I offered 120 euro and we agreed on 140 which included him driving halfway,which was about 20 miles.He gave me back 5 euro after the deal was done so in total it cost 135,he threw in 2 extra bulbs,1 each of 250w hps and mh.
My grow 2.5, 400 watt hempy scrog, Big Bud x Northern Lights, OG Kush, and Bubba 76
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I offered 120 euro and we agreed on 140 which included him driving halfway,which was about 20 miles.He gave me back 5 euro after the deal was done so in total it cost 135,he threw in 2 extra bulbs,1 each of 250w hps and mh.
psilocybindude
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Yeah looks like a pretty damn good deal you got man.
DrOfWelshMagic
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yeah i suppose. lol. i started a journal on the grow to get opinions as to when to trigger, when/if to lollipop, etc. as well as show the strain off, dont find too much on sites about belladonna and she really is a joy of a plant imo.
Shaggn
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Haven't caught up on your thread, so if someone already mentioned it, great!!
Water immediately with properly ph'd water (flush) basically. Also a note to the ph of Distilled/R.O and all other water sources. Opeing a bottle of any store bought water will have varying ph's. That being said, most are around 6.5-7 ph, but after the water container has been opened it will almost immediately start to take carbon out of the atmosphere which in turn drops your ph drastically (to as low as 4-5 ph). Never assume anything!! Glad you found the problem and look forward to your ladies recovery. Peace!!
psilocybindude
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Thanks for the knowledge shag, you were a wealth of information as usual.
psilocybindude
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I got up today and took a look at the plants and they didn't look any better so i started typing in the same old thing that i have been typing into google for days now, trying to get some type of answers for what was going on and i did find something new, i found people complaining about perlite drying out to quickly and saying that noobs should start with a mix of perlite and vermiculite because perlite does not retain that much water. So that got me paranoid about the possibility that i and shag could be mistaking over watering for under watering so i obsessed about this until i got brave enough and decided to check on the roots, i was extremely careful to not damage anything and i was successful, and when i pulled out the perlite boy was i surprised both my veneno and burmese kush have pretty much a solo cup sized root ball, full of white healthy looking roots, the critical + still has not reached the bottom of the res but its about 5 days younger...
psilocybindude
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Here are some pictures from today its only been about 48 hours since i started PH balancing and i cant see any real changes yet accept that the cotyledon on the critcal + has started to yellow and i think i might see a slight bit of growth from the Burmese Kush but i cant be sure, ether way im going to start watering every 3 or so days for the plants that have reached the res and im going to pour down the side of the critical + solo cup hempy until it does, I'm also going to put a solo cup in the grow room full of perlite and a rock wool cube for reference purposes. I was really surprised at how big and healthy the root system was on the veneno and the burmese kush, before i checked them i was wondering if wouldn't just find that the tap root was barley hanging out of the bottom of the cube, or if all the roots would be brown and dying of root rot, but i was pleased to see absolutely no root rot, it made me question whether or not i was over watering but ether way the plants have reached the res and i need to let them dry out every so many days so the roots can get some oxygen. I can not even express how stressed this has made me even today i was considering just planting them in some jiffy mix so i dont have to deal with this any more but hopefully things will be looking up from now on.
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psilocybindude
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So i am starting to wonder when would be a good time to feed these seedlings, they have a pretty big root system but there still isnt a whole lot on top i was thinking about maybe feeding them 1/8 of a tea spoon of the gh series thats 1/2 strength of the reccomended dosage for seedlings, i am really just worried that because of the dying cotyledon's they dont have enough energy to grow at all...
psilocybindude
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I've been telling people for years on these forums not to fertilize until the cotyledon's fall off, and now here i am contemplating fertilizing my seedlings that look like 5 day old sprouts and still have there cotyledon's on them... I really really want to just transplant them into my super soil but i know even that would probably kill them and i don't want to turn back anyways, i want to tell my self that they have huge root systems and they can handle it, but its the leaves that take the damage and there aren't many... I think i need to slow down here, but i feel like that's a part of the problem, i feel like I'm doing nothing and my seedlings are just setting there dying, i don't know what I'm going to do, a part of me thinks wait it out but another part of me says if i keep waiting they are going to die...
Shaggn
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Stress can do a lot of unseen damage. My worry is that their ph was out for so long, that you may have stunted/retarded them. You could try a small dosage of veg nutes like you said. Be ready to flush incase they don't like it. If that happens the only thing you can do is continue to water with properly ph'd water and hope for the best. They should be growing if they have that developed of a root system, but remain stunted. Hope they start growing. Peace!!
psilocybindude
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So some guys over in the sick plants section encouraged me to feed my plants and i did, https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/630890-stunted-seedlings.html i mixed up 1/8 of a tsp of grow bloom and micro then i PH balanced it to 5.8 and fed them, the ppm came out to 59 so it was a pretty light dose but they are responding well to it, for the first time in weeks I've seen what i consider to be noticeable growth and i see no signs of nutrient burn...
