indikat
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plenty o space fer two trees m8 what strain r u runnin?
The UK Growers Thread!
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jinky j
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ive cracked some tga jack the ripper and im buying 4 packs breeders boutique seeds this wkend, dippy ellsie, sycho killer, smelly cherry, southern charm, and i will pick 1 out of them but i will have to crack a few to find a mammy plant, ive got a shit load of seeds here but after reading this site for ages im defo getting some stuff out of the boutique as ive seen nothing but rave reviews and im 1 of those cunts thats always on seed pages going oh i want that and that and that but if im honest it will take me years to crack them all but am kinda addicted to buying pips now lol just to say ive got that sad i know but fuck it lol.
redeye jedi88
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can you tell ^^^^ is smoking crack
iiKode
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im the same, was sittin up all last night just woke up now 5 30 pm, see if the doctor will give me anything probably get fuckin baby vallies or summit, an ull get some zoppies or summit to put u out for days
Saerimmner
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Now go print that out, roll it up very tightly and the proceed to shove it up your arse before fucking off out of this thread rather fucking sharpish you fucking muggy spammer cunt!!!!
iiKode
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lmao, i know somone who has fuckin thousands of pill os the doctor, he gets disability or summit for anxiety and pills to help him sleep hes 23 never had a job cuz hes on sleepers and gambels his dole money.
iiKode
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on the east coast my waters ph is 7.2 dunno the ec, but in soil no need for ph realy anymore.
jinky j
Active Member
aye its good auld water up here in ecosse i have never ph'd my water but since its hydro i thought i might need to but every body that i know who grows hydro said dont waste yer time with the ph as its super soft water with no shite in it.
iiKode
Well-Known Member
iv got a 20L bucket use it for holding feed/water for the plants, but at the shop i got that bucket from they have even bigger ones with handles, ffs u dont need handels on em u need fuckin wheels.
iiKode
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the only time i will ph is if i add rhiz or summit that fucks the ph, i cant imagine a 10ph with rhizotonic doin any good so i lower it to 6-7
jinky j
Active Member
naw i think yer right, 10 on the ph would defo fuck up your plants lol i take it you use canna nutes.
iiKode
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nah i use biobizz, but i got some rhiz last grow made my ph go skyhigh, but yeas aslong as it ain 5 or 8 ph -+ i dont bother with it.
ANyone here tried DMT? watched a documentary onit last night, least to say it promoted my decision to go trippin out my balls thanks the the road, gonna do a bit more research before i try it though, these people told u about their trips sounds mad fun, deffo gonna have to get some of that, they said its a breakthrough since lsd, the documentary is on netflix, type in DMT it should come up.
new guysa who dont read back this is my last plant i done, doin 4 this round.
final weight dry was 3.7 oz, would have been aroun 4 1/2 if i never kept nickin bit aff it.
sorry a never got any harvest pics up, dont have a camera right now, just take pics when i got the chance (some poor cunts phone)
Hydrotech364
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☠\m/
jinky j
Active Member
that dmt sounds as mad as fuck lol i just read a wee bit there about it, your plant looks a good yin m8 what kind was it.
iiKode
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Nirvana master kush, only survivor so it grew to be a beast. heres what iv got going now.
x4 Big Buddah cheese fem, gonna add 4 more once i flip, for 4 reg seeds 12/12 from seed, 2 of each of these styrains, dippy ellsy and dog from bbthe plant top right is a day or 2 younger, than the rest, temps are a joke 250 hid, and im gettin 30c, so i opened the door for when the lights are on sits 28 now.
an aye man, wis watchin that doc last night, heard aboot it efore, this doc was mad, people were saying you get "there" you come out of the trip with a thousand years oh knowledge, not sure but that sounds handy to me, aye blind fold ursel then take it, apparently meant to be the best way to get into another realm, while staying in this reality psychically, just not on a conscious level. fuck knows man hard tea explain but a wouldna mind tryin it in a couple year, not gonnai touch anyfin like that till am over 20 am 19 in june so...
anywan care to help me on this, tried 5 white vallies the other night first time in ages i had vallies tried blues before fucked me up kinda, but i took 5 whiteys and nuffin, managed to stay up till 10am the next mornin wtf, did i take enough
Saerimmner
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[h=1]BREAKING: European Commission to criminalize nearly all seeds and plants not registered with government[/h]
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/040214_seeds_European_Commission_registration.html#ixzz2Tr7CsKnN
(NaturalNews) A new law proposed by the European Commission would make it illegal to "grow, reproduce or trade" any vegetable seeds that have not been "tested, approved and accepted" by a new EU bureaucracy named the "EU Plant Variety Agency."
