looking for some C. afganica

[cerberus]

Ok guys,
I have come across a strain called M.O.B. (mother of bud, money over bitches, but its true name is mother of berry) It is definitely a C. afganica strain and I am looking for some seeds of similar characteristics. Does anyone know any good breeders or sites offering seeds from the Afganica family?
Note: afganica is similar to indica but it is not. So please only keep it to this family.
Thanks guys,
Cerberus

 

[cerberus]

I'm going to bump this one time, just to make sure..

anybody have any sudgestions?

 

[SCARHOLE]

I'm thinking old sensi maple leaf indica
or Melvanettics NL5

ill dig threw my collection an see what else I got. ......

 

[trontreez]

"The most common examples of pure C.afghanica include the many different hash plants and Afghani strains"

Jorge Cervantes - Grower's Bible

 

[Jogro]

Three year old strain. . .I always wonder how these get resurrected. . .

Note: afganica is similar to indica but it is not. So please only keep it to this family.

What, exactly, is the difference?

Sounds to me like "C. Afghanica" is just a subset of indica.

 

[OGEvilgenius]

Leaf morphology is somewhat different, I think there are a few others. Really all Cannabis came from the same gene pool - it's just how it's evolved from region to region. At least that's what current research suggests.

 

[Pepe le skunk]

Believe afghanica is just afghan indica. Flying Dutchman has it listed as an afghani strain as do some of the places in canada. Very good examples might be tom hills deep chunk. Did recently find lapis mountain indica x deep chunk. The lapis is said to be from recent afghan genetics and cannacopia crossed it to deep chunk to give it that old school afghan genetics that have been worked.
Afghan #1 is also considered afghanica I believe.
Hope that helps.

 

[OGEvilgenius]

There is an Afghanica sub classification I'm pretty sure that's acknowledged by some botany types. Sorry I forget which level it fits on the tree and I forget most of the tree off hand anyway - could it be because of the tree ironically ? Look I'm a poet too. Fuck I'm high.

 

[Pepe le skunk]

Here is the description of afghanica from sensi seeds.
"the most perfect examples of the dark, ultra-resinous Cannabis Indica genotype are actually found hundreds of kilometres to the northwest, in the mountains of Afghanistan. Dedicated students of Indica bloodlines often refer to these varieties as ‘Afghanica’ when speaking of their favourites and as ‘hash plants’ when talking generally of the strains found across India, Afghanistan and Pakistan. Many Indica-heads prefer their ganja without a trace of Sativa or Skunk, while some purists will only consume weed or hash that they know to be 100% Cannabis Indica In years past, the most determined Indica-lovers have journeyed all the way to Pakistan, then across the Afghan border into ‘hashish country’ — the high reaches of the Hindu Kush between Chitral, Mazar-i-Sharif, down to Kandahar in the south — in search of pure, unaltered local seeds which might be brought home to grow into the Afghanica of their dreams"

 

[Jogro]

I did some digging on this; like with many taxonomic classification systems, C. Afghanica isn't recognized as a subspecies by everyone.

Basically the term refers specfically to cannabis cultivars from Afghanistan traditionally used to make hash, usually from the mountains. So these are short, fat leaved, large trichome head, high CBD "couchlock" indicas. They're typically relatively fast maturing, cold resistant, potent, and have "hashy" scents/taste.

Strictly speaking "Cannabis indica" refers to plants from India/Pakistan. So in fact most of the popular "indica" plants probably could fairly be called "afghanicas". Basically, if its got pure or nearly pure Afghan genetics, you could call it an "Afghanica".

The famous Mazari Shariff line probably qualifies, as do most of the plants with pure Afghani genetics (eg Afghan #1, Maple Leaf indica, etc). There are a number of strains like this on the commercial market. Even my pet Williams Wonder, which is one of many American acclimated West-Coast indicas, is supposed to be descended from a pure mountainous Afghan indica and may qualify. Petrolia Headstash is another sort of like this, and there are others.

Confusing this a tiny bit, Flying Dutchman se-eds has a strain they call "Afghanica", which is actually an Afghan x skunk hybrid, so strictly speaking, it probably doesn't meet the above definition.

