What the heck was this dog doing on a beach if it can't be controlled?

Winter Woman

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What were they thinking by taking a dog that they can't control out somewhere like this. What if he had gotten away in a neighborhood with other animals around what could have happened?

This breed it is like a load gun when in the wrong hands. Maybe there should be dog control legislation instituted here?

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LAGUNA BEACH (CBSLA.com) — Gabrielle Giffords’ husband pulled his daughter’s dog off of a sea lion in Laguna Beach over the weekend.
The incident, which was captured on video, happened around 1:40 p.m. Saturday at Goff Cove Beach by the Montage Laguna Beach.

Retired astronaut Mark Kelly’s 18-year-old daughter, who was on vacation with her father and Giffords, was walking the American bulldog on a leash when the 65-pound dog saw the sea lion, ran off and attacked.


Nathan, who declined to give his last name, happened to be having lunch nearby when he started to film the chaotic scene on his cellphone.

The graphic video, which he later posted on YouTube, showed the young girl screaming while her dog had the sea lion by the neck.
Two other women tried to help until Kelly finally arrived and forced the dog off of the animal.
The sea lion later died.
 

Flaming Pie

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IMO, it is what it is. Dog saw a strange creature and attacked. My dog kills baby bunnies and squirrels about once or twice a year. It is instinct.
 

Winter Woman

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IMO, it is what it is. Dog saw a strange creature and attacked. My dog kills baby bunnies and squirrels about once or twice a year. It is instinct.
But your dog doesn't do it on a public beach. My dog used to kill rabbits in his backyard. But never did anything out in public-ever. IMO the dog was out of control.
 

Winter Woman

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Not saying I enjoy it. Just that a dog on it's own will attack animals it sees as "prey".
I don't think anyone enjoyed it. And I do understand instincts. I could call my dog back at anytime, of course, I trained dogs for obedience for fun, usually Labs.
 

Flaming Pie

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The dog WAS on leash.

My dogs will let go of prey if I firmly say drop it.

That dog had prob never played fetch and release before.
 

Moebius

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A similar thing happened to me. Just outside my house I heard screaming and shouting and a Pitt-bull had another dog in its mouth. lock-jawed. There were 20 people looking at it and nobody knew what to do. .... I walked into my kitchen, filled a bowl of water and threw the water in the dogs face. .... It let go immediately.

When they get to that stage, I don't think the dog knows what to do next. Its like they are on auto-pilot.
 

STACKB

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pitbulls , the most misunderstood breed of dogs ever, with german shepards having a stronger bite, there is no such thing as a lock jaw. I will never buy any other breed of dog ,but a pitbull. Remember there is no bad dogs just bad owners. Too many irresponsible owners out there, my dogs will let go with a snap of a finger. I dont know if anyone recalls, but a pitbull saved his owner,(an old lady) who fell on the train tracks. The dogs instinct kicked in and it located its owner and dragged her off just in time before the train passed, losing one of its rear legs in the process. Let me see a little shit stain dog do that. lol

If your having trouble with your dog, shit, watch the dog whisperer. lol
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
To me the moral of a thread is "if you wish to own a dog, be responsible for all of its behaviors." That includes barking, O gentle neighbors. :cuss: cn
 

Moebius

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pitbulls , the most misunderstood breed of dogs ever, with german shepards having a stronger bite, there is no such thing as a lock jaw. I will never buy any other breed of dog ,but a pitbull. Remember there is no bad dogs just bad owners. Too many irresponsible owners out there, my dogs will let go with a snap of a finger. I dont know if anyone recalls, but a pitbull saved his owner,(an old lady) who fell on the train tracks. The dogs instinct kicked in and it located its owner and dragged her off just in time before the train passed, losing one of its rear legs in the process. Let me see a little shit stain dog do that. lol

If your having trouble with your dog, shit, watch the dog whisperer. lol
I think they really love their owners. Almost obsessively. Ive been around them all my life but never owned one. I would say they are very childish. but with the super strength. ... My friends one gets embarrassed and sulks if it farts and people hold there noses. lol.

I agree they don't have a lock-jaw but they get too frightened or panicked to let go. ... When I splashed the water in the pitt-bulls face, I think it was relived to be out of the situation and wasn't mad at me. Certainly the owner still thanks me to this day. ... I wouldnt go near the dog now after seeing him in a bad mood.

They are a really friendly breed but I can't tell you how many times they have head-butt me in the mouth when they've just come up to say Hello.
 

