People who call themselves "hunters"

Cowboykush

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I deer hunt,bird hunt, wild hog & fish & can say i love it. I've never killed anything that was not used for food.It isnt the thrill of killin its the sense of being closer to nature. Raise my own beef & pork also, which i find harder to kill. I know not everybody agrees with this nor do i think they should.
 

Padawanbater2

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I deer hunt,bird hunt, wild hog & fish & can say i love it. I've never killed anything that was not used for food.It isnt the thrill of killin its the sense of being closer to nature. Raise my own beef & pork also, which i find harder to kill. I know not everybody agrees with this nor do i think they should.
Do you notice a difference in the taste/texture/quality of wild food compared to food you would buy in the supermarket?
 

Dislexicmidget2021

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My source is flawed because you say so? All of the information is accurate. You are attacking my source when the information is correct. If not, prove them wrong.
No its not strictly because I say so.You assume and believe that the entirety of this information is 100% correct in your assertions.Just that alone tells me you are a fool.Where are all of the documents of tests in which they gather this information?In what manner do they organize all of there statements and claims into fact?This site also includes alot of biased opinions basicaly pointing towrds meat is the devil and vegetables are the way toward mankind living on forever.Its flawed IMO.
 

jtprin

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http://www.livescience.com/24875-meat-human-brain.html

Vegetarian, vegan and raw diets can be healthy — likely far healthier than the typical American diet. But to continue to call these diets "natural" for humans, in terms of evolution, is a bit of a stretch, according to two recent, independent studies.
Eating meat and cooking food made us human, the studies suggest, enabling the brains of our prehuman ancestors to grow dramatically over a period of a few million years.
- See more at: http://www.livescience.com/24875-meat-human-brain.html#sthash.hGwQ9yL7.dpuf
From your own article "From health to the environment, there are many reasons to go vegetarian, go vegan and even go raw, but evolution isn't one of them". What point are you trying to make? How does this prove that humans are designed to eat meat. Maybe meat did help develop our brains, how does that refute anything though? Again, even your own article encourages going raw and vegan.
 

GreatwhiteNorth

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Earlier a poster provided the comparison of ocular placement on the head.

Herbivores have eyes on the sides allowing a much wider view, where-as carnivores have them in the front for pursuing prey.
Care to comment ?
 

curious2garden

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......snip.......That changes absolutely nothing about human physiology being herbivorous.
Before you shove your hoof any further down your crop or into one of your ruminant stomachs you may wish to try the Adventist Health System studies. Assuming you would like to actually learn something about the diet you are espousing.

It's a diet not a religion so stop the proselytizing. We are apex predators we can eat anything we want. We have the tools LOL!

Science, it does a body good.
 

jtprin

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No its not strictly because I say so.You assume and believe that the entirety of this information is 100% correct in your assertions.Just that alone tells me you are a fool.Where are all of the documents of tests in which they gather this information?In what manner do they organize all of there statements and claims into fact?This site also includes alot of biased opinions basicaly pointing towrds meat is the devil and vegetables are the way toward mankind living on forever.Its flawed IMO.
It's BASIC PHYSIOLOGY, it doesn't require studies. Why are we physiologically similar to herbivores and not carnivores if we are carnivores? Why do humans need weapons to catch their prey? Because they cannot physically do it themselves. Why do vegetarians live longer? Perhaps partly because they don't eat meat, which puts a hell of a lot more strain on your system than fruits, veggies, sprouted nuts and seeds, etc.
 

jtprin

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Before you shove your hoof any further down your crop or into one of your ruminant stomachs you may wish to try the Adventist Health System studies. Assuming you would like to actually learn something about the diet you are espousing.

It's a diet not a religion so stop the proselytizing. We are apex predators we can eat anything we want. We have the tools LOL!

Science, it does a body good.
So why is your life more valuable than an animals again? If someone killed your family member and ate them, what's the difference between that and what happens to billions of animals each year?
 

NietzscheKeen

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Before you shove your hoof any further down your crop or into one of your ruminant stomachs you may wish to try the Adventist Health System studies. Assuming you would like to actually learn something about the diet you are espousing.

It's a diet not a religion so stop the proselytizing. We are apex predators we can eat anything we want. We have the tools LOL!

Science, it does a body good.
Those God... Damn... Adventists, lol.
And like I said the other day, Veganism is like a religion to some.
And Curious2Garden saw my penis and liked it.
 

Dislexicmidget2021

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It's BASIC PHYSIOLOGY, it doesn't require studies. Why are we physiologically similar to herbivores and not carnivores if we are carnivores? Why do humans need weapons to catch their prey? Because they cannot physically do it themselves. Why do vegetarians live longer? Perhaps partly because they don't eat meat, which puts a hell of a lot more strain on your system than fruits, veggies, sprouted nuts and seeds, etc.
First,, we are OMNIVORES .Humans have the cognitive ability to craft tools and devices to achieve what we normaly cannot otherwise,, as I have stated before.With a well balanced diet of both you could be just as healthy, if not more so than the vegan,did you rule that out as well?
 

jtprin

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A higher level on conciousness. That's my thought on it. It's noble to be vegan, it loses it's nobility when you swing it around like a religious zealot.
It's just a simple question for people who do eat meat. A higher level of consciousness means humans are more valuable than all the rest of life on Earth? You do realize that without many of them, humans wouldn't be around. Plants may not have a consciousness but they sure as hell are vital to human survival, no?
 

jtprin

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First,, we are OMNIVORES .Humans have the cognitive ability to craft tools and devices to achieve what we normaly cannot otherwise,, as I have stated before.With a well balanced diet of both you could be just as healthy, if not more so than the vegan,did you rule that out as well?
Right, and they can also produce fast food... doesn't make it healthy. We can create chemically filled foods w/ preservatives and plant gmo's too, again, it doesn't make it healthy or change our physiology.
 

kinetic

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You do realize that your ancestors supplemented their diet with meat which allowed your brain to evolve into having the capacity to have the thoughts, observations and inventions that we do.

I get the web of life, not seeing it as a pyramid with us on top. You have to understand the human experience is varied greatly with how it can be expereinced. Your standing on the shoulders of people who ate meat for 2.5 million years. I'm sure you refused to read the last link I put up explaining any of it.
 

NietzscheKeen

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:wall: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ! :wall:
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jtprin

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You do realize that your ancestors supplemented their diet with meat which allowed your brain to evolve into having the capacity to have the thoughts, observations and inventions that we do.

I get the web of life, not seeing it as a pyramid with us on top. You have to understand the human experience is varied greatly with how it can be expereinced. Your standing on the shoulders of people who ate meat for 2.5 million years. I'm sure you refused to read the last link I put up explaining any of it.
And now that our brains have evolved to where they are now, we know that eating meat isn't the healthiest way to live. It also causes a lot of suffering to other life on Earth.
 
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