Raidermans Grow
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I had a kushberry plant from DNA..The best dope i ever had grew or smoked.
Completely unstable(imagine that out of a dna strain)Bean popping MFers in my opinion.
Well anyhow this plant would go to complete shit in veg as soon as the MH bulb hit six months and started losing a little spectrum and lumen output. Not much but at that time i was using light rail movers to try and make more do less.(it never seems to work out like that sometimes)Soon as that plant lost just a little light in veg it would start trying to bud and go retard.When retarded it would normally for what ever reason not stretch in bud much at all and produce the largest stinkinest nugs ever.Once it went full on retarded into bud it was almost impossible to get it to come back out.I had a ripper i had to pull out of bud at about i month put it back into veg and it pulled out in a couple of months fine.Just cut some of the buds off let some light through her new vegetative growth developed cut clones from it and all is good.
Completely unstable(imagine that out of a dna strain)Bean popping MFers in my opinion.
Well anyhow this plant would go to complete shit in veg as soon as the MH bulb hit six months and started losing a little spectrum and lumen output. Not much but at that time i was using light rail movers to try and make more do less.(it never seems to work out like that sometimes)Soon as that plant lost just a little light in veg it would start trying to bud and go retard.When retarded it would normally for what ever reason not stretch in bud much at all and produce the largest stinkinest nugs ever.Once it went full on retarded into bud it was almost impossible to get it to come back out.I had a ripper i had to pull out of bud at about i month put it back into veg and it pulled out in a couple of months fine.Just cut some of the buds off let some light through her new vegetative growth developed cut clones from it and all is good.
raiderman
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Gd morning Max..yeah kushberry is so far the best dank ever created , 2 good phenos and one stretchy branchy crappy phenol,lol..heres a link from those been awhile since I ran any tho.. https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/222941-raidermans-og-kush-og-kush.html take a look and see if any of that looks familiar.
SOMEBEECH
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I have kept a mother plant that I revegged for over a yr.
Was asking your thoughts,on the cuts from a reveged plant.
Ive read the best cuts are from a seed plant,and after doing both I agree.
Beech
Yea only got to see the good KB ..just like the one i had..finicky bitch..
The other pheno i had. had long lanky real skinny resinous buds,Annoying to watch grow but straight fire.
Both of them straight STINK..wow..you could put a ounce of it in the trunk of car..in a bag and still smell it in the front seat.
I was reading about your bust.My daddy smart man that he was always told me.
Never shit where you eat.
Another guy on here used to have a tag.KEEP EM SAFE..KEEP EM SECRET.
about the same time you got busted i got busted up here where i am at.Seeds were caught at customs. Customs sent them to the state police where i live..state police came out to see if i had a grow here..I didnt(thanks to the sound advice from my dad)
One gram of crap weed and a resinous pipe cost me around 8000 bucks still.
My thoughts on seed plant cuttings vs cloned plant cuttings .Im sure your right about getting better cuttings off of a seed plant.But eventually they get old raggedy and need replaced.
Many people have been getting cuttings from the pre 98 bubba kush for example for at least 15 years and ive never heard of any degrade in quality or vigor of the plant.
Every once in awhile nature throws a freak..Something that is not easy to duplicate some of these freaks get cloned and passed around then recloned and passed out some more.
there are perhaps thousands of these freaks that are grown out and thrown away just due to grower incompetence in keeping the sterling example.
Just like some people who are born with downs syndrome.Allot of times these people are tremendously strong..i mean really really strong.however god decided to make them he took some capacity from them in one area and over compensated capacity in the other.These examples are all through nature.Sorry i got chatty weed that makes the mind go into over drive..got to love me some HAZE.
Many people have been getting cuttings from the pre 98 bubba kush for example for at least 15 years and ive never heard of any degrade in quality or vigor of the plant.
Every once in awhile nature throws a freak..Something that is not easy to duplicate some of these freaks get cloned and passed around then recloned and passed out some more.
there are perhaps thousands of these freaks that are grown out and thrown away just due to grower incompetence in keeping the sterling example.
Just like some people who are born with downs syndrome.Allot of times these people are tremendously strong..i mean really really strong.however god decided to make them he took some capacity from them in one area and over compensated capacity in the other.These examples are all through nature.Sorry i got chatty weed that makes the mind go into over drive..got to love me some HAZE.
DLOPEZ1420
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Raider u play baseball or something... what happened you couldn afford baseball bats??... so u started growing them... lolz. Very nice homie.. keep them flicks coming...
Thundercat
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I think stress and care are the biggest factors in how long a genetic lasts. I ran my WW for over 4 years, and only the first batch of clones came from the seed mother. After that I lost track of how many generations deep my clone taking went. I replaced the mothers about 1-2 times a year depending on various things. Until last summer I had always takken good care of the mothers, and the clones, and I never felt there was much if any degrade over the time I ran it. Last summer with my accident my plants had some rough weeks, I lost one mom all together and the other took a beating. After that the plant never really seemed quite the same, and I just recently harvested the last of it after letting the mother go.
Now contrary to my experiances with my WW. I got a cut of some Bubba Kush a while back, and ran it a few times then that was the mom I lost at the accident. I got more cuts of it a few months later from the same guy, and same mom but they grew very different, and kinda scragly. They tasted, and smelled the same, and were just as frosty and dank but the bud structure had changed. So the guy asked me if I had noticed this which I had. The only thing we can figure out is that in the year between when I got cuts the mother had taken a ton of abuse. It had been moved many times, cut off, frozen, dried out, alll kinds of stuff.
So like I said at the beginning I think plant care, and stress or lack of make the biggest impact on how long genetics last. Some people WON"T grow from clones, or WON"T clone more then 1-2 generations. But come on some of the dankest genetics in the world have been around for many many years in clone only forms.......
srry for the long post, I'm toasted, and just started rambling
peace!
Now contrary to my experiances with my WW. I got a cut of some Bubba Kush a while back, and ran it a few times then that was the mom I lost at the accident. I got more cuts of it a few months later from the same guy, and same mom but they grew very different, and kinda scragly. They tasted, and smelled the same, and were just as frosty and dank but the bud structure had changed. So the guy asked me if I had noticed this which I had. The only thing we can figure out is that in the year between when I got cuts the mother had taken a ton of abuse. It had been moved many times, cut off, frozen, dried out, alll kinds of stuff.
So like I said at the beginning I think plant care, and stress or lack of make the biggest impact on how long genetics last. Some people WON"T grow from clones, or WON"T clone more then 1-2 generations. But come on some of the dankest genetics in the world have been around for many many years in clone only forms.......
srry for the long post, I'm toasted, and just started rambling
peace!
PeaceLoveCannabis
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I've noticed plants started from seed grow faster overall, and have more overall vigor. Personally my mothers should be started from seed, and then used and abused until the main stem gets to the size of my thumb, then she's flowered out for personal use. This is what I do to avoid my mothers throwing out some shitty clones. I still get clones that are from the 70's / 80's some people just can't let go 
raiderman
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I always went for the louisville sluggers.lol.
budbro18
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My hog plant i grew from seed was mutated a little and it refused to grow alternating nodes for the longest and all the branches that grew off the main branch were like this too.
Then all the clones i took for the first time were already topped because of how they were growing like that.
A few days after my clones were planted the 2 little tops would pop up and start growin without alternating nodes so i could top em again. Alot of time the split would even be buried by the time they were harvested.
It was like planting seeds with the strength of clones. Its now worked its way out but i loved it for a while.