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/040214_seeds_European_Commission_registration.html#ixzz2Tr6zhjpn
It's called the Plant Reproductive Material Law, and it attempts to put the government in charge of virtually all plants and seeds. Home gardeners who grow their own plants from non-regulated seeds would be considered criminals under this law.
The draft text of the law, which has already been amended several times due to a huge backlash from gardeners, is viewable here.
"This law will immediately stop the professional development of vegetable varieties for home gardeners, organic growers, and small-scale market farmers," said Ben Gabel, vegetable breeder and director of The Real Seed Catalogue. "Home gardeners have really different needs - for example they grow by hand, not machine, and can't or don't want to use such powerful chemical sprays. There's no way to register the varieties suitable for home use as they don't meet the strict criteria of the Plant Variety Agency, which is only concerned about approving the sort of seed used by industrial farmers."
[h=1]Virtually all plants, vegetable seeds and gardeners to eventually be registered by government[/h]All governments are, of course, infatuated with the idea of registering everybody and everything. Under Title IV of the proposed EU law:
Title IV Registration of varieties in national and Union registers
The varieties, in order to be made available on the market throughout the Union, shall be included in a national register or in the Union register via direct application procedure to the CVPO.
Gardeners must also pay fees to the EU bureaucracy for the registration of their seeds. From the proposed law text:
The competent authorities and the CPVO should charge fees for the processing of
applications, the formal and technical examinations including audits, variety denomination, and the maintenance of the varieties for each year for the duration of
the registration.
While this law may initially only be targeted at commercial gardeners, it sets a precedent to sooner or later go after home gardeners and require them to abide by the same insane regulations.
[h=1]Government bureaucracy gone insane[/h]"This is an instance of bureaucracy out of control," says Ben Gabel. "All this new law does is create a whole new raft of EU civil servants being paid to move mountains of papers round all day, while killing off the seed supply to home gardeners and interfering with the right of farmers to grow what they want. It also very worrying that they have given themselves the power to regulate and licence any plant species of any sort at all in the future - not just agricultural plants, but grasses, mosses, flowers, anything at all - without having to bring it back to the Council for a vote."
As a hint of the level of insane bureaucracy that gardeners and vegetable growers will be subject to under this EU law, check out this language from the proposed EU law:
Specific provisions are set out on the registration in the Union variety register and with regard to the possibility for the applicant to launch an appeal against a CPVO decision. Such provisions are not laid down for the registration in the national variety
registers, because they are subject to national administrative procedures. A new obligation for each national variety examination centre to be audited by the CPVO will be introduced with the aim to ensure the quality and harmonisation of the variety registration process in the Union. The examination centre of the professional operators will be audited and approved by the national competent authorities. In case of direct application to the CPVO it will audit and approve the examination centres it uses for variety examination.
Such language is, of course, Orwellian bureaucraticspeak that means only one thing: All gardeners should prepare to be subjected to total government insanity over seeds, vegetables and home gardens.
RealSeeds.co.uk warns about any attempt to actually try to understand the law by reading it:
You cannot just read the first 5 pages or so that are an 'executive summary', and think you know what this law is about. The executive summary is NOT what will become the law. It is the actual Articles themselves that become law, the Summary has no legal standing and is just tacked on as an aid to the public and legislators, it is supposed to give background information and set the proposed legislation in context so people know what is going on and why.
The problem with this law has always been that the Summary says lots of nice fluffy things about preserving biodiversity, simplifying legislation, making things easier etc - things we all would love - but the Articles of the law actually do completely the opposite. And the Summary is not what becomes the law.
