Is it worth growing bag seed?

CrownMeKing

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I've been holding onto two seeds I got from Attitude about two years ago, The Blue Hash didn't sprout and the Diesel did but she got fried in the sun while I took a nap. Haven't grown for over two years now and my skills are showing :wall:. Anyways I'm no longer interested in ordering seeds from overseas and since I don't live in a medical state it'll be pretty damn hard for me to get some feminized babies, and my connect for cuttings is iffy so I'd rather not take a chance. Anyways I bought all this FFOF and pots with nothing to put in them. Deciding about giving in and growing some bag seeds. What's your opinion on Feminized to Regular seeds? Do any of you grow bag seed every time? Just don't want to out in all this effort to get a male or worse...two :-(.
 

Thundercat

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Ya really your options seem limited, either grow or don't grow. Bag seed can turn out real nice if you grow it right. At one point most genetics were just some seeds found in killer bags!
 

jimdandy

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According to folklore, Chemdog came from bagseed! We all know the story now. Yes its worth growing bagseed. It is cannabis after all! Not knowing what youre growing can have its pros and cons. Pro it could be absolute fire! Con, It could be some long flowering Sativa that stretches to hell and needs 20 weeks to flower. That's just a few off the top of my head. I have a nice seed collections that includes, Regular, Fems, and bagseed from stuff I liked. I have one bunch that I got from a late friend that Ive already named in his honor. The weed was potent and very berry smelling. One of these days I may plant it.
 

Blazin Purps

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You should totally grow it out, one of my more favorite plants I grew out was from bag seed a year ago before took clones. I would give it a shot plus its your only option but at least you have 2
 

Jogro

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See my grow report on Mexican Schwagg, in my signature.

The quick answer is that it depends on the bag in question. But if you like what's in the bag, chances are good that you'll like plants grown from se-eds found in the bag.
 

tylerrrrr

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IMO I think so.

I have a bagseed growing right now and if all goes well I will be making her into some hash.


I have seen bagseed produce some potent bud in the right conditions.
 

RockyMtnMan

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grew bagseeds one time and they all hermied, but it was all the ceeds I had at the time so I finished them, and the smoke was killer.
I did end up with a few hundred more of those same ceeds, but never ran them again. lol
 

Dirf

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Yes. I got myself about a 3 month supply of weed growing 5 bag seed plants. The bud was actually pretty tasty and awesome because I dried and cured it. Personally I will continue to use Attitude seed bank, but if I had to I would grow with bag seed. I will post pics when I get home.
 

rippn13

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Hell yeah it's worth it. I always have a few bag seeds going and have come across some great stuff that way. 20+years ago that's how a lot of us got started. Just hand picked the good ones and went with it.

I ended up with something that was really close to Sensi-Star this winter from bag seed.
 

Galvatron

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some elite cuts have been found by growing bag seeds. chemdawg is one and the white is another. who knows, maybe youll find the next latest and greatest cut from your bag seed. good luck.
 

Jogro

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According to folklore, Chemdog came from bagseed! We all know the story now.
The story is that chemdawg came from "bagseed", but it sure as hell wasn't a random bag of cheap Mexican schwagg. If you believe the story (which is questionable), it came from a bag of privately grown top-dollar stuff.

Again, not all "bagseed" is created equal. Ceeds found in bags of high-end bud are likely to be the offspring of plants that went "hermie" due to stress or borderline genetics. These plants "could" be excellent, or they could be hermie prone (or both!).

If you're specifically talking about smuggled-in Mexican weed, there is actually a pretty wide variety of plants those can come from. Most "schwagg" contains mostly landrace Mexican sativa genetics, but a lot of the lines are hybridized now, and these can contain some Dutch/indica genetics mixed in, or even (supposedly) autoflower genetics. What in any individual bag is a crap shoot, and you don't really know what you're going to get until you try growing it.

Are these worth growing? I think they are. I've done this many times, and never finished one that I later thought was a waste of time.

I think the most important caveats here are that sativa-heavy genetics tend to stretch on flowering, and can take a long time to finish. If you are in a part of the country with early winter, and you end up with a long-flowering sativa, and you are growing OUTDOORS, the plants may not finish before frosts come.
 

silasraven

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bag seed is most likly shit. if you want to smoke shit grow bag seed. theres a big reason seeds are so pricey. its better to save up 100 and get a ton of fems and some cloning gel. one seed for starters then clone. please save yourself some time and allot of stress. buy seeds.
 

