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st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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FilthyFletch said:
I think some are really missing the main point. Yes both have seed lines but thats not the main thing. Sub has always given and been honest and helped. He never screwed people over, he never lied, he never used people thats the difference . Thats where Gypsy is getting this return karma from not from selling seeds thats fine. The fact he stole and used people and lied makes him a bad person which is why Sub is nothing like Gypsy. Gypsy is the guy you d beat his ass if you saw him after he took your money and ran. Sub is the guy who would come back and be like damn fuck that here's something from me to help out for the loss. I read the karma thread and was surprised the biggest wack job posting on there was racerboy71. How he is a mod is beyond logic but then again most of those who somehow got to be mods have some issues and the little power they have here goes to their heads. Either way Sub will be fine and he will continue to help those he has something to offer help to and Gypsy for being a lying, thieving , dick who made lots of enemies will sit miserable and fucked like those he screwed over.
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Fletch, do you know both of these men personally? If not, you are making an awful lot of presumptions here.

And racerboy seems like a straight up cat to me. Tells it how he sees it. There are some sketchy mods on here, but I don't consider him one of them.
 
wolfpack4ever

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I didnt miss the point.. Sub explained it in "The Last Thread" why he was leaving online forums... I know Subcool is a stand up dude and a caring human being for others or else I wouldnt grow mainly only his genetics and follow only his methods... And i stand by his decision on leaving here because frankly, there are not a lot of smart people on here. asking questions you can just look up instead of taking the time to make a thread and hoping Sub or someone knowledgeable to respond.. And when they are the same questions over and over, they tend to get annoying when hes probably already pointed out where to find the info youre looking for.. Ive been around here long enough to see it with my own eyes, and i just shake my head behind the screen everytime and move on... Call me what you want but Subcool made it easy for me to grow great cannabis for myself. I did all the research myself which was free (THANKS TO SUB) and made it possible to have TGA genetics in my stash.. where there is no such thing as good medicine around here.

I was just pointing out how i feel about Gypsy & thats all I wanted to say.. Straight up, hes a piece of shit.

Sub, youre the man.

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Mad Hamish

Mad Hamish

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All people are essentially good. Shitty decisions get made by us all. Judgement serves nobody. Understanding serves any individual that seeks it out. Lets not drop the gauntlet any longer, people. We are all brothers working towards a common goal, and when a long standing member of our community (the reefer community) is feeling so down and out that temper and frustration get the better of him, we should rally to his support. Because we need every general and foot soldier we have. There is a war out there waged against all of us, against the cannabis collective. They want to lock us up and RICO the roof away from our families heads. Accept the flaws of those that are in our army. We have enough enemies. Why divide our own ranks with infighting? Just show a little love when you can see it is needed. Sub and Gypsy have their own deep rift, it is their past and their future, it has nothing to do with us. Was it cool of Sub to make his feelings known in public? Who cares. Freedom of speech baby. Allow a man to vent some. Carrying your dead mate while somebody else hides in a cupboard is not something any of us has experienced, nor is having to hide in a cupboard while your mates deal with death because the law already wants you in a cage. Please reserve comment unless this is an experience known to you. All I know is Sub has been helping us out. Looks like he can use some kind words. The rest is of zero consequence.
 
stoned cockatoo

stoned cockatoo

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from what I have seen on this forum its like 90% of people are swinging on subcools nut sack, then there is the 10% that for whatever reason don't like him or his gear.

if you cant handle not being accepted or praised by that 10% then what the fuck are you doing? never going to please everyone.

I personally don't think he is a good breeder and the fact that he calls producing fems selling out is on a shit for brains level of thinking, especially when he wants to suck on shantis dick at the same time
 
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joe macclennan

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the mans sick and stepping away from all this shit to spend more time w/ his fam.

No sense bashing him too much there stoned bird.

jus sayin

and I'm not one of the 90% swinging on his nuts. Tbh, i've never even been in his subforum much as I'm not organic or in dirt most of his stuff doesn't apply to me.
 
