Synthetic seeds ? Interesting

Trousers

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Very interesting, thanks for the links.
Cannabis itself has pretty much eliminated the need for male plants, but synthetic seeds could be the biggest thing since feminized seeds.
 

TruenoAE86coupe

Moderator
Wow thats a lot to take in, lots of big words :dunce:
Anyhow this is a lot of good info, at very least for ways to store genetics. The synthetic seed confused me for a bit as i thought it was an encapsulated cannabis seed we are used to seeing, not actually a tissue culture.
Great stuff thanks for posting.
 

Jus Naturale

Active Member
Very, very interesting. Still, the very idea of it makes me a bit sick to the stomach. Unnatural; but science and life march on in lockstep.
 

Trousers

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Why would it make you sick? It is not genetic engineering, which I wouldn't have a problem with either.
They are basically clone seeds. They said there was no genetic variation on the resulting plants.
 

TruenoAE86coupe

Moderator
Really you would be ok with GMO cannabis?
I fear the day when they attempt this, but i am certain it will come.
And since they are not required to label GMO in the country, how are we to know???
 

Trousers

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Grow your own. Start making seeds?
I doubt there will be a problem obtaining good seed stock.

If they can make a variety of hemp that can grow with less water than it already takes, why not?
If they could make a variety of hemp that allowed two crops per growing season in colder climates, why not?
 

TruenoAE86coupe

Moderator
Many many reasons why, when you mess with the genetic make up of things you change them in ways that are unknown. I don't want Cannabis that increases your chance of cancer, heart problems, etc. I want Cannabis the way it was put here for us to enjoy, not modified.
Cross breeding can accomplish things like drought resistance etc, and hemp was very well cross bred for production many many years before prohibition ended the farming of hemp for industrial purposes.

On the no issue obtaining quality seed stock, how exactly do you plan on keeping your plants from being pollinated by the hemp plants that are going to be growing on large farms? Seeds may actually become harder to come by as more and more hemp is grown. We are all going to be in a battle to keep our "drug" cannabis from being crossed with hemp cannabis, getting seeded with low quality cross seeds.
 

NEEDMMASAP

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I worry that what I’ve seen happen to tomatoes and strawberries could happen to others including MM, they look really good , and if you didn’t plan on eating them it would probably be okay. I’m old enough to remember what they used to taste like and as the years went by it went from what looked like improvement to really ruining them . I don’t know enough about what they are doing with synthetic seeds but I do know that when they start messing with nature the outcome is always said to be good and then years later we realize it was bad .
When Colorado made MM legal did it in some way make Hemp legal ?
 

TruenoAE86coupe

Moderator
We did not make Medical Marijuana legal, we made Cannabis legal!!! Yes hemp is included in on this, for all the goods and bads that come with it. Should eventually be a boost to our economy though.
 

Trousers

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Many many reasons why, when you mess with the genetic make up of things you change them in ways that are unknown. I don't want Cannabis that increases your chance of cancer, heart problems, etc. I want Cannabis the way it was put here for us to enjoy, not modified.
Cross breeding can accomplish things like drought resistance etc, and hemp was very well cross bred for production many many years before prohibition ended the farming of hemp for industrial purposes.

On the no issue obtaining quality seed stock, how exactly do you plan on keeping your plants from being pollinated by the hemp plants that are going to be growing on large farms? Seeds may actually become harder to come by as more and more hemp is grown. We are all going to be in a battle to keep our "drug" cannabis from being crossed with hemp cannabis, getting seeded with low quality cross seeds.
Pollen will not be getting inside my grow.
I have seeds. I just found a film can full of seeds from the 1990s.
Good breeders will continue to keep producing good genetics.
There are landrace varieties all over the world.

I'm not worried about cannabis, it will be fine.
 

Bubbagineer

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I worry that what I’ve seen happen to tomatoes and strawberries could happen to others including MM, they look really good , and if you didn’t plan on eating them it would probably be okay. I’m old enough to remember what they used to taste like and as the years went by it went from what looked like improvement to really ruining them . I don’t know enough about what they are doing with synthetic seeds but I do know that when they start messing with nature the outcome is always said to be good and then years later we realize it was bad .
When Colorado made MM legal did it in some way make Hemp legal ?
From amendment 64 text.

"and requiring the general assembly to enact legislation governing the cultivation, processing, and sale of industrial hemp?"

a lot of folks don't realize it, but hemp grows wild in the Midwest along most any railroad line. I remember the first time I saw it, I stopped and nervously chopped a top and the ran back to the truck lol. Got freakin seeds all in my truck :dunce: .
 