Jogro

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bag seed is most likly shit. if you want to smoke shit grow bag seed.
Have you ever even tried growing any? The Mexican grow ops don't use these genetics because they're "shit", they grow them out because the plants are tough as hell, heat and drought resistant, and provide decent potency even after being pressed into bricks, and shipped 3000 miles through 140 degree heat.

I'm not saying you're going to win the Denver Cannabis cup with these genetics, but trust me, you could definitely do a lot worse with many of the lower end commercial beans out there:







theres a big reason seeds are so pricey. its better to save up 100 and get a ton of fems and some cloning gel. one seed for starters then clone. please save yourself some time and allot of stress. buy seeds.
The ONLY reason ceeds are so pricey is because they're ILLEGAL. If they weren't illegal, drug cannabis ceeds wouldn't cost all that much more than hemp ceeds; ie a few dollars per POUND (not per ceed!).

And given that commercial ceeds are so pricey, there is something to be said about decent genetics you can get for FREE.

I don't disagree that if you have the ability to get commercial ceeds, you'll probably have better results, especially if you're a new grower. Again, sativa plants are meant for outdoor growth; they're stretchy and take a long time to finish. Commercial hybrid plants have been bred for indoor growth, plus if you select them wisely, you'll not only be assured of something good, but you'll also have a good idea what the plant will look like and its flowering time before you start.
 

KushKrew

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The story behind Chemdawg is that it was bred off seeds found in a bag of weed bought at a Grateful Dead concert by Chem (SkunkVA) himself. If Chemdawg hadn't planted those, we wouldn't have NYC Diesel, OG Kush, or any of the other 'fuel' smelling reefer that was ALL bred off the original Chemdawg. So a few pips from a quarter ounce of dank planted out and just look at the heritage those few pips have left. For a few seeds from a bag of weed, talk about blazing a trail!!!
Who knows, that bag-seed can be the best thing you ever smoke man ;)
 

KushKrew

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Oh btw, on the price of seeds... There's a company called Seedmakers.com, their gear is on the 'tude, 15 USD a ten-pack of fems. A mate of mine brought me some of their Critical knock-off which I grew out this summer... I think I should do a strain review on it, it was truly DANK, tasted like Big Buddha's Cheese but with a strong White Widow influence, nugs were MASSIVE and if I say DENSE I mean it, you could probably knock somebody out with it (I mean physically). I have a suspicion it's mostly Mr Nice genetics just re-branded. Woth a shot if you're on a tight budget!!!!
 

althor

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bag seed is most likly shit. if you want to smoke shit grow bag seed. theres a big reason seeds are so pricey. its better to save up 100 and get a ton of fems and some cloning gel. one seed for starters then clone. please save yourself some time and allot of stress. buy seeds.

Ignore this entire post by Silas.


If you BUY seeds, most of the time you will get what you pay for.
If you grow bag seeds, well you COULD end up with the next C99.
 

Jogro

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Ignore this entire post by Silas.

If you BUY seeds, most of the time you will get what you pay for.
If you grow bag seeds, well you COULD end up with the next C99.
The chance of you ending up with the "next" C99 from a bagseed is greatly increased if you're starting with a bag of C99!

Again, the results of a bagseed grow are almost entirely dependent on what's in that bag.

If your pull your ceed out of a bag of bricked Mexican schwagg you'll get one thing. . .it will probably be good in its own right, but its not going to be C99, or Chemdawg!. If you're starting with a ceed from a bag of sour diesel, you'll get something else (and maybe hermie prone).

One poster reported really good results from "bagseed" found in a bag of Green Crack. The ceeds in question were probably Green Crack S1. . .the same exact ceeds that Riot ceeds charges $23/bean for and Sickmeds $8. If your bean is from a bag of high end commercial stuff, chances are good that there is *someone* out there offering a similar S1 or F1 cross for $8-20 a bean, even if you don't know exactly what the genetics of your particular bagseed are.

On bean cost, I'd say there is a ROUGH correlation between bean quality and price, but its certainly not exact, and there are plenty of exceptions. For example, Sannies gear is relatively inexpensive, and by most reports, its as good as stuff costing 2x as much. Some of the more expensive genetics (eg Doggies Nuts, CropiCanna, Riot) are probably only really "worth" a fraction of the asking price based solely on the quality of the genetics.
 
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