Mr.Head

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there are not a lot of smart people on here.
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I beg to differ, you and Subcool are focusing on the negative of the community.


If you people can't ignore the negative then maybe you really shouldn't be on a forum, if you think everyone that posts a thread that is already answered elsewhere is a personal attack against you then maybe you should leave the forums. If someone spends $20 per bean on his seeds, maybe the mofo can hit google himself and provide customer service to his customers. Or maybe, he could hire someone to provide proper customer service without being a dick to people who purchased $200 worth of beans.


Because this is the Marijuana racket some people seem to think they don't need to provide the most basic customer service, how hard is it to google something for your customer? Can't be too hard right? I mean you tell them how easy it is after they spent $20 per bean on your genetics. You can't even be bothered to get your customers the information they need, regardless of whether they could google it or not, and then have the audacity to bitch about it when they are fucking paying your bills by buying your seeds. If I went to any other business with a question and was told to "google it" they would be told to fuck off and their product thrown in the garbage that is a fact. It's terrible business. *This gets brought up constantly as to why Sub is annoyed at the forums, on the weed nerd and here, it's fucking stupid. I bet that's half the reason Sub pisses so many people off. His genetics are over priced you come with a question thinking you'd get an answer and instead get attitude from the guy you just threw money at.

If people asking questions that have already been answered makes the community stupid then you won't find a single "smart" forum anywhere. Sometimes people want answers to their specific question rather then an answer to someone else's question, they are stupid because of that?

Subs like the PC support guy who asks if it was plugged in it wasn't then he calls you an idiot. Great way to do business dude.
 
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Vincent VonBlown

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It's hard to endlessly deal with people... I get pissed pretty easy myself... I mean look how I try to help people with their problems like cancer. and lung problems etc... I'm am the creator (or co-creator) of the bubbler DWC system, Wonderbud, Ignition, and a few other things... So, when somebody comes up to me, (like happened recently in this forum). And tells me to shut my mouth and my plants look like shit. I could take a frying pan, and smash it right into his head Tony Soprano style...
 
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Vincent VonBlown

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Most of the time, I never read comments others make. Especially when it's something I posted. I don't bother reading comments on my Youtube channel either. As there is always haters around, and people that like to argue... It's almost as if they want to test you...
 
st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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ReefBongwell said:
More like a bunch of little whining bitches pissed off one of the greats and deprived a lot of people who WANTED to hear what the guy had to say off. Fuck you guys up your asses. Your hater ass sees things with the slant you want to see them with -- he doesn't wish jail on anyone else for being a competitor, he reacted to someone getting thrown in jail who was a shitty person who takes advantage of others by being happy about it -- because the guy going to jail PERSONALLY fucked subcool. You assclowns think it's not natural or right to hate the fuck out of someone who personally screws you over -- you are complete dumbasses who get satisfaction in ruining things for others and pissing people off. Well done showing your true stripes. No wonder you support gypsy -- you're shitty people like him taking enjoyment out of screwing others over. You just made my decision up for me as far as whether I leave this site. I'm done here as well. I don't want to be a part of any community where assclowns like you get to turn every thread into negativity. That's not what I'm here for.
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Reef, you seem like a really good guy. I mean that. But what did you, or sub for that matter expect on a public forum? All rainbows and unicorns? There are going to be people that don't like sub, or his gear. People have every right to express their opinions whether you or sub like it or not. There are also going to be noobs that ask dumb questions. He could have choose to answer those questions, belittle them for asking them (which was usually his M.O.) or ignore them. But to take his toys and go home over people asking "dumb questions" is ridiculous! I expect that kind of behavior from my 7 year old. As much as subcool helped people, he benefited from this relationship more than any of you ever could. Putting himself out there on youtube and websites sold 1000's of seeds, hats, jars, books, bags of soil, charge packs, etc, etc, etc. He' running a business. Has there ever been a company, or a person in the history of mankind that was loved by all? Even Ghandi had his detractors.

