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schuylaar

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Rob Roy said:
But we've always burned witches....you think we should stop THAT??!! What are you some kind of Utopia monger?
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and do you know who those "witches" were?..just everyday, normal people who were "different" ie; they marched to the beat of a different drummer..often times single, accomplished women who were politically persecuted..they just can't go around hanging us anymore..what is it about white men and their lynching parties for those that disagree with their mindset?
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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schuylaar said:
and do you know who those "witches" were?..just everyday, normal people who were "different" ie; they marched to the beat of a different drummer..often times single, accomplished women who were politically persecuted..they just can't go around hanging us anymore..what is it about white men and their lynching parties for those that disagree with their mindset?
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Certainly trying to run others lives is not a good thing to do. That's one of the reasons I oppose mandatory programs inflicted on people that simply want to be left alone.
 
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ChesusRice

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Rob Roy said:
Certainly trying to run others lives is not a good thing to do. That's one of the reasons I oppose mandatory programs inflicted on people that simply want to be left alone.
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You are still going to have to clean your room unless you move out.
Now stop making excuses and get to it.

Oh and you should really think about helping out more around the house.
 
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schuylaar

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Rob Roy said:
Coercive government = "threats of violence".
O..okay..
Okay. You're a runaway slave, it's 1840 something. You knock on my door and ask me to hide you. Even though it is illegal for me to do so, of course I hide you. I broke the law and was happy to do so, despite the threats of violence levied against me for helping you. You'd favor using threats of violence or actual violence against law breakers, because they "broke the law".
um, but it's not 1840
I evaluated the law disregarded it, BECAUSE, it's a law founded in ignorance. YOU on the other hand, BLINDLY OBEY. Your obedience perpetuates threats of violence. Why are you so willing to revere obedience over helping somebody?
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it takes quite a bit for a law to be put in place and the repercussions of following vs. not following..you be the judge..sounds like a one way ticket to lockup raw..

PS i'm the first person to NOT follow and question EVERYTHING..trust me..but ive realized a few things once i matured..the law is actually your FRIEND.. you just need to figure out the way to use to YOUR advantage like I did..
 
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schuylaar

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Rob Roy said:
Certainly trying to run others lives is not a good thing to do. That's one of the reasons I oppose mandatory programs inflicted on people that simply want to be left alone.
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well, there is alaska and living off the grid..i heard you can see russia from there:lol:
 
Doer

Doer

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Winter Woman said:
That quote was said by Tina Fey not Palin. And you can see Russia from some parts of Alaska.
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The real quote is: "They're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska."

And you see this stuff all the time and people should really wonder, like DNA is they know anything of fact if they tune out all but their drummer.
http://erikras.com/2008/09/25/can-sarah-palin-really-see-russia-from-her-house/
"Any intelligent person knows that Sarah Palin was joking when she said that she could see Russia from her house. It’s pure hyperbole. But everyone in the media keeps repeating it over and over, and I’m certain that some people probably actually believe it to be true."

And yet this article writer actually thinks Palin said that. This is the problem that is getting worse each day. Ignorance and character assassination.

So, I don't like that.

Hey, I don't appreciate her voice but she is not stupid and has a fine character by all accounts.
 
Winter Woman

Winter Woman

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schuylaar said:
welcome back to your thread, winter..i kept it warm for you!

i did not reference nor did i quote anyone..it was a true statement.
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Still in my travels, ah to sleep in my own bed again. I'm actually in a meeting and bored to tears. Gotta go. Tina Fey is the one that said it like that not Palin, remember SNL?
 
Samwell Seed Well

Samwell Seed Well

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So have the mass deaths started yet or is this just the tip of the iceberg . . . . . .. this one story about one doctor messing up . .this time
 
Wavels

Wavels

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Here is one Doctors' account of the real life horror of bogus "insurance".

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324139404579017113415486176.html

Take the examples of Lasik eye surgery or cosmetic surgery. These services are not covered by insurance. Providers compete on the basis of quality, outcomes and price. And prices have continually dropped as quality and services have improved—unlike the rest of health care.
When my patient returned for his post-op visit we discussed the experience. It was clear to both of us that the only way to make health care more affordable is to diminish the role of third-party payers. Let consumers and providers interact through market forces to drive down prices and drive up quality, like we do when we buy groceries, clothing, cars, computers, etc. Drop the focus on prepaid health plans and return to the days of real health insurance—that covers major, unforeseen events, leaving the everyday expenses to the consumer—just like auto and homeowners' insurance.
Sadly, we are heading in the exact opposite direction. ObamaCare expands the role of the third party and practically eliminates the role—and the say—of the patient in the delivery of health care. Will they ever learn?
 
