Guns don't kill people, gun owners kill people.

[Red1966]

The opposite of progressive is recessive, and I am amused buy you support of the later. Life is too short to go backwards. Been there, it sucked.

The label you give yourself only describes the illusion you wish to project, not your true self. Typical self-righteous libtard

 

[UncleBuck]

"Save the delta. Kill the tunnels." California spends money like its a surplus. It's like retards don't know what a massive deficit is all of the sudden...

witness california's debt shrinking before your very eyes...

http://www.usdebtclock.org/state-debt-clocks/state-of-california-debt-clock.html

meanwhile, you wouldn't have a pool to clean if not for the government. you'd be sucking sand and be unable to meet clients to do gay-for-pay forays if not for the government building that aqueduct and pioneering the internet.

but all you do is bitch and moan like a hysterical, pre-pubescent girl.

your life must really suck.

 

[Red1966]

Links that base their data on 5 year old stats or are shills for the gun industry, why don't you use something that counts, and you do your own search on the FBI web site. Then come back and argue some more, you sophist.lol

Why do you refuse to post the source of these "facts" you keep claiming? He was able to cite his sources, but you can not. Could it be you are just making up shit as you go? lol

 

[FreedomWorks]

witness california's debt shrinking before your very eyes...

http://www.usdebtclock.org/state-debt-clocks/state-of-california-debt-clock.html

meanwhile, you wouldn't have a pool to clean if not for the government. you'd be sucking sand and be unable to meet clients to do gay-for-pay forays if not for the government building that aqueduct and pioneering the internet.

but all you do is bitch and moan like a hysterical, pre-pubescent girl.

your life must really suck.

What is it with you? I clean my own pool. So what? Why does that make you think that I clean pools for a living? Are you really that retarded?

http://www.sfexaminer.com/sanfrancisco/much-delayed-bay-bridge-retrofit-feels-growing-pains/Content?oid=2135719

 

[UncleBuck]

What is it with you? I clean my own pool. So what? Why does that make you think that I clean pools for a living? Are you really that retarded?

http://www.sfexaminer.com/sanfrancisco/much-delayed-bay-bridge-retrofit-feels-growing-pains/Content?oid=2135719

so nothing to say about the fact that you live smack in the middle of a place that would be a barren desert if not for the government?

nothing to say about the fact that your ability to be an ignorant sock puppet for $0.07 a post is courtesy of the government and their infrastructure?

just a non-sequitir about some bridge in the bay area?

alright then.

 

[Red1966]

Look, I am usually the one asking questions, an idealist, just charging up for a dialogue. I am tired of the anti-intellectual movement in this place, the disrespect and me sitting in defense of creative solutions. Frankly, I prefer civil dialogue. It gets tiring to be good, sensitive, and decent. You are right.....I give him no credit in that area, and likewise receive no credit for courtesy or respect. Tell this sensitive blow-job to find an 80's movie and better ideas. The condescending and sarcasm gets nauseating....I have a limit.

Are you done telling us how wonderful you are yet? 'Cause it's really getting boooooorrrrring!

 

[FreedomWorks]

so nothing to say about the fact that you live smack in the middle of a place that would be a barren desert if not for the government?

nothing to say about the fact that your ability to be an ignorant sock puppet for $0.07 a post is courtesy of the government and their infrastructure?

just a non-sequitir about some bridge in the bay area?

alright then.

Bay bridge is over 4 billion dollars the projected budget. That's not including interest. And the bridge is still not done yet. Do you have any idea how many problems and scandals have taken place because of the government contracting with the unions? It's a total disaster. And now you liberals are building a bullet train. With what money? BART is still on strike. You liberals shut down the pumps feeding water to the central valley because of an endangered minnow. And now you expect to get redemption by digging up the delta? Are you crazy? Is this how far out of wack the liberal democrat party has become?

