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PSUAGRO.

PSUAGRO.

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wyteberrywidow said:
Sounds good. I got some clones selected already they did nice in promix I'm running them now in coo and hopefully they do even better.
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At your price point you can only go with the chinese and still get decent yields and lower cooling costs:

http://www.bsled.com/led-grow-light/h158d-140w.html Get two and still be under four hundred with shipping/ best chinese manufacturer/ couple grows here proved they work well and two panels will give you the flexibility to even do six girls in your space.....They honor their warranty and you pay way less straight from the factory..

http://www.cidly.com/?page_id=61 Same deal/ you get more power for the money but quality is inferior to Bysen / two six module apollo's wil be close to four hundred( couple bucks over) If you haggle with them .......happy shopping



K5Doom said:
Hi,

I'm looking to build my own, still unsure wether I should get some Osram GD+, some CREE XTE or some Luxeon ES.

The GD+ are cheaper so that's always nice. My tent volume should be approximately 20x25x40 inches. Still unsure how much light I would need. I'm not looking to grow more than 2-3 plants at the same time, nor do I plan to in the future.
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TL told us that we need no less than 25w a square foot of actual led DRAW in the Red/Deep red/ blue ratio....when white is added the wattage requirements increase, so mainly white ratio TL said no less than 35w a square foot.......good luck

Ganjapussy said:
After working for 2.5 strait months.... I know who has the best LEDs on the Market.... It's simply Blackstar *Shrugs*
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Not even close....................sorry

Amychai0901 said:
I am looking to build my 2*2 grow room,and like to start with 6 plants,not sure one 240w will cover.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1x-240w-Grow-LED-Light-Veg-Flowring-Daisy-Chain-Usage-Full-Spectrum-/230943325586?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35c54b7d92
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NO...........one 240w blackstars will not effectively cover 2x2 in FLOWER=== buy two 135w BS and still do way better than one 240w bs

Kibiguru said:
I decided to go with the Sunshine Systems Pro series. i'm also going with the UltraBlend Series, I heard they were Phenominal, they have the biggest LED and most output. It Covers a 5X5 ft area. I talked to someone at UCSD and that's what they're using. I guess the USDA and Dept of Agriculture uses as well.

http://sdhydroponics.com/lighting-accessories/led-grow-lights/sunshine-systems.html

Unfortunately you have to go through a hydro store to get the Pro Ultrablend light the Manufacturer doesnt sell directly yet, as it's new... :fire:
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Bullshit........I can find that same panel on Alibaba for a third of the cost!!! Sunshine systems is just a middleman(they sell RC car leds as well lol!!) NO USDA involvement..
Buy what you like .........but their are way better panels out there for $$$$

obijkli said:
http://senua-hydroponics.co.uk/products/led-glow-lights/red-and-blue-hydroponic-grow-light

how many of these would i need for 1 or 2 plants? are they any good?
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You can FLOWER ZERO plants with those IMO........save your money and get something better

guod said:
fran says it all, so only a link

http://www2.electronicproducts.com/When_it_comes_to_binning_LEDs_some_like_it_hot-article-farc_cree_mqy2012-html.aspx
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Who doubts you Goud????????:fire:
 
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Hosebomber

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SDS, I have been following the panel you and Guod have been developing. Very nice work and I can't wait to see the results of it. We all know that the current Astir panels are missing the deep and far reds. You corrected that in the panel you and Guod designed. My statement of putting those 2 against each other was for current state. The Hans panel is missing the ALL accessory pigments, the Astir is missing the heavy reds. Neither of the 2 panels are perfect, but they both perform well enough to compete against what is out there.

Pet, I'm very disappointed that you claim everyone is reluctant to change on the green issue and you have yet to produce one article. You are still following the early panel producer that used the name NASA (which they was sued for and had to change their wording) to sell their product. I'm not saying that there are not accessory pigments that use green to some small extent, or that there isn't a chemical reaction that needs those photons. I'm simply saying that a few warm or cool whites will supply more than enough green light. There is no need for a green LED or mass nuteral whites to hit those accessory pigments.
 
