If you have nothing to hide, why do you care about government surveillence?

[Dr Kynes]

Merica: #1

and where did you get this unattributed retarded list of contradictory bullshit?

#24 The United States spends more money on government schools than any other nation on earth does.

we spend too much on schools? the left says we dont spend enough.

in per-pupil spending the US is ranked between 25th and 40th depending on which source you read

#33 The United States spends more on the military than the next 12 nations combined, and yet the Obama administration is considering plans to unilaterally slash the size of the U.S. nuclear arsenal by up to 80 percent.

so we spend to much on the military (granted) AND YET!!!! the O-Man is proposing reducing our rather pointless nuclear arsenal??

what is this moron trying to say? we spend too much on the military machine, so reducing those expenditures is a bad idea?

how dare obama make a move which is regarded widely as a good first step in reducing our military spending WASTE on weapons we can never use since we wont be nuking anybody and nobody is realistically expected to nuke us any time soon.

why keep a stockpile of weapons we DARE NOT USE to threaten an opponent who doesnt even exist any more? because somebody somewhere makes their living maintaining these weapons, and building more.

your list is full of idiotic crap like that.

 

[abandonconflict]

contradictory

so we spend to much on the military (granted) AND YET!!!! the O-Man is proposing reducing our rather pointless nuclear arsenal??

If he is reducing the arsenal and still asking congress to spend the most, where will the money go?

 

[Rob Roy]

Look no matter what he reduces, you can keep your insurance! No wait, wrong thread sorry.

 

[Dr Kynes]

If he is reducing the arsenal and still asking congress to spend the most, where will the money go?

we spend the most, but we need to spend less.

even if current expenditures remain the same, if the money is used to pay soldiers, improve VA services, or repair our depleted conventional military infrastructure, at least it's being used more wisely.

can we agree on that?

 

[abandonconflict]

we spend the most, but we need to spend less.

even if current expenditures remain the same, if the money is used to pay soldiers, improve VA services, or repair our depleted conventional military infrastructure, at least it's being used more wisely.

can we agree on that?

Merica es numero uno.

 

[Rob Roy]

we spend the most, but we need to spend less.

even if current expenditures remain the same, if the money is used to pay soldiers, improve VA services, or repair our depleted conventional military infrastructure, at least it's being used more wisely.

can we agree on that?

So "we" (channeling Doer here) need to spend extorted money to kill people in foreign lands to make sure we are free here? Does the freedom being protected include the freedom to not participate in the killing or does that kind of freedom not count?

 

[Dr Kynes]

Merica es numero uno.

so that would be a NO.

the US should completely disarm, eliminate the VA and transform into a doddering helpless client state under the command of whichever nation decides to simply move in and take us over.

You for one would welcome our new North Korean Overlords.

 

[Doer]

So "we" (channeling Doer here) need to spend extorted money to kill people in foreign lands to make sure we are free here? Does the freedom being protected include the freedom to not participate in the killing or does that kind of freedom not count?

Hey, knock that shit off.

 

[abandonconflict]

Look no matter what he reduces, you can keep your insurance! No wait, wrong thread sorry.

 

[Dr Kynes]

So "we" (channeling Doer here) need to spend extorted money to kill people in foreign lands to make sure we are free here? Does the freedom being protected include the freedom to not participate in the killing or does that kind of freedom not count?

"I" (channeling myself here) have repeatedly stated that the job of the US military should be to protect AMERICA from foreign threats and violent internal insurgencies and defend our constitutional republic from those who would destroy it in favour of some other system which is LESS responsive to the people who nominally own it.

"I" (still channeling myself) have repeatedly rejected foreign adventures, nationbuilding and the use of american taxes (which are too damned high) to defend other nations and support dictatorships abroad.

"I" (continuing to channel myself) have repeatedly argued for a reduction of our military industrial complex and the restoration of constitutionally imposed limits and the prohibition against a standing national army, in favour of citizen militias, and a small core of professional officers and NCO's to assist the militias in training and readiness should they be needed to combat a threat to our constitutional republic.

