Susan Estrich Blows The Rigged Election Wide Open

[medicineman]

I'm pretty convinced that election fraud is widely entrenched in our system. Last election, Nv. had paper trails with the voting machines. I hope they kept them. If they are gone, it's a pretty sure thing they're going to fix the election. What's up with the Democrats that they can't stop this? If this was a third world country (Will be soon) we'd be screaming election fraud.

 

[GrowRebel]

It's already a sure thing that they are going to fix the election but it has to be within 10% for them to do it ... and I can see there really being that close a margin for McSame ... if you saw MCM video you will get his assessment as to what is going on with the dims ... I believe they are in on it too ... did you see that the dims actually won 50 seat in 06 and not 29? ... now what's up with that if they are not in on it?

 

[GrowRebel]

This is why the repukes started that voter ID bullshit ... so they could keep people from voting ... that's why people must get out in mass and vote ... if you don't want another stolen election get out and vote in masses ... don't make it easy for these asswipes to steal ...

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/06/11/97-year-old-arizona-woman-disenfranchised-by-voter-id-law/[URL="http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/06/11/97-year-old-arizona-woman-disenfranchised-by-voter-id-law/"]97-Year-Old Arizona Woman Disenfranchised by Voter ID Law[/url]

Shirley Preiss was born in Kentucky in 1910 - a full 10 years before American women gained the right to vote. She first voted in a presidential election in 1932, for FDR. She’s voted in every presidential election since, but that’s all about to change due to Arizona’s draconian voter ID law.
As Art Levine reported, Shirley effectively lost her right to vote when she moved to Arizona:

After living in Arizona for two years, she was eagerly looking forward to casting her ballot in the February primary for the first major woman candidate for President, Hillary Clinton. But lacking a birth certificate or even elementary school records to prove she’s a native-born American citizen, the state of Arizona’s bureaucrats determined that this former school-teacher who taught generations of Americans shouldn’t be allowed to vote.
The state’s voter ID law, passed in 2004, requires voters to show ID at the polling place and to provide proof of citizenship in order to register. But birth certificates weren’t issued in 1910 in Shirley’s birthplace of Clinton, KY, and her elementary school no longer exists.
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Shirley appeared on the local news Monday night in Phoenix to tell her story:
YouTube video ...
She’s far from the only victim of this law. The Arizona Advocacy Network reports that nearly 40,000 voter registration forms have been rejected due to inadequate proof of citizenship. And it’s getting to be a national problem.
The Supreme Court gave Indiana the green light last month on its restrictive voter ID law, and other states have already or are in the process of passing similar laws. Everywhere such laws are enacted, the voting rights of thousands of Americans - especially among the poor, elderly, and minorities - are put at risk. Fortunately many other states have fended off voter ID laws, and I’m proud that People For the American Way’s Democracy Campaign played a role in many of those fights. Nothing short of a concerted effort by the progressive movement over the coming years will succeed in safeguarding the right to vote.
Kolbert is president of People For the American Way

 

[GrowRebel]

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0806/S00182.htmElectronic Voting: Clinton Beats Exit Polls

This was the first of the "must-wins" for Clinton. She went into New Hampshire on the heels of an embarrassing third-place finish in Iowa and a 20%+ defeat in Wyoming, had lost momentum, and was trailing by substantial margins in every pre-election poll in the Granite state (the range was from 5% to 13%, with Obama's and Clinton's internal polling both also showing a double-digit Obama margin). Observers consistently reported Obama rallies that were far larger and more enthusiastic. There was no sign of a Clinton groundswell. Yet on Election Night the voters apparently changed their minds, and gave her a 3% victory. The media pundits scratched their collective heads and scrambled to explain this stunning reversal, which would have been remarkable enough if it had been a double-digit shift from a single reputable tracking poll, but was truly staggering when viewed against the backdrop of the entire phalanx of tracking polls. There was palpable grasping at straws-but never even a hint that perhaps the polls had it right and something was wrong with the vote counts.


