Why are conspiracy theorists so dumb?

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jtprin

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curious2garden said:
I wish I could vote this best post of the thread. Could some heavy hitter please rep this for me cause I can't :smile:I've repped him to much already :smile:



SOURCE: http://radiology.rsna.org/content/142/3/659.full.pdf

How come pineal calcifications were evident prior to 1944? For example in 1918 when Roentgen first x-rayed the pineal why did he see it was calcified. Since back then we did not flouridate?

Further why does pineal calcification decrease in post menopausal females if it's r/t to flouride treatment? For your argument to succeed it would have to be a linear correlation unfortunately parabolic correlation proves you wrong! Oh my
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When did I say fluoride was the only thing that could lead to a calcified pineal gland? http://www.fluoridealert.org/issues/health/pineal-gland/

In the 1990s, a British scientist, Jennifer Luke, discovered that fluoride accumulates to strikingly high levels in the pineal gland. (Luke 2001). The pineal gland is located between the two hemispheres of the brain and is responsible for the synthesis and secretion of the hormone melatonin. Melatonin maintains the body’s circadian rhythm (sleep-wake cycle), regulates the onset of puberty in females, and helps protect the body from cell damage caused by free radicals.
While it is not yet known if fluoride accumulation affects pineal gland function, preliminary animal experiments found that fluoride reduced melatonin levels and shortened the time to puberty. (Luke, 1997). Based on this and other evidence, the National Research Council has stated that “fluoride is likely to cause decreased melatonin production and to have other effects on normal pineal function, which in turn could contribute to a variety of effects in humans” (NRC, 2006, p. 256).
 
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jtprin said:
When did I say fluoride was the only thing that could lead to a calcified pineal gland? http://www.fluoridealert.org/issues/health/pineal-gland/

In the 1990s, a British scientist, Jennifer Luke, discovered that fluoride accumulates to strikingly high levels in the pineal gland. (Luke 2001). The pineal gland is located between the two hemispheres of the brain and is responsible for the synthesis and secretion of the hormone melatonin. Melatonin maintains the body’s circadian rhythm (sleep-wake cycle), regulates the onset of puberty in females, and helps protect the body from cell damage caused by free radicals.
While it is not yet known if fluoride accumulation affects pineal gland function, preliminary animal experiments found that fluoride reduced melatonin levels and shortened the time to puberty. (Luke, 1997). Based on this and other evidence, the National Research Council has stated that “fluoride is likely to cause decreased melatonin production and to have other effects on normal pineal function, which in turn could contribute to a variety of effects in humans” (NRC, 2006, p. 256).
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TROLL I gave you serious primary level medical research and you answer me with conspiracy bullshit! This is why conspiracy theorists are so stupid vetting attribution is intellectually beyond you.

Now it's your turn to scream ad hominem attack while you call me delusional as you have demonstrated over and over when someone calls you on your specious bullshit. Listen kiddo not all resources are equal. But yours are a sad joke.

So now hit me back with ACTUAL primary research.... or you lose.
 
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curious2garden said:
TROLL I gave you serious primary level medical research and you answer me with conspiracy bullshit! This is why conspiracy theorists are so stupid vetting attribution is intellectually beyond you.

Now it's your turn to scream ad hominem attack while you call me delusional as you have demonstrated over and over when someone calls you on your specious bullshit. Listen kiddo not all resources are equal. But yours are a sad joke.

So now hit me back with ACTUAL primary research.... or you lose.
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How is the National Research Council along with all the other references a joke? Put the bong down.
 
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Whether right or wrong jtprin has to be one of the most dedicated and passionate people on the board. He simply refuses to stop his jihadist quest to distinguish fact vs. fiction. A true internet warrior.
 
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Whether right or wrong jtprin has to be one of the most dedicated and passionate people on the board. He simply refuses to stop his jihadist quest to distinguish fact vs. fiction. A true internet warrior.
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ROFLMAO!! You mean smoke and mirrors...