"I" (channeling myself continues unabated) have repeatedly asserted that if we MUST have a standing army, it should secure OUR borders, not the borders of south korea, japan, germany, england, france, uganda, saudi arabia, yemen, or any other nation which is not part of our admittedly frayed and tattered union.

since "I" help pay for it, "I" feel some measure of responsibility for it's excesses, and thus "We" the american people should voice our opinions on how the military should be constituted, and how it's forces should be arrayed.

your strawman was pretty rickety bro.

 

[Dr Kynes]

Hey, knock that shit off.

i agree, his reception is garbled. Robbo needs to put some aluminium foil on his rabbitears or spend a couple bucks to get cable.

it didnt sound like you at all.

 

[UncleBuck]

so that would be a NO.

the US should completely disarm, eliminate the VA and transform into a doddering helpless client state under the command of whichever nation decides to simply move in and take us over.

You for one would welcome our new North Korean Overlords.

lol, they can't even feed themselves but they sure could decimate a massively armed american populace.

ok.

 

[Rob Roy]

i agree, his reception is garbled. Robbo needs to put some aluminium foil on his rabbitears or spend a couple bucks to get cable.

it didnt sound like you at all.

When you learn that individual consent isn't and can't be given by others, you will get to come out of the corner and take the pointy hat off and go out for recess.

 

[Rob Roy]

so that would be a NO.

the US should completely disarm, eliminate the VA and transform into a doddering helpless client state under the command of whichever nation decides to simply move in and take us over.

You for one would welcome our new North Korean Overlords.

I thought your constitution prohibited a standing army?

You know the constitution that one small group of people gave the consent of a large group of people to obey, umm, without the large groups actual consent...

 

[nitro harley]

lol, they can't even feed themselves but they sure could decimate a massively armed american populace.

ok.

I think Buck owns a gun..and pretends that he doesn't. Buck you can tell us, maybe a family hand me down?

 

[Doer]

I think Buck owns a gun..and pretends that he doesn't. Buck you can tell us, maybe a family hand me down?

See how you feed this beast. So, why try to guess what Buck is or is not? That is his entertainment.

What difference does 1/2 truth or mostly lies make in Politics.

None.

 

[Dr Kynes]

I thought your constitution prohibited a standing army?

You know the constitution that one small group of people gave the consent of a large group of people to obey, umm, without the large groups actual consent...

yes, the constitution prohibits a standing army, and requires a MILITIA

OHH NOES!! Compulsory Service !!


thats non-consensual!! everybody else should defend your pasty ass so you can sit on your hump behind walls you did not build protected by sentries you do not feed and guarded by soldiers when you never lifted a spear.

you have no idea what society requires, you want the benefits of society without the costs.

if you really want to be a nation of one, with no laws you didnt personally approve, and no rules which might infringe on your whim, ted kaczynsky's shack is available.

you can either man the walls yourself, or work in the kitchens, or Git The Fuck Out of our castle. there are no other choices.

 

[Rob Roy]

yes, the constitution prohibits a standing army, and requires a MILITIA

OHH NOES!! Compulsory Service !!


thats non-consensual!! everybody else should defend your pasty ass so you can sit on your hump behind walls you did not build protected by sentries you do not feed and guarded by soldiers when you never lifted a spear.

you have no idea what society requires, you want the benefits of society without the costs.

if you really want to be a nation of one, with no laws you didnt personally approve, and no rules which might infringe on your whim, ted kaczynsky's shack is available.

you can either man the walls yourself, or work in the kitchens, or Git The Fuck Out of our castle. there are no other choices.

If religious freedom is protected by "the Constitution" and it is against a persons religious beliefs to kill others do they still have to go to Ted's shack?

Also compulsory service could be the same as involuntary servitude, you know slavery. You seem to have alot of inherent contradictions in your constitution.

Also, next time please write about Smurfs, I miss them.

 

[Dr Kynes]

If religious freedom is protected by "the Constitution" and it is against a persons religious beliefs to kill others do they still have to go to Ted's shack?

Also compulsory service could be the same as involuntary servitude, you know slavery. You seem to have alot of inherent contradictions in your constitution.

Also, next time please write about Smurfs, I miss them.

how you feel after arguing with:

A Constitutional Conservative:

A Capitalist:

An Anarcho-Spoonerite:

AbandonConflict:

 

[Rob Roy]

Yet somehow your pictures fail to answer my questions.