ProdigalSun
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Outside facilities have a stipulation that the weed can't be visible, but what about in the house? Can I leave the plants on the windowsill on a sunny day?
April 1st approved changes to mmmp law
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LadyZandra
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For overages, My understanding was (PLEASE correct me if I have been misinformed!) If you have it in sealed containers marked with the weight, date the 'curing process' was started and the "can be used after...." date on it AND stored in a locked cabinet/freezer etc... you CAN have overages.... as long as EACH batch marked for use on or by that date only equals your 2.5 oz ..????
ProfessorPotSnob
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I dont follow the guessing game , an uninterrupted supply to my patients is what I do best and the whole 2.5 is bullshit and unrealistic as well .. I help others will real illness and often 2.5 is the minumal needed to even begin an oil regimen .. More like 2.5 lbs to be honest is needed for each person if they are to take a initial 90 day dosage along with a maintenance dosage afterwards ..
I like to see those in need to be capable of ingesting 4-5 mills of oil a day if need be and if I have 5 people in need of 5 millls a day 2.5 ounces will be like shake on the tray and worthless ..
I like to see those in need to be capable of ingesting 4-5 mills of oil a day if need be and if I have 5 people in need of 5 millls a day 2.5 ounces will be like shake on the tray and worthless ..
ProfessorPotSnob
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Again this centers on the uninterrupted supply , in short nobody can guarantee a crop 100 % as much as we wish and in the end its bullshit when people are not allowed by law to grow and harvest the proper amounts needed to make oil . I cant even count the number of people that I have meet who have lost everything in one blow .. Patients all felt the wrath as well
CashCrops
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To be honest, I was completely astonished that marijuana for medicinal use was ever even allowed at all. I knew there was going to be battle after battle and everyone trying to get there hands in the pot from Doctors to Lawyers and politicians and sadly for guys like you Pot and me and many others that want to see people healed not managed will end up paying in the end. I hope more and better changes come.
ProdigalSun
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I have known more people who refuse to get a card, because it's safer to operate illegally, than I know who have a card.
They need to change to maybe a pound per plant, and 12 ADULT flowering females, instead of counting sprouts which are useless, and stop counting branches as plants. Until a clone can go outside and survive the wind sun and rain, it's not a plant, its a branch.
They need to change to maybe a pound per plant, and 12 ADULT flowering females, instead of counting sprouts which are useless, and stop counting branches as plants. Until a clone can go outside and survive the wind sun and rain, it's not a plant, its a branch.
ProdigalSun
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Anyone? ...
somepotname
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That's not how I understand the laws at all. Where did you get this information. You can not have any dried usable marijuana beyond the 2.5 oz/licence. There hasn't been any court opinions on whether curing constitutes dried usable however I wouldn't recommend hanging your hat on this interpretation you've put forth.
somepotname
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Only the person legally allowed to posses the plants may have access to those plants.
somepotname
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I don't see how it is safer to operate illegally. You can use a section 8 defense if you have your paperwork filled out without submitting it to the state. However, you will not be protected from arrest, having you assets potentially including you home confiscated, or your kids put in protected services. It's more than worth it in my opinion to file the paperwork with the state.
ProdigalSun
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Putting your name and address on a paper vs. staying under the radar.
What's section 8?
I live alone, so I should be good then.
somepotname
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Section 8 refers to section 8 of the mmma. It outlines a defense for citizens.
I can't guarantee you will be good. I would say you would have a much better case in court if you were alone. You would also have to be in a locked enclosed facility. So if you're going this route you should lock the doors to your place.
I can't guarantee you will be good. I would say you would have a much better case in court if you were alone. You would also have to be in a locked enclosed facility. So if you're going this route you should lock the doors to your place.
LadyZandra
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But that is per patient...and at any one given time-- not per month, per week, etc.. HENCE the ability to lable it "For use by Patient X week of ....." and store it in a locked cupboard etc....
LadyZandra
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This was presented Publicly By MMMM and NORML back in November..... online at a couple different sites...
But ONLINE isn't always legit-- hence my ???
Any Marijuana Lawyers online!?
But ONLINE isn't always legit-- hence my ???
Any Marijuana Lawyers online!?
somepotname
Active Member
Thanks. I'm going to check that out.
ProdigalSun
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I have long been in the habit of locks, arms, and cameras.
Dr. Bob
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There are two basic sections...
Section 4 you have a card on you, your counts/weights are within limits, and everything is enclosed and secure. That means you are supposed to be immune from arrest.
Section 8 is the defense, it really only comes into play if you don't fall in Section 4. With this, you have to prove your condition (rather than just show the card), show you had a bonafide relationship with the doc, and only had enough medication to treat your condition. It can be attacked and must be defended on several fronts. You will need lawyers, doctors and experts to do so, plus you can expect to be arrested, make bond, etc. It is a slow process, Bob Redden has been at in in Oakland Co for 4 years now and it takes quite a toll as he can tell you.
The problem with the section 8 defense is that not all patients have the resources and backing to make it. Unless you can pay the private attorneys and experts, it is very common for the prosecutors and public defenders to try and force a plea, I've seen it happen many times. Given a choice, the smart money is on strict compliance with section 4 to stay out of trouble.
Dr. Bob
Section 4 you have a card on you, your counts/weights are within limits, and everything is enclosed and secure. That means you are supposed to be immune from arrest.
Section 8 is the defense, it really only comes into play if you don't fall in Section 4. With this, you have to prove your condition (rather than just show the card), show you had a bonafide relationship with the doc, and only had enough medication to treat your condition. It can be attacked and must be defended on several fronts. You will need lawyers, doctors and experts to do so, plus you can expect to be arrested, make bond, etc. It is a slow process, Bob Redden has been at in in Oakland Co for 4 years now and it takes quite a toll as he can tell you.
The problem with the section 8 defense is that not all patients have the resources and backing to make it. Unless you can pay the private attorneys and experts, it is very common for the prosecutors and public defenders to try and force a plea, I've seen it happen many times. Given a choice, the smart money is on strict compliance with section 4 to stay out of trouble.
Dr. Bob
HomeLessBeans
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I believe I read that sec 8 was enough medication to 'insure an uninterrupted supply' not "only enough medication to treat your condition" or should we expect to see that next from your friends in LE??
gladstoned
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Does section 8 defense help a patient if he suffers from anxiety and the pot doctor who certified him keeps fucking with him on a grow forum?
What's it called when a doctor helps diagnose a patient, then later starts trying to hurt the patients recovery on purpose? I've been trying to figure this out.
Please help.