Fan Leafs. Blockers of Light Or Energy Producers???

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PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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Happened to be looking at the description for LA Confidential on the breeders site here: http://dnagenetics.com/seeds/la-confidential

and noticed this..

This is a great medical strain as it relieves pain and helps eliminate insomnia. For the everyday user, the high of this herb is psychedelic and energetic, with a hammer. This girl is a heavy eater. There are two real phenotypes of the Confidential and they will both finish in 45-56 days. One is a bit more hardy, but both equal in knock down drag out stone. Pre-veg’ing is advised to maximize the yield. Thinning the large fan leaves in the later part of the flower cycle will promote more light getting to the lower buds, thus increasing your yield. With an incredible smell and unique LA flavor, DNA’ s LA Confidential has won many awards. 1st Battle of the Bridge 2009 (independent grower) 1st Indica HT Cannabis Cup 2008* 1st Kush Cup Las Vegas 2007 (independent grower) 1st Indica IC420 Breederscup 2005 2nd Bio Highlife Cup 2009 2nd Indica HT Cannabis Cup 2005 3rd Indica HT Cannabis Cup 2004 3rd Kush Cup Las Vegas 2006 Strain of the Year 2006 Hightimes
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Bud Brewer

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Uncle Ben said:
Bullshit. Get over yourself. You've turned into a big mouthed bore.

UB
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You would know about big mouthed bores every time you see a mirror.

Alex gorgeous plants and a great yield and genetics no offense but



But are one of these plants bigger than this top cola?




This is that cola left of the 2 liter the next biggest top is on the right this is one plant.


you used 400 watt's for 3 plants one of mine got 500 no contest.
 
Bud Brewer

Bud Brewer

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PJ Diaz said:
Happened to be looking at the description for LA Confidential on the breeders site here: http://dnagenetics.com/seeds/la-confidential

and noticed this..
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That's not the first time a seed company has recommended leaf removal for better yields those who have done it know it works.

Internet Experts like UB who took the leaves off half a plant and didn't notice a difference. Their on a crusade to stop members from learning because there world is flat so everybody else's must be also.

Alex I take it from your lack of response you know all of your plants don't add up to one of mine you used 400 watt for 3 plants one of mine got 500 no contest.
 
skunkd0c

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Bud Brewer said:
That's not the first time a seed company has recommended leaf removal for better yields those who have done it know it works.

Internet Experts like UB who took the leaves off half a plant and didn't notice a difference. Their on a crusade to stop members from learning because there world is flat so everybody else's must be also.

Alex I take it from your lack of response you know all of your plants don't add up to one of mine you used 400 watt for 3 plants one of mine got 500 no contest.
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why did UB remove any leaves at all, since that would be unscientific from his own stand point, ?
most likely another made up story.. seems fishy to me,
if this guy really is a botanist it beggars belief
most of his posts here are one or two lines, and he still uses the edit function on virtually every post he makes (imbecile)
his plants look average at best, for someone with an ego that big they should be looking spectacular very poor show tut tut
 
Uncle Ben

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Alexander Supertramp said:
Thanks Wiz...

[video=youtube;ETHvSTT6PA8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ETHvSTT6PA8[/video]
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Damn, you got me humming that song when I wake up at 3 in the morning! That's one of those catchy songs that you can't shake lose.

Watched it 20 times so far and emailed a link to my friends....thanks a rot! :)
 
edyah

edyah

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I study under Uncle Ben and so far this is what I see the unlearned gardener doing to his plants:

(Forum paradigms and the noob cannabis matrix prevalent on forums:))

No disrespect, i say this toung in cheek with humor. Take no offensive noobs:

