Please, I don't wanna watch 'em DIE!!?

[RKT]

I have my plants outside and bring them inside during bad weather and at night. But recently everytime i bring the plants outside they end up getting infested with spider mites. So i spray them with vinegar, water and soap solution that gets rid of them. But then if i bring them outside the next day they get more spider mite. I already have little tiny bugs in my soil that i don't think are doing any harm.

However the biggest problem is that I now have picked out a spot to plant them outside and since i can't keep them inside due to smell and other reasons i am going to have to plant them soon. My concern is, a side form spraying them almost everyday, is that i am worried that once they start to flower the spider mites will start to eat the buds and i can't do anything about it because i can't spray the buds. I am going to switch to neem oil soon but i still can't spray the buds with that. What do i do?!

 

[shenagen]

Oh man...thats a tight spot you're in. I'd do my best to get rid of them asap. I read about some stuff that is supposed to work well. I'll go find the article and get back with you.

 

[tsdriles06]

sence you brought them inside once with mites on them every time you bring them inside you will have mites once they are outside spary the shit out of them give them some nutes and you will be fine

 

[shenagen]

Ok found it...its Safer's brand and its called End-All II. It is supposed to get those bastards in all their stages of life.

 

[RKT]

Thanks for the help. But is the safer brand okay to spray on the buds? Before i bring the plants inside i spray them and the soil. It seems no matter if i kill the ones on the plant there is always more. So i am worried that even if i get ride of them they might appear later on the buds once they started to flower. And i don't want to be inhaling any chemicals that taste awful.

 

[Dabu]

I don't think you want to spray the buds. If you spray the stems and the leaves with some strong enough stuff, I'm assuming the bugs will have no way to get to the buds (unless they drop out of the sky or hop from plant to plant). How far away is your plant from flowering?

 

[shenagen]

Its fine before flowering. I'd also spray the crap out of the area you are going to have them with some strong insecticide(not sure what) to help lessen the chances of later infestations.

 

[RKT]

Thanks for your help, i will look in Home Depot for some Safer Brand solution if i can't find it i will make my own i guess. It is mostly water soap neem oil etc. Wish me look, i hope everything works out. Thanks

 

[shenagen]

There are lots of safer products...I'd use the exact one I was saying. The rev in skunk recomends it. Also I don't think its just soap and stuff. The pic of it says its a miticide, insecticide, and agrocide(?)

 

[RKT]

There are lots of safer products...I'd use the exact one I was saying. The rev in skunk recomends it. Also I don't think its just soap and stuff. The pic of it says its a miticide, insecticide, and agrocide(?)

Oh, i couldn't find the 'End-All II' on the website so i just found another product for spidermites. Could you post the link? And do you know if the miticide, insecticide, and agrocide is gentle stuff - natural, harmless to plants etc?

 

[RKT]

I have never had so much trouble growing plants. I must be a bad botanist. Anyways, here are some pictures of plant problems i need help diagnosing. I have little tiny white bugs in the soil, some are brown and as you know from this thread, a recent spider mite problem. I don't think there are anymore on the plants tho.

The plants are inside now and are going to stay there for a couple of weeks, they have been inside since the 21st i think. The tiny spots are all over the most healthy plant i have. The bronzing is on the young small plant and an old small plant. The patches around the edges i think are magnesium deficiency so i have been giving it epsom salts. they are all in veg. state.

Thanks for the help, these plants have caused me so much stress. Problem after problem

 

[RKT]

Here are the pictures.

 

[honkeytown]

I have spider mites too...I had nailed em but they came back...damn eggs I figure...so I have been researching our issue all day and i found that if you use something with pyrethrin in it you should be okay...I am about to spray the hell out of my buds with it so I will let you know how it goes.....the stuff I am gonna use id from lowes..it's from schultz and is garden safe brand houseplant and garden insect killer. I am personally freaking about having to use this stuff so close to harvest but I have no choice...I hate hearing screams while I am getting high...lol...i will keep you updated

 

[420inmyapt]

I have spider mites too...I had nailed em but they came back...damn eggs I figure...so I have been researching our issue all day and i found that if you use something with pyrethrin in it you should be okay...I am about to spray the hell out of my buds with it so I will let you know how it goes.....the stuff I am gonna use id from lowes..it's from schultz and is garden safe brand houseplant and garden insect killer. I am personally freaking about having to use this stuff so close to harvest but I have no choice...I hate hearing screams while I am getting high...lol...i will keep you updated

"I hate hearing screams while I am getting high..."


hahaha priceless.... +rep for you sir

 

[RKT]

Ya, thanks honkeytown, id really appreciate you letting me know how it goes.

but Can anyone tell me whats wrong with my plants they are getting worse. I think the bronzing is from when i srpayed them with vinegar, soap, and water but they continue to get worse and shrivel up even tho i sprayed them a lot with water when they were out of the sun. I think i might lose the last 3 of my plants! I don't know what to do !

 

[honkeytown]

Ya, thanks honkeytown, id really appreciate you letting me know how it goes.

but Can anyone tell me whats wrong with my plants they are getting worse. I think the bronzing is from when i srpayed them with vinegar, soap, and water but they continue to get worse and shrivel up even tho i sprayed them a lot with water when they were out of the sun. I think i might lose the last 3 of my plants! I don't know what to do !

well bro...my plant is doin great after yesterday. havent found one mite on her. I hit it with that insecticide....then soap water...then water rinse. so dont be afraid to spray those bastards to death. As far as your plant goes....I think you will be okay....I may recommend taking it up and mixing the soil a little more then checking the ph on it.....the ph needs to be even throughout the soil....do you know what the ph is day to day?

 

[RKT]

I am busy untill thursday so thats when i will get the pH tester. They need to be transplanted as well. I am going to add new soil due to the bugs.

Thanks for the advice! I hope the last 3 plants can make it. Will the quality/quantity of the buds be reduced tho due to the stress they have been through? And i will look in Home Depot for some spray with pyrethrin. Is it a natural insecticide? I have read about using neem oil, do you think that would work to keep them off once i use the insecticide?

Sorry for the load of questions, i just need a lot a help lol

 

[honkeytown]

I am busy untill thursday so thats when i will get the pH tester. They need to be transplanted as well. I am going to add new soil due to the bugs.

Thanks for the advice! I hope the last 3 plants can make it. Will the quality/quantity of the buds be reduced tho due to the stress they have been through? And i will look in Home Depot for some spray with pyrethrin. Is it a natural insecticide? I have read about using neem oil, do you think that would work to keep them off once i use the insecticide?

Sorry for the load of questions, i just need a lot a help lol

pyrethrin will kill all the mites....neem oil is more of a blah way to do it....doesn't do shit to the eggs really...I would say use the pyrethrin...but the neem will be good after...so yes. The quality and quantity will be slightly reduced but I wouldnt worry about it too much. remember when transplanting them to loosen the outer roots of the rootball so they can integrate into the new soil easier. They should be okay

 

[SquirrelGod]

I use Schults brand fruits and vegetable bug killer that kills bugs without killing plants, I have had amazing results and apparently it's safe enough to use even up to day of harvest, it's made from Botanical Pyrethrins from Chrysanthemum flowers. I got mine at walmart for $1.24 and I have a huge bottle.

 

[BOOMSTER]

Is it ok to spray before you get mites.will that have any effect on the plant
and with what