For example, the Summary of drafts 1, 2 & 3 talked about making things easier for 'Amateur' varieties. But the entire class of Amateur vegetables - which we have spent 5 years working with DEFRA to register - was actually abolished entirely in the Articles right from the start. Yet the Summary , and press releases based on it, still talked about how it will help preserve Amateur varieties! The Summary is completely bogus. Do not base your views of the law on it!
So, be warned. By all means, read it yourself. But you have the ignore the Summary as that is not the Law, and does not reflect what is in the Law.
As you might suspect, this move is the "final solution" of Monsanto, DuPont and other seed-domination corporations who have long admitted their goal is the complete domination of all seeds and crops grown on the planet. By criminalizing the private growing of vegetables -- thereby turning gardeners into criminals -- EU bureaucrats can finally hand over full control of the food supply to powerful corporations like Monsanto.
[h=1]Most heirloom seeds to be criminalized[/h]Nearly all varieties of heirloom vegetable seeds will be criminalized under this proposed EU law. This means the act of saving seeds from one generation to the next -- a cornerstone of sustainable living -- will become a criminal act.
In addition, as Gabel explains, this law "...effectively kills off development of home-garden seeds in the EU."
This is the ultimate wish of all governments, of course: To criminalize any act of self-reliance and make the population completely dependent on monopolistic corporations for their very survival. This is true both in the USA and the EU. This is what governments do: They seize control, one sector at a time, year after year, until you are living as nothing more than a total slave under a globalist dictatorial regime.
An online petition has already been started on this issue and has garnered nearly 25,000 signatures so far.
NOAH'S ARK and 240 other organizations from 40 European countries have also initiated an "open letter" appealing to Brussels bureaucrats to stop the insanity. Click here for a translated version of their petition.
[h=1]I saw this coming[/h]By the way, I am on the record predicting this exact scenario. Read Chapter Three of my fiction book, "Freedom Chronicles 2026." (Read it FREE, online.) It depicts a seed smuggler living in a time when seeds are criminalized and people earn a living as professional seed smugglers.
In my book, a woman uses a specially-crafted breast prosthesis to smuggle seeds to "underground gardeners" in full defiance of laws crafted by Monsanto. A vast underground network of grassroots gardeners and scientists manage to put together a "seed weapon" to destroy GMOs and take back the food supply from evil corporations.
Mark my words: Seeds are about to become contraband. Anyone who grows their own food is about to be targeted as a criminal. The governments of the world, conspiring with corporations like Monsanto, do not want any individual to be able to grow their own food.
This is about total domination of the food supply and the criminalizing of gardeners. And this is what big government always does after centralizing sufficient power. All governments inherently seek total control over the lives of everyone, and if you don't set boundaries and limits for government (i.e. the Bill of Rights), it eventually runs roughshod over all freedoms and liberties, including the freedom to grow your own food.
Additional sources:
http://open-seeds.org/bad-seed-law/
http://www.realseeds.co.uk/seedlaw.html
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/040214_seeds_European_Commission_registration.html#ixzz2Tr7CsKnN
(NaturalNews) A new law proposed by the European Commission would make it illegal to "grow, reproduce or trade" any vegetable seeds that have not been "tested, approved and accepted" by a new EU bureaucracy named the "EU Plant Variety Agency."
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/040214_seeds_European_Commission_registration.html#ixzz2Tr6zhjpn
It's called the Plant Reproductive Material Law, and it attempts to put the government in charge of virtually all plants and seeds. Home gardeners who grow their own plants from non-regulated seeds would be considered criminals under this law.
The draft text of the law, which has already been amended several times due to a huge backlash from gardeners, is viewable here.
"This law will immediately stop the professional development of vegetable varieties for home gardeners, organic growers, and small-scale market farmers," said Ben Gabel, vegetable breeder and director of The Real Seed Catalogue. "Home gardeners have really different needs - for example they grow by hand, not machine, and can't or don't want to use such powerful chemical sprays. There's no way to register the varieties suitable for home use as they don't meet the strict criteria of the Plant Variety Agency, which is only concerned about approving the sort of seed used by industrial farmers."