FranJan

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PSUAGRO. said:
Bullshit........I can find that same panel on Alibaba for a third of the cost!!! Sunshine systems is just a middleman(they sell RC car leds as well lol!!) NO USDA involvement
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Really? They do charge quite a bit for their panels. Is that how they stay in business? LOL. I think they're a little better than you give them credit for. Or do you know something I don't?
 
Corso312

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I can't find that link that someone put from a YouTube video of a great light, believe some of you called it the best light they had seen..was like a 7/8 thousand $ led light...anyone know wat I'm talking bout?
 
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It can be easily done with sativa strong strains or a small auto flower like lowrider however im assuming Amychai is starting with six because she expects to only have 2 or 3 fems after sexing. 6 indicas def wont fit of course. Amy, I'd go with two or three using the SCROG method.
 
stardustsailor

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Hosebomber said:
SDS, I have been following the panel you and Guod have been developing. Very nice work and I can't wait to see the results of it. We all know that the current Astir panels are missing the deep and far reds. You corrected that in the panel you and Guod designed. My statement of putting those 2 against each other was for current state. The Hans panel is missing the ALL accessory pigments, the Astir is missing the heavy reds. Neither of the 2 panels are perfect, but they both perform well enough to compete against what is out there.
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Correct! 1000%

Pet, I'm very disappointed that you claim everyone is reluctant to change on the green issue and you have yet to produce one article. You are still following the early panel producer that used the name NASA (which they was sued for and had to change their wording) to sell their product. I'm not saying that there are not accessory pigments that use green to some small extent, or that there isn't a chemical reaction that needs those photons*. I'm simply saying that a few warm(depends on which 'warms '.Some are not far from being characterized as ....Reds with a bit of Green/Blue ) or cool whites will supply more than enough green light. There is no need for a green LED(except if a 'research led fixture" . ;-) ) or mass neutral (or cool ) whites to hit those accessory pigments.
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Yes! ....

*Still green light is used for PS ,also ....
Yes less absorbed by every single leaf ,but generally as whole ,plants do absorb green photons ..
Quite an "amount" ..
And they have also pretty high RQE ...

But ...Green light(wavelengths ) is next to Blue ,at causing "weird" or "unwanted " side effects ...
So...just a "touch " ...A "bridge ",actually ...
+100.


So ....

Yes ,every possible led panel buyer ,should be considering all these ...basics _...shall we say ? ....
 
PetFlora

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Hosebomber said:
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Pet, I'm very disappointed that you claim everyone is reluctant to change on the green issue and you have yet to produce one article. You are still following the early panel producer that used the name NASA (which they was sued for and had to change their wording) to sell their product. I'm not saying that there are not accessory pigments that use green to some small extent, or that there isn't a chemical reaction that needs those photons. I'm simply saying that a few warm or cool whites will supply more than enough green light. There is no need for a green LED or mass nuteral whites to hit those accessory pigments.
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Not sure where you get the idea I am a huge NW fan (maybe a year ago, but damn, this is on fast moving target.) , though with some NWs you could probably do a pretty decent grow. For sure more NW in veg, but 1:6 in flower. Can any of you who 'liked' this show me where I said otherwise? Maybe you were all liking the first paragraph.
 
stardustsailor

stardustsailor

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Com'on Pet ...
Do not get upset ...
We're just having fun and sharing ,through web ..
No harm's done ..
Plus ,that you have to admit ,that ..Ok ...You're quite fond of NWs .. :-P ..

It's not bad to have some ...
But also there are some "conditions", regarding the choice of NW ...( I think Cree here really "dominates " ... ) ..
Depending mainly , on rest of leds used ....

Alone ? Of course they can grow plants ....
But they are not going to be the healthiest looking or heavy yielders ...
Unless ,again,we are talking about "low light green leafies " ...Like certain varieties of basilicum or mint or even oregano ...(Salvia family )

(Generally ,come to think about it ....NW leds are probably the ideal "base " led choise for carrots ,cucumbers ,almost for whole "Salvia " family.. ...
Really a "green aromatic / spice herb" led ....
Not enough for the "needy " Rosales order ,though ....
And probably of negative impact if above a certain power/number of leds ...)
 