-If the soil is moist an inch down, don't water
-Or let the plant completely dry out its soil before watering
-PH is the problem for EVERYTHING. PH PH PH PH!!!!
-Yellow leaves during flowering is healthy and normal and encouraged for big budz
-c02 at 1500ppm for big budz....spare no expense, despite other limiting factors being out of whack.
-Germinate in paper towels (LOL)
-75 day temp, 69 night temp average* (when really there should be a 20 degree drop at night, and 85 is fine in day with RH lowered)
-High P in flower, no N for big budz!!!1!1! (when a balance is required)
-Hydro is the bestest (when soil will out grow "dro" any time when a noob is taught)
-Molasses works! (Not. Placebo)
-Compost tea! (Not. Placebo)
-Organics ONLY is the bestest ever!11!11!! (makes no difference to the plant)
-Co2 pellets in soil! (how dumb)
-Only buy top dollar cannabis specific products! (gimmick. Stay away from marketed stuff to stoners)
-Miracle grow suxors (it's fine. Amend your own soil. Alfalfa, bone/blood meal, dolomite lime, Copper Hydroxide -Lined pots for root pruning, vermiculite/perlite, potting mix with potting soil, and brown peat moss)
-Bloom foods baby! (hype)
-Romanticize your plants
-Idolize your plant
-Learn how to grow on forums and not stay away from general botany
-Anecdotal evidence is stronger than science concerning the romance of growing big budz1!!11!!
-Only order top dollar mutts and strains. Bag seed is crap (really the truth is, it's the same room just with the furniture moved around contrary to what the pollen chuckers sell you)
-Snake oils work (such as "liquid karma" "lucas formula")
-Leaves are bad. Pluck them all off for big budz.
-Leaves block light. Buds need light!1!1!!!
-The more complicated the better. Spare no cost for big budz!11!
-Don't not keep it simple
-MJ is a god


I am a noob and am about to do my first grow using Uncle Ben's simple, botany minded advice. Will do a grow journal and show that MJ is ...is....a plant! and should be grown like a plant.
 
Alexander Supertramp

Alexander Supertramp

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Uncle Ben said:
Damn, you got me humming that song when I wake up at 3 in the morning! That's one of those catchy songs that you can't shake lose.

Watched it 20 times so far and emailed a link to my friends....thanks a rot! :)
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Im telling you, these guys know how to put on a show!!!

[video=youtube;ns7E5GCul7M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns7E5GCul7M[/video]
 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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edyah said:
I study under Uncle Ben and so far this is what I see the unlearned gardener doing to his plants:

(Forum paradigms and the noob cannabis matrix prevalent on forums:))

No disrespect, i say this toung in cheek with humor. Take no offensive noobs:

-If the soil is moist an inch down, don't water
-Or let the plant completely dry out its soil before watering
-PH is the problem for EVERYTHING. PH PH PH PH!!!!
-Yellow leaves during flowering is healthy and normal and encouraged for big budz
-c02 at 1500ppm for big budz....spare no expense, despite other limiting factors being out of whack.
-Germinate in paper towels (LOL)
-75 day temp, 69 night temp average* (when really there should be a 20 degree drop at night, and 85 is fine in day with RH lowered)
-High P in flower, no N for big budz!!!1!1! (when a balance is required)
-Hydro is the bestest (when soil will out grow "dro" any time when a noob is taught)
-Molasses works! (Not. Placebo)
-Compost tea! (Not. Placebo)
-Organics ONLY is the bestest ever!11!11!! (makes no difference to the plant)
-Co2 pellets in soil! (how dumb)
-Only buy top dollar cannabis specific products! (gimmick. Stay away from marketed stuff to stoners)
-Miracle grow suxors (it's fine. Amend your own soil. Alfalfa, bone/blood meal, dolomite lime, Copper Hydroxide -Lined pots for root pruning, vermiculite/perlite, potting mix with potting soil, and brown peat moss)
-Bloom foods baby! (hype)
-Romanticize your plants
-Idolize your plant
-Learn how to grow on forums and not stay away from general botany
-Anecdotal evidence is stronger than science concerning the romance of growing big budz1!!11!!
-Only order top dollar mutts and strains. Bag seed is crap (really the truth is, it's the same room just with the furniture moved around contrary to what the pollen chuckers sell you)
-Snake oils work (such as "liquid karma" "lucas formula")
-Leaves are bad. Pluck them all off for big budz.
-Leaves block light. Buds need light!1!1!!!
-The more complicated the better. Spare no cost for big budz!11!
-Don't not keep it simple
-MJ is a god


I am a noob and am about to do my first grow using Uncle Ben's simple, botany minded advice. Will do a grow journal and show that MJ is ...is....a plant! and should be grown like a plant.
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Well done, and good luck with your first garden! FWIW, my first garden was about as good as any other. Why? Cause I used common botanical sense, already had gardening experience, had Mel Frank's Guide for the sexing drills and pitfalls, and didn't have an internet forum available.