Hey Hempy what you think of my new avatar? I think it fits me? LOL
 
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curious2garden said:
Unbelievable..... you really don't have a clue what primary research is do you?
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Please explain how your sources are valid and mine aren't and how your questions relate to fluoride NOT having the ability to calcify the pineal gland? You drink a lot of tap water, don't you?
 
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Padawanbater2 said:
What is your level of education, and have you ever taken any advanced science classes?
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I'm in college and these questions have absolutely nothing to do with documented evidence. Where is your evidence that vaccines directly caused the eradication of any disease? Answer: You don't have any and that's why you refer to ad hominem arguments. Besides, are you implying that only people who have college degrees or experience are the only people capable of being intelligent?
 
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Out of the past 674 posts in this thread, approximately 2/3 have been made by jtprin. jtprin has thus far an estimate of 449.333333333333 posts in current thread.
 
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jtprin said:
I'm in college and these questions have absolutely nothing to do with documented evidence. Where is your evidence that vaccines directly caused the eradication of any disease? Answer: You don't have any and that's why you refer to ad hominem arguments. Besides, are you implying that only people who have college degrees or experience are the only people capable of being intelligent?
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It's not an ad hominem, it is relevant to the discussion

Much like you wouldn't talk quantum mechanics with a 6 year old because they wouldn't know what you're talking about, it's pointless and time consuming talking to you about vaccines because you don't have a basic understanding of the way medical science works, the way it's researched, or the way medicines get tested and approved. You have an idea of all of that but your idea is wrong and you're refusal to even consider it is evidence that you aren't interested in what is actually true.

I am saying that reading a few articles from questionable sources then forming a conclusion is not how you find out what is true
 
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jtprin said:
Please explain how your sources are valid and mine aren't and how your questions relate to fluoride NOT having the ability to calcify the pineal gland? You drink a lot of tap water, don't you?
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Now pay very close attention. My source is primary! Yours is not. In academic circles you have been checkmated. Now please go ask one of your 'professors' to explain that before you continue. Let me guess you're an education major? ::snicker::
 
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It's not an ad hominem, it is relevant to the discussion

Much like you wouldn't talk quantum mechanics with a 6 year old because they wouldn't know what you're talking about, it's pointless and time consuming talking to you about vaccines because you don't have a basic understanding of the way medical science works, the way it's researched, or the way medicines get tested and approved. You have an idea of all of that but your idea is wrong and you're refusal to even consider it is evidence that you aren't interested in what is actually true.

I am saying that reading a few articles from questionable sources then forming a conclusion is not how you find out what is true
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Yes, it is an ad hominem argument. You are completely dismissing all the evidence and failing to support your claims and instead focusing the attention on me. I don't need be an expert in medical science to see the damage that's being/been done by vaccines and the evidence that supports it. That's like saying you can't talk about professional sports teams if you've never played sports professionally. It's flawed logic and makes no sense. Until you, or anyone, including doctors with PhD's, can prove that vaccines are directly responsible for the eradication of any disease... you have nothing. You can't just ignore the FACT that our living conditions are vastly superior to what they used to be and act like that has no impact on health and immunity.

Access to clean drinking water, nutrition, personal hygiene and sanitation, superior medical technology, shelter, less poverty, etc... are why most people in first-world countries don't fall victim to diseases like polio and smallpox (monkey pox) and why they are still prevalent in less fortunate countries. Their immune systems are depleted because they do not have nutrients or clean drinking water, which I'm assuming we can both agree are two very important things when it comes to overall health, no? And without access to clean water, you cannot bathe yourself and rid yourself of all the toxins and germs that you accumulate on a daily basis. Poverty also leads to stress in many cases, even further depleting the immune system.
 
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curious2garden said:
Now pay very close attention. My source is primary! Yours is not. In academic circles you have been checkmated. Now please go ask one of your 'professors' to explain that before you continue. Let me guess you're an education major? ::snicker::
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Your sources do absolutely nothing to disprove the notion that fluoride can calcify the pineal gland.
 
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