Harper Government Announces New Medical Marihuana Regualtions June 19, 2013

buckets

buckets

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Before you bite my head off. I was thinking about this more and I would also allow peopple that have been successful in their lives. Gold medals, movie sucess, entrepeneurs. My bottom line is that we all bitch about the scum that gravitate into politics but how to we get rid of them? How do we attract better people into these roles. If you have any ideas I am all ears. But something in my opinion needs to be done. My generation, generation X said we will change the wolrd. Where are they now? Nothing or I should say very little has changed. If we don't make changes then our future will also be the same as our past in my opinion.
 
OGEvilgenius

OGEvilgenius

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The first sentence out of the woman's mouth is two faced as fuck. In other words, we heard the ruling, we're gonna ignore it! Fuck you MMJ patients. My scrip will only cost me 1500 a month. That's totally reasonable.

Anyway, I'm not stopping. They can have fun taking my 2 600 watters to court.

"While the courts have said that there must be reasonable access to a legal source of marihuana for medical purposes, we believe that this must be done in a controlled fashion in order to protect public safety,"

 
OGEvilgenius

OGEvilgenius

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buckets said:
Before you bite my head off. I was thinking about this more and I would also allow peopple that have been successful in their lives. Gold medals, movie sucess, entrepeneurs. My bottom line is that we all bitch about the scum that gravitate into politics but how to we get rid of them? How do we attract better people into these roles. If you have any ideas I am all ears. But something in my opinion needs to be done. My generation, generation X said we will change the wolrd. Where are they now? Nothing or I should say very little has changed. If we don't make changes then our future will also be the same as our past in my opinion.
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Scum bags are attracted to positions of power and control. Take away the power. It's the only solution.
 
buckets

buckets

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so we vaporize all humanity and then we have the solution. As long as we have humans we'll have this struggle for power. We are a tribal entity.
 
OGEvilgenius

OGEvilgenius

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buckets said:
so we vaporize all humanity and then we have the solution. As long as we have humans we'll have this struggle for power. We are a tribal entity.
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No, as long as we decide that creating institutions of absolute power is a smart thing to do, we're going to continually be fucked.

We may just be fucked period, in all honesty. I have little hope for our future.
 
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ditrbag1

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The last several posts re: power and corruption etc... are exactly why I am not going to entertain any of this licensed producer madness, it's just more "sand in the vaseline" that the government is fucking us with, am I going to bend over backwards, spend a ton of cash to be able to produce quality cannabis for people, I don't fucking think so. I've said it before and I'll say it again, this is another classic Canadian govt move to frustrate the people into doing absolutely nothing, (and keep down the "evil weed"). I will be producing illegally when my PUPL becomes nullified, the only thing that will change is my plant count, it will be going to 200. At that point in time I will be looking at 6 mos. jail time under the new omnibus bill anyways. I believe in the old saying by Thomas Jefferson that: "If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so."
 
buckets

buckets

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That's one way to go about doing things. Sending you energy so you don't get caught. But if you did get caught I wonder if you could challenge it in court because it's to expensive to get it from a commercial grower.
 
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Zantor5

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I agree that it's terrible that the Gov't Is taking away the right to personal grows; it seems like most of the legalized states have a system that allows for both personal production and commercial production, and that makes sense. The people in charge need to stop trying to outlaw things that can't be effectively controlled; if this thread proves anything, it's that people are still going to grow, even after the MMAR is gone.
That being said, there is probably a place for conscientious LP's in Canada. A lot of people are concerned about the cost, but I know some LP's won't be going right to the $8.80 a gram government predicted price. JWC, an ontario based group of Growers and patients under the MMAR have said they will have some strains that are way under that price. They've also said they want to start a strain amnesty program, buying genetics from MMAR patients so they don't have to lose their favourite strains. Just because the system is a bad idea doesn't mean everyone who operates under it are going to be crooks.

You should check them out;

http://www.jwcannabis.ca/
 
buckets

buckets

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Thanks for telling us that Zantor5! It's good to know that the commercial growers at least some of them won't be out to rip us off.
 
