My Current Grows Continues

trying to get my wife to get her medical records and go and see the Dr. and get her card, name me as her caregiver and have 24 legal plants. I have a cloner and all equipt. i am ready for the ump to large scale, only one question...

where would i get rid of all overages? GC3, but i havent really heard much about them and their website sucks. i wont farm them out locally. the FM talk in gaylord is a possibility but its all talk now.
 

Shwagbag

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Getting more patients for your overages or making concentrates and/or edibles like crazy is the only legal way. I stay legal but honestly I end up giving a lot of concentrates away to my patients. They seem to be happy! Its fun to play with cooking and hash making. Just an idea for you.... With 24 plants you could do a finely tuned perpetual garden of your favorite strains with a very short veg and your overages would not be as much as you think, perhaps. It would make for easier trimming and more efficient garden management as well. This is the best way to stay within your legal weight limits IMO.

Adding a patient (your wife) adds legal weight, which is really more important than the added plants you can legally have. If I added another patient I wouldn't have any more plants, I would just turn less into concentrates. The way the law is written its really designed for a perpetual garden with small(er) plant yields. It can be a challenge to keep it legal, since there is no way you can move your overages legally unless the person is a registered patient tied to you as their caregiver (so ruled the Michigan Supreme Court). A patient for which you provide that can be set up as a caregiver for other patients without actually growing is probably the best scenario. Then legally they will need an increased volume to provide for their own patients.

Example

You provide for yourself, your wife and another patient who can position him/her self to take on their own patient without growing. Under this scenario you could have up to 10 oz and 36 plants in your residence legally, and you could turn over more volume more quickly, in theory. You could probably do this with just 24 plants depending on the demand of your patients. I presume you already can grow enough for you and your wife without having another cardholder involved at all.

Just an example, I hope this helps.
 
no doubt schwag it helps. I can keep my wife and I supplied for most of the year, i have my fuckups and dry periods, i maybe buy 5 quarters a year. i wont add another patient until i can get the meds I want to grow and have it fine tuned where i know 100% what should happen and more importantly, take care of someone's needs that arent family and wont be happy with something else. its my reputation as a grower and producer to get the best out there that I can.

i think of different perpetual grow cycles at work, lol. i have them, all mapped out in my head but when i get home they are gone. o well. work goes by quickly.
 

Shwagbag

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no doubt schwag it helps. I can keep my wife and I supplied for most of the year, i have my fuckups and dry periods, i maybe buy 5 quarters a year. i wont add another patient until i can get the meds I want to grow and have it fine tuned where i know 100% what should happen and more importantly, take care of someone's needs that arent family and wont be happy with something else. its my reputation as a grower and producer to get the best out there that I can.

i think of different perpetual grow cycles at work, lol. i have them, all mapped out in my head but when i get home they are gone. o well. work goes by quickly.
Perpetual basically runs itself once you get it going. I flower 8-10plants at a time, one or two in and out each week ideally. Its not spot on as I have many strains with different finish times. I have 4 boxes I like to use as well as a cloning area. It breaks down like this.

Clones - I have a cloning area for clones until they're ready to be planted. Single bulb T5 and a propagation dome.
Early Vegging - Once they're ready they go from cuttings they're potted and go into the "early veg" box. 4 x 4' T5 box.
Late Vegging - Once the plants fill out their first containers they are transplanted into 8 gallon Oregon Breathers with supersoil / Roots mix and move them into the "late veg" box. Here they will spread their root base, mature, and get ready for flower while undergoing training. They will spend 2 -4 weeks here depending on their maturity and vigor. 2 x 180W LED.
Flowering - When a plant is harvested out of one of the flower boxes there is vacancy. I pick the most mature "late veg" plant and take 2-4 cuttings from it. Into the flower box it goes to make fruit.
Chop one down, do it again.