Sub couldn't take the heat, so he's getting out of the kitchen. That's fine. His decision. I'd probably do the same if I were in his shoes. But don't blame it on "haters" and "dumb questions" from noobs. That's such a pathetic cop out.
 
st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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joe macclennan said:
there are certain forums centered around this industry that do not allow blatant heckling. THis however isn't one of them.
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Maybe subcool should start his own forum then where he can filter everything that's said and it can be a 24/7 TGA love-fest.

I don't know about you, but I'd rather spend my time where people are free to share opinions, both negative and positive.
 
ReefBongwell

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st0wandgrow said:
Maybe subcool should start his own forum then where he can filter everything that's said and it can be a 24/7 TGA love-fest.

I don't know about you, but I'd rather spend my time where people are free to share opinions, both negative and positive.
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Between a filtered forum and a bunch of troll posts like in this forum in the last week with NOTHING TO DO WITH GROWING, I'll take the filtered site. I'm not here to watch a bunch of people bitch in sub's forum that they don't like sub.
 
st0wandgrow

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ReefBongwell said:
I don't think you actually read my post. Sub is gone, so why are people still posting here hating on him? If the trolls are not going to leave the subcool forum, there's no reason for me to stay. I'm not interested in every thread being pissed off by some clownshoes troll posting the kind of stuff posted here. I'm not leaving because the trolls made subcool pissed and leave or I'd already have left. I'm pissed because the continue to try and ruin it for everybody who's still here like a bunch of babies with nothing better in their lives than to cause shit for others. Don't like subcool -- it's your right I'm fine with it. Constantly bitching in the subcool forums about how you don't like sub is not cool and a total BITCH move by those who are doing it. I'm having second thoughts about leaving but I've been thinking about a break even before the sub shit happened and was thinking about staying even after but if almost every thread in the subcool forum is going to have some troll whining about what they don't like about sub in it, I'm not down with that. I've requested in the site support forum the mods step in, we'll see if they do. Some of you people need to grow the fuck up.
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He just left a day ago. Some people are going to do touchdown dances over that for a minute, but I would expect that to calm down in due time.

I did read your post. "More like a bunch of little whining bitches pissed off one of the greats and deprived a lot of people who WANTED to hear what the guy had to say off. Fuck you guys up your asses. Your hater ass sees things with the slant you want to see them with." And I responded to it. You can be pissed at all of the noobs and haters all you want, but sub is the one that choose to leave and delete most of his helpful posts. If he was simply tired of this (and I don't blame him) he could have just quietly stepped back instead of erasing the knowledge that was supposedly shared out of the goodness of his heart. It's clear to me that he decided if he's not going to benefit from this site anymore, then he's not interested in being so helpful.

He's no saint, he's a business man. And he will continue to run his business how sees fit.
 
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joe macclennan

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st0wandgrow said:
Maybe subcool should start his own forum then where he can filter everything that's said and it can be a 24/7 TGA love-fest.

I don't know about you, but I'd rather spend my time where people are free to share opinions, both negative and positive.
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there is a big difference between giving a negative opinion honestly and being an ass about it.

as has been stated before....the man is sick.... let it go

or keep posting the same negative shit you have been and show what kind of a heartless prik you are.

I'll say it again. I don't follow sub or give a hoot about his methods so I'm not vested in this convo. one way or the other.
 
st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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joe macclennan said:
there is a big difference between giving a negative opinion honestly and being an ass about it.

as has been stated before....the man is sick.... let it go

or keep posting the same negative shit you have been and show what kind of a heartless prik you are.

I'll say it again. I don't follow sub or give a hoot about his methods so I'm not vested in this convo. one way or the other.
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I'm being 100% honest. I'm sorry if my opinions upset you. You seem to be awfully butt hurt for someone who doesn't give a hoot about any of this.
 
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