"breaking" your stems?

NewGrowth

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Its possible I don't super crop myself so I don't know firsthand. I do know people who do it due to limited space and they get higher yield by doing it rather than not.
 

smokertoker

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From my last plant the bud was above the busted up areas of the stem. I'll let you know my final weight per plant from these beautiful girls. Prob going to put them into flowering this weekend or next.
 

ganjagoddess

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Without control though your data on yeild will mean nothing.

I equate this to the theory of "stem Splitting" or "Nail Splitting"

I took the following exerts from the following webpages:

totse.com | The Marijuana Grower's Guide

"
Tacks and Nails
Some growers hammer nails or tacks into the stems of plants several weeks before harvest. Many growers use long thick nails; others prefer to use several half-inch-long tacks. The nails are usually placed at the base of the stem. This is supposed to "increase potency." {Figure 72. Wilted plant. Unless watered it will die.}


Stem Splitting
This is a popular way to stress used by cultivators in the United States. The stem is split (not cut) at the base to from a space through the stem. Growers place a rock, small piece of wood, an old Cannabis stem, or piece of opium (in Africa) in the split. Sometimes the wound is bound with cloth or plastic. We don't recommend this procedure, and advise you to be careful not to kill the plants and ruin the harvest."
http://users.lycaeum.org/%7Esky/data/grow/c15.html
 

NewGrowth

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Without control though your data on yeild will mean nothing.

I equate this to the theory of "stem Splitting" or "Nail Splitting"

I took the following exerts from the following webpages:

totse.com | The Marijuana Grower's Guide

"
Tacks and Nails
Some growers hammer nails or tacks into the stems of plants several weeks before harvest. Many growers use long thick nails; others prefer to use several half-inch-long tacks. The nails are usually placed at the base of the stem. This is supposed to "increase potency." {Figure 72. Wilted plant. Unless watered it will die.}


Stem Splitting
This is a popular way to stress used by cultivators in the United States. The stem is split (not cut) at the base to from a space through the stem. Growers place a rock, small piece of wood, an old Cannabis stem, or piece of opium (in Africa) in the split. Sometimes the wound is bound with cloth or plastic. We don't recommend this procedure, and advise you to be careful not to kill the plants and ruin the harvest."
http://users.lycaeum.org/%7Esky/data/grow/c15.html
I have to agree with GG here informed skeptics think alike :peace:
 

ganjagoddess

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Im here to healthy - i -ly debate growing techniques and come to informed conclusions, not to say Im right your wrong.

A good scientist calls everything a theory until the hypothesis is proven correct with unfallable data, that can be repeated with sucess by piers.
 

ganjagoddess

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Noted...I'll give it a go on me next round of plants, thanks for discussing this growing technique with me.

BTW for my reference you do this in flowering or veg only, or both?
 

brendon420

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im reading the marijuana cultivation bible and there is an 'equation' in this book that say

Bigger Stems = Bigger Plant = Bigger Buds
 

ganjagoddess

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Does it say anything about purposlely Pinching the stem to get it to have to heal into a bigger stem, while possibly disrupting both energy use from the plant to heal, while increasing chance of shock, and possible Pheloem flow disruption?

No it doesnt, but thanks for the input of the obvious, buddddyyy.
 

brendon420

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as it states
Simulating wind by providing a gentle breeze will help your
stem grow strong to support the weight of the leaves and buds as the
wind will cause small tears in the plants stem walls, tears that are
repaired as the plant grows and provide strength to the main stem.
Bigger, stronger stems = bigger, stronger plant = more & better buds.

i guess the same concept can be applied to super cropping yes??? no??? where is your 'evidence' twoard your 'theory'?
 

ganjagoddess

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as it states
Simulating wind by providing a gentle breeze will help your
stem grow strong to support the weight of the leaves and buds as the
wind will cause small tears in the plants stem walls, tears that are
repaired as the plant grows and provide strength to the main stem.
Bigger, stronger stems = bigger, stronger plant = more & better buds.
So in essesence and by comparision

a human being can gain Really good strong muscles without impeding blood flow by ripping his muscles slightly off his bone but still atached and applying stem cells to fill the gap(s), as opposed to microscopic tears that are part of the NATURAL muscle building process.
 
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brendon420

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how can you compare 'ripping a persons muscles off' to pinching stems that are still completely attached? and i cant answer your question you might want to ask someone who has an idea about stem cells, this is a marijuana forum and chill out i thought you werent about being right?
 

ganjagoddess

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Its just a rebuttal buddy, didnt mean for you to get all but hurt. hahah

I mentioned stem cells in the Anology because in essence a plant has the capability to fill in the gaps created by the seperation method of "breaking" your stems.

Simply a anology. ya know.

And again to the OP, I am wondering for my reference you do this in Veg, flower, both, none?
 

brendon420

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and you do it in the vegitation stage , and at least 2 weeks before flowering, you want all the attention on flower creation...but what do i know
 

PowerTrance

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I've seen that you take a screw and literally screw it into the base of your main stem to get that main stem fatter... then you can only imagine how fat it could get... And, for that matter there isn't a big diffference between screwing, pinching stems, or tieing them down... LST... which can still happen well into flowering... what one could do is use a planet ito light schedule (FAQ) to increase time gathering energy to compensate for the unnatural stress of pinching, tieing, or otherwise abusing your plants to achieve greater yields. The healing hormones kick in and give the plant some extra juices to play with.. what's wrong with that? So it may take your girls a few more days, but the potency and or yield may be greater if you do.. why not frackin' try...
 
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