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http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/ahc-asc/media/nr-cp/_2013/2013-79-eng.php

TTAWA - Today, the Honourable Leona Aglukkaq, Minister of Health, announced new regulations that will change the way Canadians access marihuana for medical purposes. The new Marihuana for Medical Purposes Regulations (MMPR) will be published in the Canada Gazette, Part II, on June 19, 2013. "While the courts have said that there must be reasonable access to a legal source of marihuana for medical purposes, we believe that this must be done in a controlled fashion in order to protect public safety," said Minister Aglukkaq. "These changes will strengthen the safety of Canadian communities, while making sure patients can access what they need to treat serious illnesses."
Since its introduction in 2001, Health Canada's Marihuana Medical Access Program (MMAP) has grown exponentially, from under 500 authorized persons to over 30,000 today. This rapid increase has had unintended consequences for public health, safety and security as a result of allowing individuals to produce marihuana in their homes. Under the new regulations, production will no longer take place in homes and municipal zoning laws will need to be respected, which will further enhance public safety.
The new Marihuana for Medical Purposes Regulations aim to treat marihuana as much as possible like other narcotics used for medical purposes. The regulations will provide access to quality-controlled marihuana for medical purposes, produced under secure and sanitary conditions, to those Canadians who need it.
The regulations will also streamline the process for applicants and health care practitioners. Under the new regime, individuals will not be required to provide personal medical information to Health Canada. Health care practitioners will be able to sign a medical document enabling patients to purchase the appropriate amount related to their conditions directly from a Licensed Producer approved by Health Canada.
In order to facilitate the transition from the current program to the new regime, both will operate concurrently until March 31, 2014. Effective April 1, 2014, Health Canada will no longer produce and distribute marihuana for medical purposes. The current Marihuana Medical Access Regulations (MMAR) will be repealed on March 31, 2014, when the new regime is fully implemented. Additional information on key dates will be provided to program participants and other stakeholders throughout the transition period.
For a copy of the new regulations in advance of the June 19 publication date, please email: [email protected].
 
kingleroyone

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i think 3 to 5 yrs till its dead thats it. Its fucking government for them to be on time for a policy change, we all see the news and shit look how long it took them with the long gun regestry and then they canceled it. HEATH CANADA THEY DONOT MAKE THE LAWS JUST POLICYS.....wait and see,and grow away the day.
 
buckets

buckets

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I sure hope that you're right man. Will trudeau have enough brains to figure out a better policy? Only time will tell. And the other players if there are any?
 
ricky1lung

ricky1lung

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IMO the laws are only changing to allow industry to gain a foot hold on the market.

So what happens when the monopoly is created?
Will the current amount of medical users be enough to keep share holders
happy? Will they then lobby for greater access to emerging markets or will
they lobby to expand the market here at home.

These laws are not for the people who need the meds, the changes are for
white collars to make huge profits.
 
Highocaine

Highocaine

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ricky1lung said:
IMO the laws are only changing to allow industry to gain a foot hold on the market.

These laws are not for the people who need the meds, the changes are for
white collars to make huge profits.
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Yup. The "security" thing is such a convenient guise under which to hide. There is far more illegal distribution than theft of legal crops... if they'd just legalize recreationally, there'd be more positive change. If the end user (of the illegally distributed weed, assumedly non-patient) had an easy, legal, affordable route of getting high, they'd more likely take it than not (unless they are sufficiently close/involved with the black market - a market that could well crumble if the profit is devalued enough).

Another thing... electricity. MMPR grows are all indoor! Greenhouses are iffy at the best. Why can't lonely old Joe the farmer out in Buttfuck, Nowhere save a little coin (and the earth) by using sunlight!? If you have to have dedicated QR personnel, won't they catch the supposed lower-quality product? And be able to pass the stuff they find no problems with?

It's a simple and clear example of "if you can't beat 'em, monopolize the fuck out of everything."
 
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