PetFlora

PetFlora

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Yes, the problem is when something like NW is used generically, or WW or red nms... Whose diodes, what are the specs, bin, etc....

Have you kept up with my grow? The screw bulb combo of NW +WW did as good a job for veg as using 2 @ 54w bulbs under my HOT5, using aquarium bulbs

The only reason I added the ufo 90 (R/B Bridgelux) to my LED tent when I flipped, was I didn't have an extra $100 to buy more WW screw bulbs.

Unless you have actually grown this way (NW + WW), you are simply assuming. Keep in mind a bumble bee is not supposed to be able to fly
 
PSUAGRO.

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FranJan said:
Really? They do charge quite a bit for their panels. Is that how they stay in business? LOL. I think they're a little better than you give them credit for. Or do you know something I don't?
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Would I lie to you brother ?..............Cough:p

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/latest-design-for-2013-5w-high-power-led-grow-lights/751725774.html

another factory all the same shit====copy off each other

http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/718749479/T63_Series_63x5W_Greenhouse_5W_LED.html

A dozen more if you look .......nothing special about the ULTRABLEND panel it's just rebranded for PROFIT......what's wrong with that????:)
 
FranJan

FranJan

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PSUAGRO. said:
Would I lie to you brother ?..............Cough:p

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/latest-design-for-2013-5w-high-power-led-grow-lights/751725774.html

another factory all the same shit====copy off each other

http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/718749479/T63_Series_63x5W_Greenhouse_5W_LED.html

A dozen more if you look .......nothing special about the ULTRABLEND panel it's just rebranded for PROFIT......what's wrong with that????:)
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Ha! By my own list of rules I can't believe you LOL, but after checking out their website and products (Zeners!), you've got me looking at them in a sub-Blackstar kind of way. And don't be hating on my Blackstar. My 240s are gonna light on fire any day now and save my ass from my shit co-op apartment:). You know I can see the clear covers starting to get all cloudy on some diodes. Probably pop those caps off and run them until the epoxy degrades. I'm gonna miss my little 240s, till I turn on their replacements ;).

I think I'm gonna try to edit my list and put a little warning/advice about panels with Zeners.
 
NewtoMJ

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What about 5000k diodes? 5000k is a nearly neutral color temperature, would it be possible to have a spectrum that uses mostly neutral light for overall intensity; but maintain a select group of diodes which are r/b on a dial control? That way you can control your spikes and tune it in for the stage of growth your plants are in?
 
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Banefoul

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yes i did read. them. the title of this thread is.... as such what was be spoken of was to other people, and not me. i did not see anything that would answer my question. it would be of great help if you or someone else would provide the help this thread says it is here for. thank you.
 
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LEDmania

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Kibiguru said:
I decided to go with the Sunshine Systems Pro series. i'm also going with the UltraBlend Series, I heard they were Phenominal, they have the biggest LED and most output. It Covers a 5X5 ft area. I talked to someone at UCSD and that's what they're using. I guess the USDA and Dept of Agriculture uses as well.

http://sdhydroponics.com/lighting-accessories/led-grow-lights/sunshine-systems.html

Unfortunately you have to go through a hydro store to get the Pro Ultrablend light the Manufacturer doesnt sell directly yet, as it's new... :fire:
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Well, I am afraid it's hard to get the Ultrablend light from anywhere now, it was made by http://www.ct-lighting.com/ last year, but to my knowledge, CT lighting has got bankruptcy and it is no longer existing. Or wait until it recovers?
 
PetFlora

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Banefoul said:
yes i did read. them. the title of this thread is.... as such what was be spoken of was to other people, and not me. i did not see anything that would answer my question. it would be of great help if you or someone else would provide the help this thread says it is here for. thank you.
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As I look at your query, you should first measure the SPD of sun penetrating into the green house, THEN, adjust for any missing spectrums. Most likely, you are only concerned with supplementing during flower
 
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