90W homemade LED grow

PetFlora

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Yes, leading to the narrower the lens angle the farther away the light needs to be. Counterproductive, if you ask me. However, No matter whether 3w or 1w proximity to each other must be factored in to prevent either hot spots, or the opposite- black spots
Heat shouldn't be a problem, the heat sinks are properly sized per the wattage. The multichips are all the same size (30W, 50W, 100W) and yet the floods get bigger per the wattage in order to mitigate the heat.

Multichips are fine, imo. Some people don't like them for various reasons. They do pack a lot of Watts in a rather small amount of space so you tend to get hot spots of light similar to using multiple 600W HPS fixtures, or what have you. When using 1W or 3W chips you can space the LED's accordingly and arguably get more homogeneous light levels over your canopy. I think they are cool because they simplify the DIY process a lot, and if you have multiple wavelengths on the same multichip you get very even spectral mixing by having all the chips so closely packed together. Think Kessil where the light is evenly mixed by the time it leaves the reflector, whereas with 1W/3W LED's you might need the lights at 12in or so before those Blue hot spots that bleach your plants are "diffused" enough to not have negative effects. I guess this isn't really a selling point here considering we're discussing White multichips, but for the record, I guess. Also, most of the multichips you see use Chinese chips so you don't get quite as high efficiency when compared to boutique name brands. When I'm looking for a quality multichip I aim for the Red chips to be 42mil and the Blue chips to be 45mil. If the seller doesn't specify I usually guess they're 35mil and those chips aren't as efficient.
 

JMD

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Just got a new price in.. 145 RMB for the 50W module with XPG WHT-L1-0000-00EE7 LEDs.
Those are the best BIN in the warm white 2600-3700k.

Quite okay price!
 

JMD

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Custom LED modules with XPG WHT-L1-0000-00EE7 LEDs ordered, as well as the heatsinks. Will of course post pictures when I get it all (should be about a week).
 

lax123

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do you speak chinese or what with ur fancy cheap heatsinks and stuff like this :-) How you know its the real deal and some LED factory is exclusivly producing pcb in low quantity and high quality and very cheap just for u?
 

JMD

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do you speak chinese or what with ur fancy cheap heatsinks and stuff like this :-) How you know its the real deal and some LED factory is exclusivly producing pcb in low quantity and high quality and very cheap just for u?
Got a GF that speaks chinese ;) You can never know if what you get is the real deal or not, unless you buy it straight from the manufacturer (in this case: Cree).
It's cheap because it's China, and they are flexible in regards to orders because they want to make money.
 

PSUAGRO.

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Just got a new price in.. 145 RMB for the 50W module with XPG WHT-L1-0000-00EE7 LEDs.
Those are the best BIN in the warm white 2600-3700k.

Quite okay price!
Are you going to verify the bin #'s??? I do believe they will send actual cree emitters (a close up shot is enough for that confirmation), but the bin #'s will be a little more difficult. Can you give us the price quoted to you for the top bins?? EH hopefully can chime in if legit as he buys BULK cree(area 51 panel) from china and would know if the pricing matches the quality suggested by the vendor.

Thanks JMD
 

JMD

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You interested in doing a group buy? I'd like some of those perhaps.
Sorry, I already ordered. I'll see if the seller can sell in some ways to you, because usually it would require a Chinese bank account.



Are you going to verify the bin #'s??? I do believe they will send actual cree emitters (a close up shot is enough for that confirmation), but the bin #'s will be a little more difficult. Can you give us the price quoted to you for the top bins?? EH hopefully can chime in if legit as he buys BULK cree(area 51 panel) from china and would know if the pricing matches the quality suggested by the vendor.

Thanks JMD
145 RMB is the price. It equals to roughly 23.70 USD.

I'm not sure how I can verify the BIN. Any suggestions?
 

JMD

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send them to calijoe and let him put them under the spectrometer hehe
But that won't show if it's a Q3 or an R2? I might have access to an integrating sphere, which I'd say would be the best possible way to verify them.
 

PSUAGRO.

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^^ very nice jmd.........bin #.s are hard to verify! our best bet is EH, who could kind of dismiss top bin at a certain price.

In the end if it grows great plants who cares! Ha:-P
 

ak84

Member
Then you wouldn't really need anything else. The bare essentials are:

- 6x 50W modules
- 6x Drivers
- 2x heatsink
- Wiring
- Thermal paste (if you don't have it already, it's $1 on eBay)

A single 120mm fan should suffice, two for lower noise level. And of course the metal work.
Could you please link a couple of thermal paste brands that you would use on your own panels?
 
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