Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread
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Cann
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i usually leave about 4'' of space when I initially fill my no-till pots. this will support a few topdressings before it gets close to filling up. also, the organic material in the pot seems to somehow disappear...I topdressed 2'' of EWC a few weeks ago, and at this point it just looks like the regular soil on top for the most part. it appears most of the EWC has been washed down into the pot, or somehow incorporated into the bulk of the soil without filling up the pot too much. i really have no idea how this works...but the pots never seem to fill up if you only topdresses once a cycle and no more than 2'' of EWC (should be plenty to replenish the soil). i know it seems kind of counterintuitive but.....
EDIT: and Rrog beat me to it lol. what he said
EDIT: and Rrog beat me to it lol. what he said
fattiemcnuggins
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I been leaving room, thanks for the good tips as usual rRog and cann.
Yeah I have 8 or so going, as well as pics of the nugs they come out of. really different kind of funk to it.
Yeah I have 8 or so going, as well as pics of the nugs they come out of. really different kind of funk to it.
fattiemcnuggins
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hey did someone mention a corn sprout tea if you don't have barley? or did I imagine it
Organic only please
GrowBrooklyn
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I recently made the switch from coco (w/ liquid organic nutes) to Super Soil (w/ water and AACT) and I have been pleased with the results. Now, after reading this topic, I'm thinking of adopting no-till techniques. I run a 3x3 tent with 3 gal pots, 4 at a time. I like to be able to rotate the pots and to take them out of the tent to more closely inspect the plant. For no-till, should I switch to the largest single Smart Pot that I can fit in the tent (65 gal) and give up being able to rotate, etc? Another option would be to use four 10 gal Smart Pots (16" diameter) or similar. I'm assuming my 3 gal pots are too small for this technique...
Rrog
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There's some bit of consensus that 15 gallon fabric pot is a minimum for no-till. I'm sure some excellent stuff has been done in less, but again, I'm relating a small group's thoughts on this. I'm starting a friend off with a no-till grow. Two 15 gallon Geopots. We may introduce clover for a month in between grows, to replenish some N and to avoid mono-cropping. Plant diversity / companion planting is a good thing.
We're also starting seeds in 2 gallon Velcro Geopots (very very handy thing, that velcro) and transplant after sexing. This'll be a short veg of 3 weeks
We're also starting seeds in 2 gallon Velcro Geopots (very very handy thing, that velcro) and transplant after sexing. This'll be a short veg of 3 weeks
sullivan666
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That's rad, man! Can you link me to the pics?
fattiemcnuggins
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You may be right on w that. 20 gal def outperforming the 5 gals. things need space to move around in there eh?
fattiemcnuggins
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https://www.rollitup.org/michigan-patients/638389-what-you-toking-10.html
pg 9 I think. nothing spectacular but definitely worth popping a few seeds.
fattiemcnuggins
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Cann
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yup. try peaceful valley. dutch white clover is good stuff..you also probably want to get the inoculated type because it comes with the proper rhizobium bacteria to assist with nitrogen fixation.
www.groworganic.com
i was also thinking about getting some mini nasturtiums to undersow....
www.groworganic.com
i was also thinking about getting some mini nasturtiums to undersow....
Cann
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emailed the dude, waiting for his response. the #44 bags are $30, so I imagine the price for #2000 is pretty reasonable. it is just rock after all lol
kushking42
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how do you sow the micro clover? just throw it down. or do you depress the seeds or cover them with mulch?
kushking42
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im sitting on several hundred pounds of rock phosphate that i dont know what to do with. placed that order before i really got into rols. i dont want to use it just to use it. i put a bout 10#'s per yard in all my containers last year, guess i can put some into the veggie beds. suggestions anyone?
sullivan666
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Looks real good! Thanks for the link! Do you have a journal going for the seeds you popped?
sullivan666
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Just put in my order at peaceful valley for white dutch and barley seed. 
And an order with rosemountain herbs for some yarrow and comfrey leaf, neem leaf powder, and can't forget the earl grey tea...
And an order with rosemountain herbs for some yarrow and comfrey leaf, neem leaf powder, and can't forget the earl grey tea...
Rising Moon
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If you notice, my pots are inoculated with worms, and microbes from high quality compost tea that I make, I also grow a green manure crop in between the cycles, or undersow clover during cycles. Plus take into account all the organic matter added, in the form of leaf mulch, and its hard to deny the loops are closing in...annual top dress? I doubt you could grow 4 plants in this container without re-amending
If I can do this outside in my garden (and have been for years..) I can do it inside as well.
And the herbal teas/foliar sprays I use buffer things quite a bit.