Why Did Bush Knock Down The Towers?

[ZenMaster]

I stopped watching fox new on like day 2-3 of the whole shock and awe thing. when heraldo got busted being in two places at once kinda thing. He was reporting from one place can't remember the name. Come on half hour later wit hlive update and now says he is in such and such a place. Turns out there was no possible way he could have traveled the distance the his next story get prepared all the stuff., in half an hour. It was funny at the time. I just though like really how much of this am I supposed to believe if he is not even where he say he is.

Heres a good one for you

YouTube - Michelle Kosinski in Canoe

 

[dirtyshawa]

Look pal, you want to waste your time looking at propaganda, have at it. Just don't expect me to approach it with the same reverence you do.

i'm telling you not to fall victim to the propaganda. it's puzzling to me how people have such closed minds. if you'd take the time to check out the doc. you'd see our country has a long history of such. you can't deny the facts.

he's a moron. he was clueless as to the "reality" of it. look at katrina. took several days for that one to sink in. YouTube - Best Bushisms

so, so, right. FDD i know you got something good in the air right now, check out the doc. and all the history we have of doing shit like that and the facts about bush and them is astounding.

This is where people don't get it.

When the first plane hit the tower, he was notified by his staff. No, he is not going to throw the book in some kids face and bolt out of there, because they told him basically, "hey, a plane hit the WTC, it was probably an accident, we don't know, we will keep you informed" Okay then. When I first saw it, I thought it was an accident, but when it got hit AGAIN, something was going on, and that is when Bush left the school kids as well.

never said he was supposed to act like a ass(which he does anyway). i don't know where in the hell you got your transcripts from but, that's not what was said. anyway, what about the drills being ran for the same kind of attack on the same day. making norcad think it was just a drill so, they wouldn't launch fighter jets to shoot down the hijacked planes once they new the course of the hijacked planes.

 

[ZenMaster]

never said he was supposed to act like a ass(which he does anyway). i don't know where in the hell you got your transcripts from but, that's not what was said. anyway, what about the drills being ran for the same kind of attack on the same day. making norcad think it was just a drill so, they wouldn't launch fighter jets to shoot down the hijacked planes once they new the course of the hijacked planes.

Nobody knows what was said to Bush but you don't have to be a genius to figure it out.

This is what happened.

A plane hit the WTC, Bush was notified, and kept on reading

A second plane hit the WTC, Bush left.

When the first plane hit the WTC I thought it was an accident, and I'm sure that Bush's cabinet considered the possibility that it was an attack but more than likely thought it was an accident. Only once it was struck for the second time did the red flags go up.

 

[dirtyshawa]

First off

I am very enlightened in everything politics, so calling me a victim of the "propaganda machine" is an ignorant statement. You call me a sheep because I don't agree with you, fine, but I call you a sheep following a different flock. The first weapon in the liberal arsenal is the good ol' "faux news" attack. You think I watch Fox News (which coincidentally I like a lot more than the REAL propaganda machines AKA CNN, NBC, ABC, MSNBC, BBC) to get my facts and sources. I get mine through what I see from Congress and Senate hearings and the arguments presented from both Dem's and Repubs. You should try it rather than just croaking "FAUX NEWSSS".

Nobody gives credit to the good Bush had done, they'd rather insult him and anyone left who had the brains/balls to defend him is instantly set upon with insults.

how'd i guess you love fox news? didn't call you a sheep, my friend. one issue i do have is why not find out the facts yourself, i.e. public records, declassified doc., etc. etc. i think just think your perception of reality is a little distorted and i want to help you as your fellow american. case in point your oil argument, our hands are on it now what do you have to say. what about bush compensating fox news for their stories to the tune of $1.2 bil. just wake up and smell the coffee, it's not about conservative this liberal that it's about the truth and the lies, the myths and the facts, it's simple if you open your mind.

 

[VTXDave]

The only thing I could see that Bush would gain from 9/11 would be to expand on his presidental powers, like the Patriot Act. If this is the case, then the House and Senate and the democrats in them, are the blame as well, for they all passed it.

Ever notice how that's often overlooked/ignored by many?

 

[Johnnyorganic]

i'm telling you not to fall victim to the propaganda. it's puzzling to me how people have such closed minds. if you'd take the time to check out the doc. you'd see our country has a long history of such. you can't deny the facts.