UB
 
Figong

Figong

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How can the lucas formula, broken down into homebrew components that work when individual, or together be categorized as a snake oil? Am curious.
 
keebo3000

keebo3000

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edyah said:
I study under Uncle Ben and so far this is what I see the unlearned gardener doing to his plants:

(Forum paradigms and the noob cannabis matrix prevalent on forums:))

No disrespect, i say this toung in cheek with humor. Take no offensive noobs:

-If the soil is moist an inch down, don't water
-Or let the plant completely dry out its soil before watering
-PH is the problem for EVERYTHING. PH PH PH PH!!!!
-Yellow leaves during flowering is healthy and normal and encouraged for big budz
-c02 at 1500ppm for big budz....spare no expense, despite other limiting factors being out of whack.
-Germinate in paper towels (LOL)
-75 day temp, 69 night temp average* (when really there should be a 20 degree drop at night, and 85 is fine in day with RH lowered)
-High P in flower, no N for big budz!!!1!1! (when a balance is required)
-Hydro is the bestest (when soil will out grow "dro" any time when a noob is taught)
-Molasses works! (Not. Placebo)
-Compost tea! (Not. Placebo)
-Organics ONLY is the bestest ever!11!11!! (makes no difference to the plant)
-Co2 pellets in soil! (how dumb)
-Only buy top dollar cannabis specific products! (gimmick. Stay away from marketed stuff to stoners)
-Miracle grow suxors (it's fine. Amend your own soil. Alfalfa, bone/blood meal, dolomite lime, Copper Hydroxide -Lined pots for root pruning, vermiculite/perlite, potting mix with potting soil, and brown peat moss)
-Bloom foods baby! (hype)
-Romanticize your plants
-Idolize your plant
-Learn how to grow on forums and not stay away from general botany
-Anecdotal evidence is stronger than science concerning the romance of growing big budz1!!11!!
-Only order top dollar mutts and strains. Bag seed is crap (really the truth is, it's the same room just with the furniture moved around contrary to what the pollen chuckers sell you)
-Snake oils work (such as "liquid karma" "lucas formula")
-Leaves are bad. Pluck them all off for big budz.
-Leaves block light. Buds need light!1!1!!!
-The more complicated the better. Spare no cost for big budz!11!
-Don't not keep it simple
-MJ is a god


I am a noob and am about to do my first grow using Uncle Ben's simple, botany minded advice. Will do a grow journal and show that MJ is ...is....a plant! and should be grown like a plant.
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compost tea's really? read TLO by the rev. i know you worship the good uncle. but there are more ways to skin a cat. but you have seemed to insult people just as your master does, so kudos, you are learning already!kiss-ass
 
keebo3000

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its funny how people say" no offense" right before they say something they know someone will find offensive. why even bother?
 
Figong

Figong

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keebo3000 said:
its funny how people say" no offense" right before they say something they know someone will find offensive. why even bother?
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It's a bit of comedic irony, and foreshadowing of what's coming at the same time.. is why when my wife says 'no offense', my mind tunes out the rest of her rambling and I continue on with my project(s).
 
nick88

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Bud Brewer said:
You would know about big mouthed bores every time you see a mirror.

Alex gorgeous plants and a great yield and genetics no offense but



But are one of these plants bigger than this top cola?




This is that cola left of the 2 liter the next biggest top is on the right this is one plant.


you used 400 watt's for 3 plants one of mine got 500 no contest.
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Jeez,, that looks like something you would see in a Jurassic Park movie.. Nice work
 
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