420circuit

Active Member
I am not seeing any problem with this research and development. Safety and health concerns don't seem to be an issue, unless you get superstitious and are afraid that ANY change to the existing plant could harm you. We change stuff with plants and animals all the time and have been doing it for a very long time. This method, messing around with plant tissue, seems harmless enough, I really do not get why this could be bad. GMO is a 'word' that has been redefined recently to have a negative connotation. I love the idea that we (us) are so fucking good at growing that we can get right down to the genes of the plant to make improvements. I love the sweet corn that has been developed in the last 50 or so years, the food that is better bigger longer lasting juicier... What I am trying to convey is that you need to be careful to not be blind to progress. I admire the work being done and hope that the progress being made gets shared so growers can grow better.:peace::mrgreen::peace:
 

TruenoAE86coupe

Moderator
But don't be blind to the side effects of such products either. I am not some Vegan GMO-fear spreading nut, i have done my research and understand what can and has happened when we get into fucking with genes, rather than just cross breeding to increase what we want in our plants (sweet corn is a cross breed not gmo). And Genetically Modified Organism means the same it always has. I would love to know why someone felt it would be beneficial to cross the genes of a fish and a strawberry?
I truly feel the further we push our manipulation of Mother Nature, the worse things are going to get for man kind.... Just my .02 though, take all this as you want, but i am personally against GMO, especially when it doesn't have to be labeled. I certainly don't want them ruining cannabis for all of us.
 

NEEDMMASAP

Well-Known Member
From amendment 64 text.

"and requiring the general assembly to enact legislation governing the cultivation, processing, and sale of industrial hemp?"

a lot of folks don't realize it, but hemp grows wild in the Midwest along most any railroad line. I remember the first time I saw it, I stopped and nervously chopped a top and the ran back to the truck lol. Got freakin seeds all in my truck :dunce: .
That’s funny , I probably would have dried it and tried to smoke it , I remember when my uncle gave me a bunch of white pennies , told me to save them because they would be valuable some day , I went down and spent them to buy rolling paper for our corn silk , we thought we were cool smoking that corn silk , no wonder I’m so screwed up now .
 

Kite High

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Why would it make you sick? It is not genetic engineering, which I wouldn't have a problem with either.
They are basically clone seeds. They said there was no genetic variation on the resulting plants.
Its absolutely awesome...love a pheno lock that baby down in seed and pop whenever you want...I have no problem with any science it is the use and intent of use of the science result that sux sometimes. Hell yeah as I love the no mother/ clone idea. S1's are awesome and since making my own fems I do not clone any longer and my quality has gone up actually. These would be perfect.
Ang why not gmo? I can envision specific cannabinoid ratios for optimum desired high or medical purpose and trichomes the size of pencil erasers...Why the hell not? And all this natural stuff? When did man become not natural? So then our rearrangement of things is natural as well just people can't see it.
 

Kite High

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Many many reasons why, when you mess with the genetic make up of things you change them in ways that are unknown. I don't want Cannabis that increases your chance of cancer, heart problems, etc. I want Cannabis the way it was put here for us to enjoy, not modified.
Cross breeding can accomplish things like drought resistance etc, and hemp was very well cross bred for production many many years before prohibition ended the farming of hemp for industrial purposes.

On the no issue obtaining quality seed stock, how exactly do you plan on keeping your plants from being pollinated by the hemp plants that are going to be growing on large farms? Seeds may actually become harder to come by as more and more hemp is grown. We are all going to be in a battle to keep our "drug" cannabis from being crossed with hemp cannabis, getting seeded with low quality cross seeds.
Simple continue to grow in sealed environments like I already do. Sounds like the Church's arguments of the world is flat...
 

Kite High

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I worry that what I’ve seen happen to tomatoes and strawberries could happen to others including MM, they look really good , and if you didn’t plan on eating them it would probably be okay. I’m old enough to remember what they used to taste like and as the years went by it went from what looked like improvement to really ruining them . I don’t know enough about what they are doing with synthetic seeds but I do know that when they start messing with nature the outcome is always said to be good and then years later we realize it was bad .
When Colorado made MM legal did it in some way make Hemp legal ?
They have legalized the production of industrial hemp as well. So look for some gmo pollen floating your way soon. Thanx to Sam the rat Skunkman, Hortilab, and GW Pharma led by Montsanto.....
 

TruenoAE86coupe

Moderator
Simple continue to grow in sealed environments like I already do. Sounds like the Church's arguments of the world is flat...
We will see how sealed rooms really are won't we? I do not run a sealed room, and do not intend to, i have other plans for pollen eradication myself. But if you run a truly sealed room you will be fine, but i have not seen a single truly sealed room, ever. Honestly the good old positive pressure grow room will be a solution, but i am certain there will be gardens affected before we realize its time to go on lockdown.
 
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