 

[Red1966]

Interesting spin on it, your opinions are good at looking true. I still think 300,000 people have died since guns were used by civilians to restore order here at home. Gun-nuts are the bastard children of a very violent American history and a good amount of irrational fear and racial tension. But the gun nuts are before anything simply consumers. Guns were cleverly put in the hands of all heroes on the silver screen cops, cowboys, war movies almost always had minority antagonists. Brilliant marketing and a scared population can produce any fanatic, not to mention guns are pretty exhilarating and release adrenaline when shot. The power and addiction one experiences is significant but they are here and now. The war between and armed populous and its' government in modern times is not going to restore the power grid, or our civilian communication networks. The strategy for the govt is not residential sweeps, it's no Call of Duty landscape, I speculate that if deprived of power, internet, water, and fresh food people become tyrannical against one and other. That high powered civilian arsenal is effective how in this situation? It seems a little hard to wrap my head around the right still as relevant as it once was. Please, I am trying to understand not take anything, I want to hear this tale play out the way you see it. I notice that gun-related homicide are a non issue for most gun people and wonder why that is? The darker side of widespread civilian ownership of powerful guns, ones that could fight in war, is worth acknowledging. A lot more dead people caught in the spray and ricochet and we owe them a good plausible reason. The Right to Bear Arms ends where? What point do we distinguish what arms anyone has the right to have? Which are both safe to the general public and highly destructive as needed in war. Bombs? Chemicals? Biological Arms should be our inalienable right. The Bill of Rights is not able to address this and these are alienable arms. Is this document still flawless, it leaves a lot of ambiguity and shows the illusion of its' basic tenet. Again, there are a lot of unanswered questions for people like me. There are delusions of how a modern revolt would be fought. I ask that those with opinions, facts, or additional perspective keep this clean exchange, we all need a break and let's talk. What is realistic, what is not, where do the changes need to happen......again please be respectful.

Odd you would mention "racial tension", as the first attempts to restrict gun ownership were aimed at blacks. Oh you "progresives", always trying to rewrite history.

 

[UncleBuck]

Bay bridge is over 4 billion dollars the projected budget. That's not including interest. And the bridge is still not done yet. Do you have any idea how many problems and scandals have taken place because of the government contracting with the unions? It's a total disaster. And now you liberals are building a bullet train. With what money? BART is still on strike. You liberals shut down the pumps feeding water to the central valley because of an endangered minnow. And now you expect to get redemption by digging up the delta? Are you crazy? Is this how far out of wack the liberal democrat party has become?

wow.

so many wild bunny chases completely off topic, so little time.

my favorite is your mindless regurgitation of highway signs. it really displays your intellect.

 

[FreedomWorks]

wow.

so many wild bunny chases completely off topic, so little time.

my favorite is your mindless regurgitation of highway signs. it really displays your intellect.

So little time? You live on RIU with your 43k posts. If you don't have anything to say, then I guess that means you've been proven wrong.

Now maybe we can get back to topic, about how you want the government to control everybody from what gun they can have; to everything else.

 

[Red1966]

Tell me why I am wrong...obsolete means updated. Use your freedom of speech. No offense, but read my words slower and calmer. You make subjects I mentioned into statements you crafted.......be fair at least.

For one thing, "obsolete" does not mean updated.

 

[UncleBuck]

Now maybe we can get back to topic, about how you want the government to control everybody from what gun they can have; to everything else.

citation needed.

 

[FreedomWorks]

New sales of semi-automatic rifles with removable magazines would be banned in California under a bill passed by the Democratic-led state legislature on Tuesday, and those who already own such weapons would have to register them.

Citation Given.

 

[Red1966]

re: point #1 - you're wrong...

So we should ignore 56 million dead?

 

[Murfy]

hey buck-

hows it goin with the succession? the new thing im workin on? thanks for asking.

except for a monthly travel for supplies(my truck runs on homebrew ethanol now), i havent left my farm in 37 weeks.

except to buy guns and ammo. deer season is coming, and my seven year old, will more than likely kill his first deer this year. he will also yield the edge that dresses it.
government is lie, and iam has been showing us much.

 

[Murfy]

are these guys fags?-

i don't know.

 

[UncleBuck]

New sales of semi-automatic rifles with removable magazines would be banned in California under a bill passed by the Democratic-led state legislature on Tuesday, and those who already own such weapons would have to register them.

Citation Given.

that's controlling what gun you can't have.

want to get your hands on superior firepower? join the military.

something tells me that you're only competent enough to be given a potato peeler though.

 

[Red1966]

Yep. cant waste good beer.

Good thing you weren't shot in the stomach.

 

[UncleBuck]

government is lie, and iam has been showing us much.

was that supposed to be a sentence in english?

 

[Murfy]