Hepheastus420

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Every meat eating animal kills other animals... So I honestly find the girl screaming funny. But you're right, he should have been under better control.
 

smileb0b

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pitbulls , the most misunderstood breed of dogs ever, with german shepards having a stronger bite, there is no such thing as a lock jaw. I will never buy any other breed of dog ,but a pitbull. Remember there is no bad dogs just bad owners. Too many irresponsible owners out there, my dogs will let go with a snap of a finger. I dont know if anyone recalls, but a pitbull saved his owner,(an old lady) who fell on the train tracks. The dogs instinct kicked in and it located its owner and dragged her off just in time before the train passed, losing one of its rear legs in the process. Let me see a little shit stain dog do that. lol

If your having trouble with your dog, shit, watch the dog whisperer. lol
Very very true. There are a lot of Pitties that are bad, just like there are a lot of Labs, Chihuahuas, and Dalmatians that are bad. I am not going to get into a pissing match about it but I will state my knowledge and opinions. They were used in fighting yes, but not fighting people. Part of how they were bred was to be aggressive towards other animals but not people, this way when the fight was over the handler could subdue the dog without worry of being attacked as well. However they have to be taught fighting and violence. They were also used as a nanny breed to watch over babies and children. All dogs require responsible ownership, teach your dog to listen and respect you as the pack leader and you will have far less problems. It is obvious the owners of this dog didn't know what they were doing.

I have owned 4 Pitt-bulls and none have ever shown a hint of aggression towards each other or people. We have never used any sort of aggressive actions in their training or handling. We have a handful of Labs and Chihuahuas in our neighbor hood that are far more aggressive than our dogs. When we walk them they stay with us, no matter what. Yet the Chihuahuas will chase us down the street growling, barking and biting at us and our dogs. The Lab owners have to use all their strength to hold their dog back while they are walking them, apologizing to us and yelling/hitting their dog the entire time. Some even try and jump the fence while growling and snarling as we walk by, yet mine just stay calm and normal while walking beside us.

The "Locking Jaw" is a myth. They just have extremely strong jaw muscles. This comes from the genetics of a Bull Breed. The Bull breed was used to hold down cows and bulls by there nose so the rancher could form certain duties to the livestock without worry of being mauled by them.
 

Moebius

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To me the moral of a thread is "if you wish to own a dog, be responsible for all of its behaviors." That includes barking, O gentle neighbors. :cuss: cn
I've had a dog owner or owners put their dog poop bag in my recycling bin on a couple of occasions.

I would love to have caught the culprit.
 

Hepheastus420

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Do you think she ever screamed like that over an insect being stepped on? She shouldn't give so much value to a life just because it's seen as a special creature, unlike an ant or something.

Also, if she actually saved the sea lion, it would just go off and kill other sea creatures. Sorry for going off topic, I'm done.. it's just, her voice and screaming is so annoying.
 

STACKB

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Yeah definately clumsy dogs... The water in the face thing is key. In my younger days, my father woke me up one morning talking about he saw a guy walking a female pit down the street and wants the dog to meet my dog. For the love of the dogs. Me , half asleep brought my dog into the hallway and immediately the female starts barking, I asked the owner about 5 times, " Are you sure your dog is good?" he assures me shes good. Having a bad feeling about the whole thing , but half asleep , my dumb ass brings my dog close and she immediately latched onto my dogs face. And my dog is one beautiful dog, I was offered 5k for him walking him down the st at 6months old. I couldnt do it. With that said, My first instinct was to clinch my dogs head with my legs so he wouldnt try to pull back and rip his face off.. and i held the females head as still as i can. At the time , i didnt know what to do so i asked for permission and started punching the female as hard as i could in the head until i couldnt feel my hand. Only made it worst, it was like she enjoyed it and got her deeper into her trance.. The owner sticks a lighter inside the dogs butt, and nothing. My father immediately grabbed a cup of water and splashed her in the face and BAM! She let go right away. I was suprised! Luckily my dog walked away with a few scars that can barely be seen today.

I later find out, the owner rescued the dog and only owned her for two weeks ! jesus

Edit: My town is home of the mini pitts, where they originated from. You see pitts everywhere.
 

Moebius

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Yeah definately clumsy dogs... The water in the face thing is key. In my younger days, my father woke me up one morning talking about he saw a guy walking a female pit down the street and wants the dog to meet my dog. For the love of the dogs. Me , half asleep brought my dog into the hallway and immediately the female starts barking, I asked the owner about 5 times, " Are you sure your dog is good?" he assures me shes good. Having a bad feeling about the whole thing , but half asleep , my dumb ass brings my dog close and she immediately latched onto my dogs face. And my dog is one beautiful dog, I was offered 5k for him walking him down the st at 6months old. I couldnt do it. With that said, My first instinct was to clinch my dogs head with my legs so he wouldnt try to pull back and rip his face off.. and i held the females head as still as i can. At the time , i didnt know what to do so i asked for permission and started punching the female as hard as i could in the head until i couldnt feel my hand. Only made it worst, it was like she enjoyed it and got her deeper into her trance.. The owner sticks a lighter inside the dogs butt, and nothing. My father immediately grabbed a cup of water and splashed her in the face and BAM! She let go right away. I was suprised! Luckily my dog walked away with a few scars that can barely be seen today.

I later find out, the owner rescued the dog and only owned her for two weeks ! jesus

Edit: My town is home of the mini pitts, where they originated from. You see pitts everywhere.
HAHA The owner of the other dog had a stick in his hand ready to stick it up the pitt's ass. .. lol The water was the easy way out.

edit;
The object up a dogs butt seems to be a bit of an unfortunate myth for the dog. I'm sure thats not the official advice for animal attacks.
 
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