2 x ss sensi seeds 2 x 250w hps

alex69nos

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Hi everyone, i'm growing 2 Super Skunk and i'm at the third week of flowering stage..i've switched after one month of vegetative stage, they were growing always under a 250 HPS and now in the last 2 flowering weeks i added another 250 HPS.
I'm feeding them with Plagron Alga Bloom (7 ml in 2L of h20) and i'm having some trouble with some bud as you can see..but i think is coz the lamp was too much close now i've put it more high.
What do you guys think? :?

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Jozikins

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Damn, your lamp burned the ever loving shit out of that one top. I would probably cut off that top so it doesn't rot once the buds swell. Give us some more pictures of it, I don't want to give you bad advice. How close were your lamps and were they air cooled? And what type of hood are they in? You also need ca/mg. You can use molasses until you have time to go to the hydro store and get a supplement. That Alga stuff is organic, and I know for a fact that organic ca/mg buffers cannot go with synthetic or your mix will go rancid over night. I do not know if you can blend organic nutes with synthetic ca/mg though. I know GH has an organic Ca/Mg in their General Organics line up. You can top dress with Earth Worm Castings, they have a lot of calcium in them, it also has some mg in it which should hopefully be enough. EWC will help feed your plants and keep the soil bugs out as well! That plus the molasses should give you some strong and delicious plants.

You can also foliar spray with Epsom salts, make sure it is agricultural Epsom, I don't know what you have to do with regular Epsom to use it.


That Super Skunk is nothing but pure fire. Sensi Seeds truly offers only the highest quality genetics and have rigorous quality control. I can't wait until they focus more on OG genetics and start crossing it with their Skunks.
 

alex69nos

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The soil is a Bio Bizz All Mix...during veg i had some deficiency of nuts and so i've fed them with iguana juice.
U think tht i've to cut that buds??
Holy f****n s**t :o
 

Jozikins

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Bio Bizz All Mix, if I'm not mistaken that's a pretty hot mix right? Be careful with any additional supplements you use, start slow. Molasses you can always use full strength unless they aren't drinking, if plants stop drinking adding more molasses will rot your roots. And I believe Iguana Juice is Advanced Nutrients right? I just have a little experience with Advanced Nutrients, I don't like their advanced prices when they're no more advanced than the next reputable brand. Not hating on your decision, I'm sure it's a fantastic-working fertilizer.

One problem with liquid fertilizer companies is that the majority of them require you to have multiple supplements of the same brand. Whether this is for profit or because they find what works best is not stable in one bottle, and the cost can add up quickly. As an organic grower, your best bet is to start working on your own soil mixes. Alternatively, you can just follow subcool on the forum and look up his current Super Soil recipe. Something that is easy that you can start doing right away is making your own compost tea! Look it up here on RIU, Heisenberg Tea is a good one to search. Pour it on your plants and watch them go nuts!

The issue with using prebagged soils is that they will eventually deplete, not to mention they can carry pests. I've gotten everything from fungus gnats to spider mites in premixed soils. I now know to take home the soils, pour them out in a tub or a trash can, add water (and supplements at this point if you'd like to start spicing up your soils), mix and let sit for a month or two, the time it cooks depends on what supplements you put in your mix. Either way, this time makes sure all the bugs are dead, all the nutrients are readily available and not so hot. Most high quality soils you purchase are already cooked, but I've found several to be hot out of the bag and benefit from cooking, not to mention this kills all these damn bugs. If you amend with organic supplements cooking is mandatory, not optional.

As far as cutting the buds, it looks like it you might have to on just that extra-burnt nug. Post more pictures before doing so, I don't like to give that kind of advice unless I can be more certain. If you cut that burnt top, make sure it's a clean cut on the stem and try not to cut flower beneath your blade. The flowers beneath will swell into the big beautiful buds you're after, it won't be nearly as much loss in yield as rot would cause. You'll get two pine cones pointing in opposite directions at the top of the plant where you had to cut.

If you decide not to cut and the plant is too far burnt, your buds will swell until they encapsulate the dead plant tissue. The moisture will cause that dead plant tissue to rot as if it were in a petri dish within a dark room. Bortrytis is one of the absolute worst diseases that can affect the above-ground portion of your plant, worse diseases exist that effect only the roots. Bortrytis is also known as Grey Rot or Bud Rot, anything it infects or comes into contact with is destined for a garbage can. It spreads very fast and once it appears you typically have to chop everything down, scrub down your room and start over, salvage what you can and watch carefully while drying and curing.

I was very fortunate a few crops back. I got Bortrytis from all the rotting pumpkins left over from Halloween in my old apartment complex. I was in week 6 or 7 of a 7-8 week crop and mostly everything was ready. I was able to salvage 2/3 of a beautiful smoking crop. Unfortunately the main terminal of each plant was infected where it was thickest, so those were a lot of premium nugs lost, but that's often how it plays out. Either way, I had enough to vend to the local dispensaries to recover whatever I spent on the grow, and I had a decent amount to smoke until the next crop was ready.