Is it only people who disagree with you who have closed minds?

 

[dirtyshawa]

Nobody knows what was said to Bush but you don't have to be a genius to figure it out.

This is what happened.

A plane hit the WTC, Bush was notified, and kept on reading

A second plane hit the WTC, Bush left.

When the first plane hit the WTC I thought it was an accident, and I'm sure that Bush's cabinet considered the possibility that it was an attack but more than likely thought it was an accident. Only once it was struck for the second time did the red flags go up.

it seems that you don't want to know the truth. that's sad to see, you being an american. it's a shame that your willing to give up your liberty in the name of freedom when they are one in the same. oh, what has bush done good for the country?

 

[dirtyshawa]

Is it only people who disagree with you who have closed minds?

no, not at all? in fact if you disagree i gladly welcome the debate. my only hope when such a debate occurs is that a constructive ideology is formed out of it, not just i think this and i saw that on tv. i started this thread with a question which i don't necessarily have a stand on as of yet as i've just watched the documentary and all the facts are still setting in. but, that's just it i've backed up my assumption with facts opposed to comments from personal opinion. i believe that there are some people who just can't come to grips with government being corrupt and down right despicable when it comes to power and greed.

 

[ZenMaster]

how'd i guess you love fox news? didn't call you a sheep, my friend. one issue i do have is why not find out the facts yourself, i.e. public records, declassified doc., etc. etc. i think just think your perception of reality is a little distorted and i want to help you as your fellow american. case in point your oil argument, our hands are on it now what do you have to say. what about bush compensating fox news for their stories to the tune of $1.2 bil. just wake up and smell the coffee, it's not about conservative this liberal that it's about the truth and the lies, the myths and the facts, it's simple if you open your mind.

Sorry, but thats not good enough.

We aren't TAKING any oil from Iraq, that little article just says that Iraq will produce more oil in effort to increase commerce that will in turn help build their infrastructure. It didn't even say who they will sell to.

Is this is it? That is your irrefutable evidence? It may be good enough for you but not for me. The way conspiracy theorists portray it is that we invaded Iraq and are forcefully taking their oil.

I believe your reality is distorted. You and your ilk read something, take a few key words, and make up the rest and call anyone who doesn't believe you a fox news lover.

 

[ZenMaster]

it seems that you don't want to know the truth. that's sad to see, you being an american. it's a shame that your willing to give up your liberty in the name of freedom when they are one in the same. oh, what has bush done good for the country?

Here is a link to the post I made awhile back on the politics section, don't want to copy/paste it here, its to long.

https://www.rollitup.org/politics/62812-two-americas-3.html#post708211

 

[Johnnyorganic]

how can your mind be open if you deny the facts of 9/11.

I am completely open to the facts of 9-11. It's the kooky moonbat ravings I object to.

I'm not depriving you of those 'facts', you see. I simply reject the propaganda. 'Facts' which were debunked years ago.

Bring something new to the table and I'll consider it carefully.

 

[OsirisDev]

Is it only people who disagree with you who have closed minds?

I agree, why is that we are the sheep and the ones "buying" into the propaganda? The same can be said about you man. Please don't insult our intelligence by name calling, get off your high horse dude!

 

[hom36rown]

The lusitanian, pearl harbor, the gulf of tonkin, all had very suspicious circumstances surrounding them...same with 9/11, these attacks just happen to serve the elites agenda so well...how else are they going to convince a bunch of people to go half way around the world to die...for what?

 

[pandabear]

ya i mean one of you is right and one of you is wrong. thats for sure, its the only thing we can prove at this time,


now if bush was in cahoots with al Queda and masterminded the whole attacks why would al queda allow us to kill thier peeps everyday? woundnt they our bush as the master mind for betraying them??



puff on that for as moment with your open mind

 

[mexiblunt]

Maybe bin-laden and all his close peeps are fine and it's just all these new recruits dying for him. he probably don't give a shit about his ppl either.

 

[Johnnyorganic]

The lusitanian, pearl harbor, the gulf of tonkin, all had very suspicious circumstances surrounding them...same with 9/11, these attacks just happen to serve the elites agenda so well...how else are they going to convince a bunch of people to go half way around the world to die...for what?

That's probably the most intelligent response I have seen on this subject.