[h=1]Virtually all plants, vegetable seeds and gardeners to eventually be registered by government[/h]All governments are, of course, infatuated with the idea of registering everybody and everything. Under Title IV of the proposed EU law:
Title IV Registration of varieties in national and Union registers
The varieties, in order to be made available on the market throughout the Union, shall be included in a national register or in the Union register via direct application procedure to the CVPO.
Gardeners must also pay fees to the EU bureaucracy for the registration of their seeds. From the proposed law text:
The competent authorities and the CPVO should charge fees for the processing of
applications, the formal and technical examinations including audits, variety denomination, and the maintenance of the varieties for each year for the duration of
the registration.
While this law may initially only be targeted at commercial gardeners, it sets a precedent to sooner or later go after home gardeners and require them to abide by the same insane regulations.
[h=1]Government bureaucracy gone insane[/h]"This is an instance of bureaucracy out of control," says Ben Gabel. "All this new law does is create a whole new raft of EU civil servants being paid to move mountains of papers round all day, while killing off the seed supply to home gardeners and interfering with the right of farmers to grow what they want. It also very worrying that they have given themselves the power to regulate and licence any plant species of any sort at all in the future - not just agricultural plants, but grasses, mosses, flowers, anything at all - without having to bring it back to the Council for a vote."
As a hint of the level of insane bureaucracy that gardeners and vegetable growers will be subject to under this EU law, check out this language from the proposed EU law:
Specific provisions are set out on the registration in the Union variety register and with regard to the possibility for the applicant to launch an appeal against a CPVO decision. Such provisions are not laid down for the registration in the national variety
registers, because they are subject to national administrative procedures. A new obligation for each national variety examination centre to be audited by the CPVO will be introduced with the aim to ensure the quality and harmonisation of the variety registration process in the Union. The examination centre of the professional operators will be audited and approved by the national competent authorities. In case of direct application to the CPVO it will audit and approve the examination centres it uses for variety examination.
Such language is, of course, Orwellian bureaucraticspeak that means only one thing: All gardeners should prepare to be subjected to total government insanity over seeds, vegetables and home gardens.
RealSeeds.co.uk warns about any attempt to actually try to understand the law by reading it:
You cannot just read the first 5 pages or so that are an 'executive summary', and think you know what this law is about. The executive summary is NOT what will become the law. It is the actual Articles themselves that become law, the Summary has no legal standing and is just tacked on as an aid to the public and legislators, it is supposed to give background information and set the proposed legislation in context so people know what is going on and why.
The problem with this law has always been that the Summary says lots of nice fluffy things about preserving biodiversity, simplifying legislation, making things easier etc - things we all would love - but the Articles of the law actually do completely the opposite. And the Summary is not what becomes the law.
For example, the Summary of drafts 1, 2 & 3 talked about making things easier for 'Amateur' varieties. But the entire class of Amateur vegetables - which we have spent 5 years working with DEFRA to register - was actually abolished entirely in the Articles right from the start. Yet the Summary , and press releases based on it, still talked about how it will help preserve Amateur varieties! The Summary is completely bogus. Do not base your views of the law on it!
So, be warned. By all means, read it yourself. But you have the ignore the Summary as that is not the Law, and does not reflect what is in the Law.
As you might suspect, this move is the "final solution" of Monsanto, DuPont and other seed-domination corporations who have long admitted their goal is the complete domination of all seeds and crops grown on the planet. By criminalizing the private growing of vegetables -- thereby turning gardeners into criminals -- EU bureaucrats can finally hand over full control of the food supply to powerful corporations like Monsanto.
[h=1]Most heirloom seeds to be criminalized[/h]Nearly all varieties of heirloom vegetable seeds will be criminalized under this proposed EU law. This means the act of saving seeds from one generation to the next -- a cornerstone of sustainable living -- will become a criminal act.
In addition, as Gabel explains, this law "...effectively kills off development of home-garden seeds in the EU."