I know the lower growth on some of them doesn't look so healthy but i see a noticeable improvement and most of these symptoms started after i started balancing the PH and before i started feeding, i believe the burmese kush had the beginnings of a phosphorus deficiency and the critical + probably had the beginnings of a nitrogen deficiency and I'm not so sure what was wrong with the veneno. Ether way though I'm happy to report that there is new growth and its all looking healthy, I'm not sure exactly what cause the stunted growth i don't know if it was not having nutrients, over watering, the PH being fucked up for the first few weeks, or even a lack of humidity with a fan blowing on them, but I'm happy to say now that i believe they will make it.
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I know the lower growth on some of them doesn't look so healthy but i see a noticeable improvement and most of these symptoms started after i started balancing the PH and before i started feeding, i believe the burmese kush had the beginnings of a phosphorus deficiency and the critical + probably had the beginnings of a nitrogen deficiency and I'm not so sure what was wrong with the veneno. Ether way though I'm happy to report that there is new growth and its all looking healthy, I'm not sure exactly what cause the stunted growth i don't know if it was not having nutrients, over watering, the PH being fucked up for the first few weeks, or even a lack of humidity with a fan blowing on them, but I'm happy to say now that i believe they will make it.
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So last night i decided to transplant my seedlings into 2 liter bottles because the last time i checked they seemed to have filled up the solo cup hempys pretty well, and i figured why waste time that they could be building them selves a deeper root system with, they are going into 5 gallon buckets after all... Anyways i found out that the root systems were not as well developed as i had thought they would be, all 3 of the perlite root balls crumbled quite a bit when i was trying to transplant, the critical + root ball pretty much disintegrated by the time it hit the new pot, i was also surprised to see that the critical + still had not hit the bottom of the solo cup hempy and hadn't had a whole lot of growth. The plants are on there second leaf set and I've also bumped the GH ferts up to 115 pmm with no ill effect, I am pretty sure i succeeded in transplanting the seedlings with little significant damage to the plants i was being very careful, Ill post up some pics shortly...
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New growth is continuing however i have noticed brown spots on some of the leaves, i believe that this is a calcium deficiency, i have been feeding my seedlings RO water with GH flora micro for hard water because i was worried about the effects that the tap water might have on my young seedlings, so i will be switching over to tap water tonight to see if things get better, I'm anxious to see whether or not my tap water will be usable for hydro i hope it is or I'm going to have to get new nutes and have to keep paying for RO water...
psilocybindude
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I believe our tap water has chlorine in it so i let my water set out for about 20 minutes before mixing the nutrients i also ran the water with a mixture of hot and cold so that the water is not to cold for the plants, the water before nutes measured 235 ppm and after nutes measured 378 ppm i PH balanced to 6.1 and watered, this is the first full dose of nutes the plants have received and on top of that they are getting an extra 235 ppm of what ever is in the tap water i hope the plants do okay... I really gotta say im loving this method of feeding because i can measure how much i give them each time, how they react and record it, its much more scientific and i like it quite a lot...
Here are some pictures
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Burmese kush
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Here are some pictures
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psilocybindude
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I'm so happy to have so much growth in one page, it may have taken 10 pages but its finally going, the plants seem to be reacting fine to the tap water and the change in the ppms...
DrOfWelshMagic
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i live in a soft water area but still i leave my tap water to stand for at least 24hrs before adding my nutes, summin i read about the chlorine designed to kill bacteria in the water also kills the bacteria in the nutes that our plants need.... plus it brings it almost to room temperature so no cold shock for the ladies when they get watered...
DrOfWelshMagic
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hey dude, just a lil catch up, here are the ww x bb @ day 35 of 12/12
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and here's the belladonna @ 35 of veg 18/6. gonna flip em monday im thinking..
psilocybindude
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The chlorine in the water would kill micro beasties in the water and in the soil, but hydro growers don't need to worry so much about that i don't think, because the fertilizers are synthetic they don't need to be broken down by the micro organisms to feed the plant, I'm not sure if the same rules apply to people using synthetic fertilizers in soil or soiless mediums, i know organic growers are the ones who really like to cultivate a strong micro horde, but i do believe that synthetic fertilizers kill off micro organisms in farm land so i would assume the fertilizers you are using on your medium would do the same. If you really want to cultivate a strong micro horde you should brew some EWC tea for them I've heard it does wonders for nutrition and PH, As far as setting out the water goes I'm going to get a tub and fill it with water once the plants start using a lot so that i always have chlorine free water ready to go at room temperature...
Looking nice man are those big ones in your attic, lol i just noticed the angled walls and wasn't wondering if that was for light reflection or because it was in the attic, ether way there looking really nice and health man, i think those ww x bb buds are looking just about as big as my white russian was on harvest day, do you have a grow journal?
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