And you are correct. My favorite example is the Spanish-American War. It was thinly veiled imperialism which fomented a war based on a coal bunker fire, and subsequent boiler explosion, on an American battle wagon {USS Maine (ACR-1)} anchored in Havana harbor.

We have been drawn into war based on questionable circumstances in the past - no question.

However, the '9-11 was an inside job' theory has been debunked categorically.

 

[ledgic13]

nice to know im on a site where people are in to alternate theorys ...those towers came down to fast, i was in ny, that was free fall, they blew that fucker up...those werent even comercial jet planes.wtf
he did it because hes evil, where pawns in a game of control...
another way to control the people...
they tried to do this plan with kennedy, he refused, next thing you know his head is gone in 3 places, why??


thats why i say dont vote, and watch what happens, they elect who they choose to elect despite our supposed votes...

my eyes have been open...
i got out of ny and im here in tx.
fuck there bullshit!!!!

 

[hyphyjoose]

nice to know im on a site where people are in to alternate theorys ...those towers came down to fast, i was in ny, that was free fall, they blew that fucker up...those werent even comercial jet planes.wtf
he did it because hes evil, where pawns in a game of control...
another way to control the people...
they tried to do this plan with kennedy, he refused, next thing you know his head is gone in 3 places, why??


thats why i say dont vote, and watch what happens, they elect who they choose to elect despite our supposed votes...

my eyes have been open...
i got out of ny and im here in tx.
fuck there bullshit!!!!

Just leave the country. I'm tired of America anyway, in Sacramento you just grow up around all the bullshit. I wanna move somewhere in Europe.. Holland, Sweden, Germany, Ireland, London.. Shit somewhere maybe that isn't as industrialized where I can own my own huge house and farm land on the coast with satellite tv and internet connection not giving a fuck

 

[dirtyshawa]

Sorry, but thats not good enough.

We aren't TAKING any oil from Iraq, that little article just says that Iraq will produce more oil in effort to increase commerce that will in turn help build their infrastructure. It didn't even say who they will sell to.

Is this is it? That is your irrefutable evidence? It may be good enough for you but not for me. The way conspiracy theorists portray it is that we invaded Iraq and are forcefully taking their oil.

I believe your reality is distorted. You and your ilk read something, take a few key words, and make up the rest and call anyone who doesn't believe you a fox news lover.

whoa, your over looking the fact that only the major western oil companies are vying for these contracts. irrefutable, never said it, i see your starting that fox news double talk thing, but that's okay, let's address your issues with my comments. exxon, shell, bp, chevron, and total are companies iraq throughout when they nationalized their oil. first off, no-bid contracts are unusual for the oil industry(my aunt is an accountant for marathon oil) and their offers prevailed over contracts from more than 40 companies, including companies in Russia, China and India. The contracts, which run for one to two years give the companies an advantage in bidding on future contracts in a country that many experts consider to be the best hope for a large-scale increase in oil production. make no mistake about it these contracts allow the us and our allies to secure the oil wealth that these contracts will extract. our government is running what you call "game". it would be impossible for the us to strong arm the oil. bolivia and venezuela are nationalizing their oil. how does that effect the us you say. well, these companies that i speak of are based in the us or western europe, our allies. with markets closing doors to our companies and our leverage in iraq coupled with the fact that iraq's oil ministry is advised by american's, these companies have a back door in if you will, to potentially, the second largest oil producing nation, which intends to increase production by 500,000 barrels a day once the new contracts are awarded and technology implemented. these, contracts give us a foothold to the larger plans for iraqi oil development which will be larger oil fields which are in the works as i write. let me make it simple for you, our oil companies in iraq=cheaper barrels of oil=cheaper gas=boost in economy. bush couldn't strong arm the oil, so, i'm a put it in a marijuana context. i know you are one of the biggest herb men in town, i send my goons to kill you take your herb and take over your workers, let them run the business as usual allowing me to get free herb and my people get it at a discounted price. sweet!!!

 

[blonddie07]

I dont blame George W bush at all. Hes our president. Its the terrorists who did it!

(who were the terrorists again?)


And the whole oil situation... even if we do get oil from iraq, its going to take 2-3 years to get here! by that time, oil will be 49 bucks a galoN!!!!!!11122312!!!!@21123ONE!!!11