This is the ultimate wish of all governments, of course: To criminalize any act of self-reliance and make the population completely dependent on monopolistic corporations for their very survival. This is true both in the USA and the EU. This is what governments do: They seize control, one sector at a time, year after year, until you are living as nothing more than a total slave under a globalist dictatorial regime.
An online petition has already been started on this issue and has garnered nearly 25,000 signatures so far.
NOAH'S ARK and 240 other organizations from 40 European countries have also initiated an "open letter" appealing to Brussels bureaucrats to stop the insanity. Click here for a translated version of their petition.
[h=1]I saw this coming[/h]By the way, I am on the record predicting this exact scenario. Read Chapter Three of my fiction book, "Freedom Chronicles 2026." (Read it FREE, online.) It depicts a seed smuggler living in a time when seeds are criminalized and people earn a living as professional seed smugglers.
In my book, a woman uses a specially-crafted breast prosthesis to smuggle seeds to "underground gardeners" in full defiance of laws crafted by Monsanto. A vast underground network of grassroots gardeners and scientists manage to put together a "seed weapon" to destroy GMOs and take back the food supply from evil corporations.
Mark my words: Seeds are about to become contraband. Anyone who grows their own food is about to be targeted as a criminal. The governments of the world, conspiring with corporations like Monsanto, do not want any individual to be able to grow their own food.
This is about total domination of the food supply and the criminalizing of gardeners. And this is what big government always does after centralizing sufficient power. All governments inherently seek total control over the lives of everyone, and if you don't set boundaries and limits for government (i.e. the Bill of Rights), it eventually runs roughshod over all freedoms and liberties, including the freedom to grow your own food.
Additional sources:
http://open-seeds.org/bad-seed-law/
http://www.realseeds.co.uk/seedlaw.html
fuk reading all that bollox, rimmer, il just wait for sambo or that old tw@ don to summerise
anyone know what its called or wer i can buy that vanner stuff u get on furniture? boxing all me shit up, its a rather daunting task moving, spe wen u have acumulated as much as us,
but the council have rung and house inspection is tomoz, the rooms gone so im not arsed, was standing on my landing otherday at 4am heart racing lips tingling with the anxiousness of the thought of mooving,
ffs
anyone know what its called or wer i can buy that vanner stuff u get on furniture? boxing all me shit up, its a rather daunting task moving, spe wen u have acumulated as much as us,
but the council have rung and house inspection is tomoz, the rooms gone so im not arsed, was standing on my landing otherday at 4am heart racing lips tingling with the anxiousness of the thought of mooving,
ffs
iiKode
Well-Known Member
basically says, any plant being produced by a person that has not been/come froma testing facility or bred from seeds, tested in a facility, then you cannot grow it, its illegal to grow veggie seeds that you bred urself, ur not alout to give ur seeds away ur not aloud to grow ur seeds, good thing i use cannabis seeds as souvenirs.
Saerimmner
Well-Known Member
yup basically, does make me wonder though if the same will happen with weed seeds i.e. resellers like attitude only being allowed to sell strains in the Uk that have been agreed by the UK government( which of course will be none)
jinky j
Active Member
going good there m8 and im gonna get a few batches of breeders b seeds aswell they look fuckin bangin m8, what time does your lights comw on at and are they 18/6 or 24/0, and as for all that 5 senses stuff im into aw that but its a heed pickler. and the whites are 2mg the yella's are 10mg and the blues are bad news lol but there 20's if i remember right, fuck me the suede shoes are fuckin crazy ive done mad shit on them fae stealing anything tae choppin ma m8 as i said there bad fuckin news well only if you take 20 et a time and down a bottle of buckie or md 20/20 lol, fucking hell im getting flash bks fae aw the stupid shit i done years ago on them as i said m8 i was hooked on them for about 10 years fae aboot 16 tae 26 and then i just stopped them and then i started taking fits and shit cause i stopped taking them to quik as your meant to ween yourself aff them but nae cunt told me that it also took months tae straighten up completely slurring ma speach like a fuckin jakey bastard lol, ahhhh thank fuck im sensible now lol