There can be some bottlenecks at times depending on how many strains I try to manage, but it all works out. I am using LED's in my late veg box which seems to be working well. The plants take up less water and grow more slowly as far as I can tell, which is nice because if they grow too fast there could be major bottlenecks i.e. vegging with HID. I reckon if you adopt this method you'll never run out again.
 
it seems like i have been in a constant stone since 2008, lol. i veg and clone in the same closet and 18/6 in straight Roots/Happy Frog, whichever i have on hand. Transplant into 3-5 gal. containers and then more Roots and my soil mix on the bottom and into the big room with a 600 and 400 hps until they are finished. i try and get 6 -10 going at the same time. 6 in veg/clone, 6 more 2-4 weeks into veg and 6 flowering. so far it works and can only get better with a cloner and a good mother which is in about 2 weeks old. :-)
 
Lost another favorite resident of the nursing home, 87 jessie. she was in a chair and was a quadra... she had the best sense of humor but when she got mad, stubborn as a goat, lol she was a riot.
gave a few G's to a friend who will in return double it with his stuff tomorrow, he was just out tonight, I gotz friends, lol.
-9 right now and the cat wants to go outside and now the dog has awakened and he wants to go play..cant i just vap. in peace? ;-)
 


my AK's didnt like the starter soil so I had to pull them all up and start again. I thought that AK's were hearty indicas and took alot of abuse and hot soil. o well, live and learn I guess. I have 8 more in the paper towel going to be transplanted this afternoon.

a lesson in stealth for the newbs. My stuff is in the shed outside and if my neighbors are home they will see what busy beavers we are this afternoon, but its sunday and they are at church from 9 to 1. But what about tracks in the snow?, they might look and wonder. 3 days ago i blew a path n the snow from the shed to the house and all the way around the house so it looks normal, i did that just for today. my neighbors are nosey.
 




i have all the AK's in dirt and 2 have popped up, so i did start over from square 1.
I am drying out for the next 2 months and hopefully getting a new job when its over.
 
i am beginning to think these AKs are a bad strain, only 4 have popped ground out of 12. I threw some KK in soil with no soak on the beans, no paper towel, threw them in dirt.....they are up in 3 days and still no AK's......I think I may have been BS'd about Sharecroppers experience.....hmmmm
 

Shwagbag

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i am beginning to think these AKs are a bad strain, only 4 have popped ground out of 12. I threw some KK in soil with no soak on the beans, no paper towel, threw them in dirt.....they are up in 3 days and still no AK's......I think I may have been BS'd about Sharecroppers experience.....hmmmm
Bummer! I never start in soil, only in paper towels so I can see their sprout and vigor. I do however run AK, and it is the strongest vegging and producing plant of my lot. Not for the weak though, its very potent, knocks me down and gives me the absolute worst cotton mouth and munchies lol. I hope they pop for you. If I were you, I might be inclined to dig them up and see if they got rotted from too much water or if they are still able to make it. Try to save'm in some PT's if you can!
 
i have 13 above ground and if thats all then i am happy. i just need a good one to take some clones in a few months and then the cycle starts over again :-)
 
gd mthfking cat pissed in my bags and had to transplant again.....UGHGHHGHGHGHGHHGHGHGHHGHGHGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGHGHGhG

$$ was the biggest thing, hey can i spent another hundo on more soil?, lol.



this is my FDD plant. I have put away the T5 for awhile, it doesnt work as good as the 600/400 for vegging. i gave ikt two grows and i am still not happy with it, so side lighting it is.

I have sent FDD a few cards thru the snail mail. my wife thinks its a bro-mance, but i was in the service and know what it is like to be away from comunication, so I do what I can., stupid Christmas cards left over from last year, he will get them all, lol.
 
they are outside, the bags not the cats, and thats raspberry food. actually thinking of making some raised beds and throwing all the used soil over the months into there, well thats winter thinking, i just want to get outside in the sun and start the garden again and get more than a few potatos and 3 carrots :-) I think I have around 10 gallons of used soil in the shed just waiting for the weather to break.
 

Shwagbag

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they are outside, the bags not the cats, and thats raspberry food. actually thinking of making some raised beds and throwing all the used soil over the months into there, well thats winter thinking, i just want to get outside in the sun and start the garden again and get more than a few potatos and 3 carrots :-) I think I have around 10 gallons of used soil in the shed just waiting for the weather to break.
I also would like to build some raised beds. Through the winter I could recycle a lot of soil for a base. Do you have a compost pile? I dont' compost but often wonder why I don't!
 
i dont compost and think the same, why the fuck not? just lazy and really should get out and do it. one of the many things I think of doing and then get distracted by a shiny thing or scratching my nuts and forget, lol.
 
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