure evil" in their eyes even tho they cannot even give a realistic reason why its true

history & greed are two real reasons

 

[DiverseSanctuary]

have you not read this thread yet? I can tell you its a thrilling dire warning from the anti gmo about the catastrophic consequences that might just might happen yet they cannot find evidence to show

this thread is full of the evidence, just because you choose to ignore it doesn't make it not real.

Is the world still flat where your at?

 

[DiverseSanctuary]

my compliments to kynes, and ginja, and the others who are fighting the valiant battle to push back the dark shroud of ignorance and superstition. I have insufficient patience to join you in the fight. Please carry on.

yes, congrads on being master shi# stackers!!! Pile enough on and you can bury anything. Like monsanto has oops! Did i say that???

 

[DiverseSanctuary]

some people carry water for free, ya know.

yes they know it is full of fluoride, chemicals and their recycled shi#

 

[DiverseSanctuary]

rational to me seems to include the willingness to concede that we don't know yet everything there is to know.

sounds right to me

 

[Dr Kynes]

THIS IS THE BIGGEST BUNCH OF BULLSHI# HERE IN THIS THREAD. FROM A MAN WHO HAS THE BULLS TO CALL HIMSELF DR. , DR. DEATH MAYBE..... MALNUTRITION AND DISEASE HAS INCREASED IN ABUNDANCE SINCE WE'VE BEEN EATING GMO'S. THEN THERE ARE PROBLEMS LIKE CROP FAILURES, {WHEAT IS AN EXCELLENT EXAMPLE} THE BEES AND BIRDS DYING, POISONED SOIL AND INCREASED EROSION.... AND HEY DOC WHERE DID ALL OUR BEAN SPROUTS GO??? or OUR FAMILY FARMS??? a phucking monsanto paid troll is more like it

this will be my final response to you, you are insignificant, irrational, uneducated, and most likely insane.

there were droughts long before there were GMOs.

malnutrition predates GMO's by about 3 BILLION years.

disease likewise, has a pre-GMO history of about 3 BILLION years.

Crops have failed many many many times before GMO's were developed. (see the Olde Testament for details)

Birds and Bees have always died, will always die, and GMO's have nothing to do with it. the best evidence on bee colony collapse syndrome is overuse of neonicitinoid pesticides on bee pollinated crops.

soils have been poisoned by many things in history, but NEVER GMO's GMO's are not poisonous to soil.

Erosion doesnt just predated GMO's it predated LIFE. erosion has been going on since the earth was formed. and monsanto didnt have anything at all to do with that (see the Grand Canyon for details)

bean sprouts, as it turns out, are quite dangerous since they harbour massive ammounts of E Coli, and botulinus. nobody sells bean sprouts any more because its a liability issue, but you can grow your own if you want, it's fucking easy.
step one) buy a packet of Mung Bean seeds
step two) plant those mung bean seeds in a bed of sphagnum moss
step three) keep it damp, cool (~60 degrees F) and dark.
step four) when they sprout, eat them.

Family farms have been disappearing since the 1930's. did GMO's do that too?

These issues which are ALL UNRELATED to GMO's are not more common now than in the past, in fact FEWER people die of hunger and disease now than ever before in history. and it only gets better.

you are a dimwitted hag screeching dire predictions and spitting venom at passers by. in a few more posts youll most likely start hurling cats at children.

 

[DiverseSanctuary]

if its not labeled then what tells you your eating GMO over local?

yes i hear the small "organic" farmers crying alot about it

mainly in the form of demonising GMO food with made up stories and bunk "studies"

taste to start with

 

[DiverseSanctuary]

yes they were developed to resist frost under tests it showed that it didnt work the project was crapped and they never saw the shelves

so your hysterical propagander about them killing people is just plain nonsense


huh you do what?

taste =/= equal nutritional value

and to your tomato reference you do realise that GMO tomatoes are not sold in the usa anymore?

YES BECAUSE THEY WERE A HUGE DISASTER THAT COULD BE SEEN ALMOST IMMEDIATELY, AFTER THEY WERE DECLARED SAFE TO BEGIN WITH. LIKE GMO WHEAT. PROOF GMO's AREN'T ALL YOU ARE TRYING TO CLAIM THEY ARE. SO IF THE DAMAGE ISN'T SO IMMEDIATELY SEEN IT IS OK WITH YOU.

 

[DiverseSanctuary]

by your lack of an intellegent answer and your resorting to comedy to win i would say that your conceding and you belive my entire post and cant argue any of it. Thread closed, thanks for comin out monsanto employees

that seems to be a discernment repeated through-out this thread by several people