 

[SCARHOLE]

Three year old strain. . .I always wonder how these get resurrected. . .
.

I'm working with MOB now an will try and make s2
But many prefer a sillillar male crossed & bx.

Mli sounds like a good cross...

 

[PJ Diaz]

LA Confidential might be a good parent to consider.

 

[TonightYou]

I've been thinking of growing out some Sensi. Was curious if any one has grown out either Maple leaf indica or their Afghan #1.
Growing out World of Seeds Afghan Kush Special. Kinda digging its stature, self support and quick flowering time. Just thinking there are better strains to grow.

 

[jamboss]

Seedsman seeds has a afghan #1 that i've read good things about and it's pretty cheap.

 

[SCARHOLE]

A friend "Ortega seeker" vouched for MLi being the Same as the old day in 09.
not sure about it after that....

 

[BWG707]

Eva Seeds has TNT Kush which is a pure Pakistanani Indica. I grew some outdoors and it performed great. Easy to grow, low nutrient needs and very potent and fragrant buds. Smells a lot like a citrus hash. I made some dry sieve kief (since its considered a hash making plant) from it and everyone said it tasted like candy. Not Afgani, but probably very similar.

 

[Jogro]

Eva seeds has TNT Kush which is a pure Pakistanani Indica. . . Not Afgani, but probably very similar.

Probably.

I think its worth mentioning here that "Afghanistan" and "Pakistan" are both relatively modern countries.

Prior to the post WWII breakup of the British Empire, there was no "Pakistan" as its own country; the area was ruled by a series of empires going back thousands of years. Afghanistan as a stand-alone country goes back further, but the point is the two countries share a 1500+ mile porous border, the dividing line between the two countries wasn't always a well-drawn line on a map (and is still probably blurry in many places), and both areas have basically the same hash-making tradition going back thousands of years.

So I'd imagine there really isn't much of a difference between plants, genetically speaking, from any near the borders here.

 

[yesum]

I grew out the MLI, Afghan Kush, and Afghani #1 from Seedsman. I liked the MLI the best. Great plants, stable genetics, very pleasant high.

The Afghan #1 was a calm high with lower yields, good stuff for cheap. The Afghan Kush from WOS or Real Seed, can not remember, was a good high but I favor the MLI.

I have SAD from Sweet Seeds, GDP from Ken, Maple Leaf Indica form Sensi, and Humboldt Purple from Classic Seeds as my regular indicas. I started with the landrace thing, both indica and sativa, and now just go with whatever seed description sounds interesting. I am over the landrace being better idea. I will still check one out now and then.

 

[Jogro]

Can anyone recommend a good commercial version of Mazari Shariff?

That one is supposed to be the "king" of the Afghan hash strains, having been purpose bred for thousands of years to make sieved hash.

 

[OGEvilgenius]

Probably.

I think its worth mentioning here that "Afghanistan" and "Pakistan" are both relatively modern countries.

Prior to the post WWII breakup of the British Empire, there was no "Pakistan" as its own country; the area was ruled by a series of empires going back thousands of years. Afghanistan as a stand-alone country goes back further, but the point is the two countries share a 1500+ mile porous border, the dividing line between the two countries wasn't always a well-drawn line on a map (and is still probably blurry in many places), and both areas have basically the same hash-making tradition going back thousands of years.

So I'd imagine there really isn't much of a difference between plants, genetically speaking, from any near the borders here.

I've seen people post about quite a bit of variety given the area is quite huge. At least prewar anyway. Long flowering, short flowering. Given the mountain terrain it isn't illogical to think that people didn't travel much and that pollen couldn't necessarily be easily dispersed everywhere. I do know I had some Afghani when I was younger that was completely paranoia inducing. Granted I was a teenager and our brains are quite a bit different, but it wasn't like most Afghani's I've had. Recently I've run into one at a dispensary that has given me the giggles and the buds are kind of sparse and not that large. They really don't look good, but they smell really nice (and unique as hell) and they work quite well even for someone with high tolerance like myself.

Reminds me more of a sativa than an indica again.