Open Show & Tell , Outdoors 2013

[socaljoe]

I just got home a while ago and decided to check on my plant. I went out, looked her over, then noticed something wrong with a couple leaves...looks like something has been munching on it. Well, sure as shit, there's a little bastard caterpillar making himself at home. Glad I've got the BT coming, just gonna have to hunt them down the old fashioned way until then *squish*.

 

[pmt62382]

sour kush

 

[ambedexteras]

hey guys quick update action.
4 pics, 1 monster in a 30 gallon container. 2 jack herras in fabric pots coming along, My sativa unknown strain bushing up nice. just topped the sativa again today on about 3 of its colas.
and a newborn baby on day 1 of life lol. an auto NLx BB. hope u like guys. everyones grows looking amazing. cant wait till all the outdoor starts budding.

 

[Jozikins]

hey guys quick update action.
4 pics, 1 monster in a 30 gallon container. 2 jack herras in fabric pots coming along, My sativa unknown strain bushing up nice. just topped the sativa again today on about 3 of its colas.
and a newborn baby on day 1 of life lol. an auto NLx BB. hope u like guys. everyones grows looking amazing. cant wait till all the outdoor starts budding.

I like the little dolly on the 30gal. I've just been tearing up my deck sliding them around, I wouldn't advise it, lol.

 

[Jozikins]

whens the update??

https://www.rollitup.org/outdoor-growing/641948-open-show-tell-outdoors-2013-a-180.html#post9392240 you missed it, lol.

 

[fr3d12]

First up is WW x AK, next is Blueberry Cheese and the scrawny one is WW x Himalayan Gold, After topping it hardly grew at all so I thought I'd try and do something with it hence the net.
Also I'd appreciate if anyone can tell me what is causing the little holes in the leaves, it's on about a dozen or leaves on the plant in the firt pic, three weeks ago I started spraying weekly with a neem oil solution and the holes weren't thereView attachment 2752856

 

[Jozikins]

First up is WW x AK, next is Blueberry Cheese and the scrawny one is WW x Himalayan Gold, After topping it hardly grew at all so I thought I'd try and do something with it hence the net.
Also I'd appreciate if anyone can tell me what is causing the little holes in the leaves, it's on about a dozen or leaves on the plant in the firt pic, three weeks ago I started spraying weekly with a neem oil solution and the holes weren't thereView attachment 2752852View attachment 2752854View attachment 2752855View attachment 2752856

Last 5 or 6 pages we were talking about that, alternate between BT and Neem or Spinosad and Neem. Probably caterpillar damage.

Plants look good btw!

 

[fr3d12]

Last 5 or 6 pages we were talking about that, alternate between BT and Neem or Spinosad and Neem. Probably caterpillar damage.

Plants look good btw!

Thanks for that, I'll go back and have a look.
So am I correct in the assumption that caterpillars etc build an immunity to neem?

 

[Jozikins]

Thanks for that, I'll go back and have a look.
So am I correct in the assumption that caterpillars etc build an immunity to neem?

neem makes it taste nasty, but won't really stop them, it causes them to feel something like nausea. It will keep them from reproducing or becoming moth/butterflies, but it won't really kill the caterpillars. At least that's how I understand it, if we have a biologist in here that would help, lol. Other insects can build a tolerance for neem, that much I know, I just don't remember what specifically are the hardest to keep away besides spider mites.

BT or Spinosad kills them good in about 3 days and keeps them away. You can respray every 3/4 days.

 

[jbrown3]

Listen to jozikins, alternate between neem and BT. That shit sucks when they start chewing and shitting all over your nice fresh buds

 

[jbrown3]

Cause that is definetly caterpillar damage, i have the same shit on one of my huge leaves

 

[fr3d12]

neem makes it taste nasty, but won't really stop them, it causes them to feel something like nausea. It will keep them from reproducing or becoming moth/butterflies, but it won't really kill the caterpillars. At least that's how I understand it, if we have a biologist in here that would help, lol. Other insects can build a tolerance for neem, that much I know, I just don't remember what specifically are the hardest to keep away besides spider mites.

BT or Spinosad kills them good in about 3 days and keeps them away. You can respray every 3/4 days.

I hadn't seen any caterpillars about so I didn't suspect them at all, guess they're nocturnal.
Only bugs I seen were hanging about the stems, they looked camoflaged like the colour of a piece of bark or twig and the neem didn't seem to bother them so from what I believe it only affects the critters that eat the plants.
It will be hard to find BT or Spinosad in my area so will check out amazon or fleabay for it.
You're right about the neem stopping some insects reproducing, changed their biology or something.

 

[jbrown3]

They are so little when they first start chewing, the ones i find are the same color as the plant and are no longer than 1/4 of an inch. Tiny little bastards, very hard to find

 

[fr3d12]

That explains it so.
I've found spinosad on ebay but the P&P is nearly $50 to here, is BT short for something or is that what's it called?
Thanks again.

 

[BigB 420]

I think the BT I have is Safer brand caterpillar killer. I got it on Amazon. For Spinosad I've been using Monterey Garden Spray.

 

[jbrown3]

Get that safer cater pillar killer, its supposedly the SHIT, and Bt stands for Bascillus thuringiensis

 

[jbrown3]

http://www.amazon.com/Safer-Brand-Caterpillar-Killer-Concentrate/dp/B000GA7ZO8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1374985952&sr=8-1&keywords=bacillus+thuringiensis+bt

 

[fr3d12]

Just ordered some safer on ebay but it's coming from the US so will probably be a week or so to Ireland, guess neem will have to do in the meantime.
Thanks guys.

 

[Bakatare666]

Just ordered some safer on ebay but it's coming from the US so will probably be a week or so to Ireland, guess neem will have to do in the meantime.
Thanks guys.

I've gotten packages from the U.S. to Ireland in 3 days man, keep your fingers crossed.

 

[jbrown3]

http://www.420magazine.com/gallery/data/504/bud_worm.jpg hahahaha