But yeah, if you couldn't read alllll of that, just post more pictures.
 

alex69nos

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Bio Bizz All Mix, if I'm not mistaken that's a pretty hot mix right? Be careful with any additional supplements you use, start slow. Molasses you can always use full strength unless they aren't drinking, if plants stop drinking adding more molasses will rot your roots. And I believe Iguana Juice is Advanced Nutrients right? I have very little with Advanced Nutrients, I don't their advanced prices when their product is no more advanced than the next reputable brand. Not hating on what you're using, I'm sure it's fantastic.

One problem with liquid fertilizer companies is that the majority of them require you to have multiple supplements of the same brand. Whether this is for profit or because of if they find what works best is not stable in the same bottle, it can add up quickly. As an organic grower, your best bet is to start working on your own soil mixes. Alternatively you can just follow subcool on the forum and look up his current Super Soil recipe. Something easy that you can start doing right away is making your own compost tea! Look it up here on RIU, Heisenberg Tea is a good one to search. You can pour it on your plants and watch them go nuts!

The issue with using prebagged soils is that they will eventually deplete, not to mention they can carry pests. I've gotten everything from fungus gnats to spider mites in premixed soils. I now know to take home the soils, pour them out in a tub or a trash can, add water (and supplements at this point if you'd like to start spicing up your soils), mix and let sit for a month or two, the time it cooks depends on what supplements you put in their. Either way, this time makes sure all the bugs are dead, all the nutrients are readily available and not so hot. Most high quality soils you purchase are already cooked, but I've found several to be hot out of the bag and benefit from cooking, not to mention kills all these damn bugs. If you amend with organic supplements cooking is mandatory, not optional.

As far as cutting the buds, it looks like it on just that extra burnt one. Post more pictures before doing so, I don't wan't to give that kind of advice unless I can be more certain. If you cut that burnt top, make sure it's a clean cut on the stem and try not to cut flower beneath your blade. The flowers beneath will swell into the big beautiful buds you're after, it won't be nearly as much loss in yield as rot would cause. You'll get two pine cones pointing in opposite directions at the top of the plant.

If you do not cut and the plant is too far burnt, your buds will swell until the encapsulate the dead plant tissue. The moisture will cause that dead plant tissue to rot as if it were in a petri dish within a dark room. Bortrytis is one of the absolute worst diseases that can affect the above-ground portion of your plant, there are definitely worse diseases that effect only the roots. Bortrytis is also known as grey rot or bud rot, and anything it infects and comes into contact with is destined for a garbage can. It spreads very fast and once it appears you typically have to chop everything down, scrub down your room and start over, salvage what you can and watch carefully while drying and curing.


But yeah, if you couldn't read alllll of that, just post more pictures.
Yeah bro i had some experience with Botrytis i know is very dangerous and i even can't smoke tht s**t...regarding the pics this: https://www.rollitup.org/attachments/indoor-growing/2633730d1367086440-2-x-ss-sensi-seeds-20130427_195242.jpg is the pic of the most burned bud...there's only another burned bud but only a little...and is the apical bud! :o
 

Jozikins

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Tomorrow i'll post them...now the lamps are on...what yield do u think i've to expect?
Thanks for the answers
Couldn't possibly tell you boss, so many variables, I'd need a crystal ball. The Super Skunk is a pretty decent yielder.
 

Jozikins

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with 500w of HPS over your plants you can get a qp. But it all has to do with the health of the plants, the typical yields for the particular strain(s), the container size, and growing conditions. You have good lighting and you are using LST to compensate for your lack of light penetration. If this is your only hic up, and you are in 3-5 gal container size, I don't see any reason why you coudldn't pull 2-3 oz per plant. I don't see a mass of budsites, but I have no idea how much the Super Skunk will swell. I've grown Sensi's Skunk, but I've only seen the Super Skunk grow and tried the product, and the Skunk usually yields more than it looks like, I think I got 2.5 oz on her last time in a 3 or a 5 gal, I don't remember what size pot she was in. She was under 1200w (2x 600w) with a few Blue Dreams and a few of my own hybrid, Pakistani Punch.
 

alex69nos

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with 500w of HPS over your plants you can get a qp. But it all has to do with the health of the plants, the typical yields for the particular strain(s), the container size, and growing conditions. You have good lighting and you are using LST to compensate for your lack of light penetration. If this is your only hic up, and you are in 3-5 gal container size, I don't see any reason why you coudldn't pull 2-3 oz per plant. I don't see a mass of budsites, but I have no idea how much the Super Skunk will swell. I've grown Sensi's Skunk, but I've only seen the Super Skunk grow and tried the product, and the Skunk usually yields more than it looks like, I think I got 2.5 oz on her last time in a 3 or a 5 gal, I don't remember what size pot she was in. She was under 1200w (2x 600w) with a few Blue Dreams and a few of my own hybrid, Pakistani Punch.
Here u r some other pic of the burned buds...wht do u think??
 

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Jozikins

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Trim back all leaves that are burn brown until there is only green left, if they look like the buds will swallow up trimmed leaves when they swell, I would remove the entire leaf. Any calyx's that are burnt I would remove. If only the pistils are burnt, I wouldn't worry about trimming flowers. If calyx's are severely burnt, you may one to just amputate a portion of that top. I would hit up whodatnation, he has had this issue too. I would definitely take a second opinion before cutting.

Remember, this isn't a game killer for you, just a hiccup.
 
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