Here is the crux of the matter. ALL the polls were consistent in showing an sizable Obama victory. Yet when the victory unexpectedly went to Hillary, the mainstream media assumed the attitude that all those pre and exit polls were universally wrong, while the unverifiable electronic result had to be accurate. MR

This is an example that they can only cheat so much ... more than 10 points and they can't make it ...

 

[GrowRebel]

Mark Crispin Miller warns of Election Theft & Martial Law



This is pretty much what I put up before just from a difference source ...

 

[ViRedd]

Hey Grow Rebel ...


Most conspiracy nuts see a conspiracy behind every bush. You, on the other hand, see a Bush behind every conspiracy. You're kind of a one-note opera, aren't you?


Vi
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[GrowRebel]

Just like you ... always shooting your mouth off with no backup ... You dummy bushies just love to use the euphemism "conspiracy" ... to disregard the facts ...just like your illegitimate leader ... when you can't dispute facts ... quite dull really and telling ... You have yet to produce anything that disputes the FACTS I have posted in this or any other thread that I make records of the crimes committed ... either put up or STFU ...

 

[ViRedd]

You have used the term "illegitimate" about 5000 times here in the forum and are yet to provide anything substantive to prove Bush's illegitimacy. So, its you who needs to "put up," not me.

And by the way, just because you have somehow deluded yourself into believing that anyone opposed to your nut-job conspiracy theories is a "Bushie," doesn't make it so.

Vi

 

[medicineman]

Nut jobs?? Really?

 

[GrowRebel]

You have used the term "illegitimate" about 5000 times here in the forum and are yet to provide anything substantive to prove Bush's illegitimacy. So, its you who needs to "put up," not me.

And by the way, just because you have somehow deluded yourself into believing that anyone opposed to your nut-job conspiracy theories is a "Bushie," doesn't make it so.

Vi

The fact that you made this comment on this thread shows just how completely stupid you really are ... quite the contrary Vi ... you have been blowing this same bullshit out your ass for each of my 5000 times ... when I pinned you down you back away ... so spare us your bullshit nut-job conspiracy talking points ... it has already been proven bush is illegitimate in this very thread ... where's your proof the evidence is wrong? Put up or STFU ...

 

[ViRedd]

You have yet to define where Bush's presidency is illegitimate. Until you do, I will continue to call your posts bullshit.

Vi

 

[GrowRebel]

You have yet to define where Bush's presidency is illegitimate. Until you do, I will continue to call your posts bullshit.

Vi

It's always a pleasure to slam bushies with facts for all to see just how stupid they truly are ...

First up is the proof that defines the illegitimate bush as just that ... something to this day you have been unable to dispute ... so let put this one up again
You put up some kind of bullshit excuse why you couldn't dispute it ...

and don't forget this

... and how bout this

Something for the doc. lovers ...

Check out "Hacking Democracy"

 

[ZenMaster]

It's always a pleasure to slam bushies with facts for all to see just how stupid they truly are ...

First up is the proof that defines the illegitimate bush as just that ... something to this day you have been unable to dispute ... so let put this one up again
You put up some kind of bullshit excuse why you couldn't dispute it ...

and don't forget this

... and how bout this

Something for the doc. lovers ...

Check out "Hacking Democracy"

Silly Grow, quit being a baby. Bush won, Gore lost. Get over it, it was legal and the Supreme Court (they must be illegitimate as well) had to put a stop to the ridiculous recounting after proven again and again Bush won.

I love how you call anyone who doesn't agree with you a "bushie". What a typical ignorant comment as usual. Vi is not a "bushie", not even close, it just shows how really stupid you are.

We don't have to dispute your stupid conspiracy theories, because thats what they are, CONSPIRACY THEORIES. Bush got into office legitimately and again for the second term. You can bask in denial if it helps you sleep at night, honestly, I don't give a shit if you ever grow up.

 

[medicineman]

Silly Grow, quit being a baby. Bush won, Gore lost. Get over it, it was legal and the Supreme Court (they must be illegitimate as well) had to put a stop to the ridiculous recounting after proven again and again Bush won.

I love how you call anyone who doesn't agree with you a "bushie". What a typical ignorant comment as usual. Vi is not a "bushie", not even close, it just shows how really stupid you are.