Samwell Seed Well

Samwell Seed Well

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so we are not having mass death due to Obama care yet or we are . . . . . .


or maybe Obama care hasnt been implemented yet fully and the mass death come later
 
Doer

Doer

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whaaat is your obsession with mass death? They are purely your words...mass death. That happens every day.
 
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ChesusRice

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Wavels said:
Here is one Doctors' account of the real life horror of bogus "insurance".

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324139404579017113415486176.html

Take the examples of Lasik eye surgery or cosmetic surgery. These services are not covered by insurance. Providers compete on the basis of quality, outcomes and price. And prices have continually dropped as quality and services have improved—unlike the rest of health care.
When my patient returned for his post-op visit we discussed the experience. It was clear to both of us that the only way to make health care more affordable is to diminish the role of third-party payers. Let consumers and providers interact through market forces to drive down prices and drive up quality, like we do when we buy groceries, clothing, cars, computers, etc. Drop the focus on prepaid health plans and return to the days of real health insurance—that covers major, unforeseen events, leaving the everyday expenses to the consumer—just like auto and homeowners' insurance.
Sadly, we are heading in the exact opposite direction. ObamaCare expands the role of the third party and practically eliminates the role—and the say—of the patient in the delivery of health care. Will they ever learn?
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So is there an App for comparison shopping when you have a Heart attack?

Do you wave off an Ambulance in such a circumstance if it is too expensive?

And I would like to know. Are the mass deaths due to Obamacare being covered up?
 
Samwell Seed Well

Samwell Seed Well

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Doer said:
whaaat is your obsession with mass death? They are purely your words...mass death. That happens every day.
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i thought this thread was about eh mass deaths and negligence the new obamacare was going to bring . . .i was supposed to sign up . . but i havent been told where it is actually happening yet . . .just curious dont wnat to be left out
 
ginwilly

ginwilly

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ChesusRice said:
So is there an App for comparison shopping when you have a Heart attack?

Do you wave off an Ambulance in such a circumstance if it is too expensive?

And I would like to know. Are the mass deaths due to Obamacare being covered up?
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For a heart attack I will gladly pay the freight at the nearest hospital. If they save me, I will most likely shop around for a Cardiologist, wouldn't you? The bitch of it is, I have to make sure he's "in network".

Remove artificial barriers to medical services (put in place to PURPOSEFULLY limit competition like CONs) and that ambulance ride would be under 100 instead of 4 or 500.

Is mass death the line in the sand before we can call this piece of shit bill a piece of shit bill?
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Winter Woman said:
That quote was said by Tina Fey not Palin. And you can see Russia from some parts of Alaska.
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awwwww, did picking on palin hit a sore spot?

i like how palin carries around a retarded child to make her look slightly less retarded in comparison.

here is some more cringe from the retard you love so much.

"But ultimately what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the healthcare reform that is needed to help shore up our economy." --Sarah Palin
 
ginwilly

ginwilly

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UncleBuck said:
awwwww, did picking on palin hit a sore spot?

i like how palin carries around a retarded child to make her look slightly less retarded in comparison.

here is some more cringe from the retard you love so much.

"But ultimately what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the healthcare reform that is needed to help shore up our economy." --Sarah Palin
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I missed it, did you quote a SNL skit because you thought it was real, or were you just being dishonest? Like Bush said, that's a bad strategery:lol:
 
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schuylaar

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Wavels said:
For anyone who is curious, here is what is going on at UPS.

Despite what the president claims, there is no escape from ObamaCare's punishing effects. Don't think so? Just ask your UPS delivery man the next time he drops off a package.

Full piece here:http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/082113-668333-obamacare-delivers-bad-news-to-ups-workers-webhed-obamacare-delivers-bad-news-to-ups-workers.htm
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Wake up people!..this is nothing new..

1. Not covering spouses who ALREADY have access to healthcare through their own employment..why?..because they ALREADY have access..
2. Dropping hours below 30 so employees will be part-time therefore, not eligible for healthcare..um, they've been doing this for as long as I can remember..nothing new here..you name it, they do it mcd's, starbucks, your local grocery..FOLLOW ALONG THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PORTION OF MY STATEMENT..everyone does it AND the president KNOWS IT..hence, the exchanges so people can have access to health..now do you get it?
3. Obviously UPS supports the right which is why when I send out my drugs, I cheerfully use FedEx..that and because I like that nice boy in Castaway..do you think he ever married that girl he finally delivered the package to with "wings" on it? I hope so..he was such a nice boy and a good job too..I hear they offer full-time hours:lol:
 
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