We don't have to dispute your stupid conspiracy theories, because thats what they are, CONSPIRACY THEORIES. Bush got into office legitimately and again for the second term. You can bask in denial if it helps you sleep at night, honestly, I don't give a shit if you ever grow up.

Uhhh, "stupid is as stupid does" Forrest Gump. I'd have to say Bush and his cohorts have done some pretty stupid things!

 

[ZenMaster]

Uhhh, "stupid is as stupid does" Forrest Gump. I'd have to say Bush and his cohorts have done some pretty stupid things!

Great contribution there Med. Not sure what that has to do with anything other than you like to announce for the billionth time you don't like Bush. Thanks. Are you going to join the ranks of retards and dispute that Bush won the 2000 presidential race legitimately?

 

[GrowRebel]

Silly Grow, quit being a baby. Bush won, Gore lost. Get over it, it was legal and the Supreme Court (they must be illegitimate as well) had to put a stop to the ridiculous recounting after proven again and again Bush won.

I love how you call anyone who doesn't agree with you a "bushie". What a typical ignorant comment as usual. Vi is not a "bushie", not even close, it just shows how really stupid you are.

We don't have to dispute your stupid conspiracy theories, because thats what they are, CONSPIRACY THEORIES. Bush got into office legitimately and again for the second term. You can bask in denial if it helps you sleep at night, honestly, I don't give a shit if you ever grow up.

Once again you shoot your stupid mouth off with out backing anything you spew ... only a dumbass bushie like you would say FACTS are conspiracy theories ... but that what you parrots were taught to say when face with undeniable facts ... well Einstein I don't see you showing people why they are theories ... like always we are suppose to take your dumbass word ... oh that right you simply don't have the time ... NOT ... STFU ... you've shown us nothing other than spouting off your worthless no backing bullshit ... so keep trying to project your own denials on to others ... it hasn't worked before and it's sure as hell ain't working now ... GORE WON .... FACT ... KERRY WON ... FACT ... put up or STFU

 

[medicineman]

Great contribution there Med. Not sure what that has to do with anything other than you like to announce for the billionth time you don't like Bush. Thanks. Are you going to join the ranks of retards and dispute that Bush won the 2000 presidential race legitimately?

Retard city here I come, Bush stole both elections, hands down. when he is out of office and power, it will be proven, hopefully in a court of law. I'm not going to waste my time bringing you all the facts to dispute, It is just my opinion and a whole hell of a lot of others. Get used to it. Thanks.

 

[GrowRebel]

Are you going to join the ranks of retards and dispute that Bush won the 2000 presidential race legitimately?

The only retard is you ... who can't even read ... when faced with FACTs your brain freezes ... Ah I love making you look totally stupid ... it really makes my day ...

FACT:Gore Won
Al Gore was the choice of Florida’s voters -- whether one counts hanging chads or dimpled chads. That was the core finding of the eight news organizations that conducted a review of disputed Florida ballots. By any chad measure, Gore won.

Newspaper studies confirm Democrat Gore won Florida vote
Two newly published studies of the ballots cast in the US presidential election confirm that Democrat Al Gore was the choice of more Florida voters than Republican George W. Bush ... One study was conducted by the Washington Post, the other by Tribune Co., which owns the Chicago Tribune, the Orlando Sentinel, and the Fort Lauderdale Sun-Sentinel.

Gore Won ... BBC

NYT
Andrew Gumbel, a U.S. correspondent for the British newspaper The Independent, provides the best overview I've seen of the 2000 Florida vote. And he documents the simple truth: "Al Gore won the 2000 presidential election."



But the dummy bushie faux news watching automaton that you are will parrot and spew some talking point like you usually do ... it's all you're really capable of doing which is really pathetic ... but I said it before ... I love slapping dumbass bushies with the facts ... what's even more fun is when they deny the obvious ...

 

[mockingbird131313]

If you two think Gore and Kerry won those elections you don't need facts, you need therapy and medication.

 

[MatanuskaThunderFuck]

And conspiracy theories are built upon three words. Go figure.

Vi

4 words actually...