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Don Gin and Ton
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Lol.I'm an equal opportunity drinker ghb. Tho I gotta say I don't much like Irish whiskey, pocheen on the other hand I'm down with!
Don Gin and Ton
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I gin regularly anyway my friend. I'm devastated, my buddy I made the cider with brought some today. Its oxidized. Smells beautiful but tasted like rats piss. Its deceptive, the first half second it tastes lovely then the aftertaste is horrible. He did bring a bottle of hop spirit though. Chinook hop Vodka. For those moments when you need to hop a beer off its tits.
curious old fart
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Seems all is not well in football land......
'It's £50,000 for a red card': Three arrested after top footballers filmed 'admitting they fix matches for betting fraudsters'
Police arrest three people after claims made by player Sam Sodje
Sam Sodje reportedly claimed he can influence events in games for cash
He claims he can get players to 'get yellow cards for £30,000, red for £50,000'
Betting syndicates can profit by placing large bets on card being handed out
He can get crooked players to manipulate World Cup games, report states
By Sam Webb
PUBLISHED: 04:45 EST, 8 December 2013 | UPDATED: 12:53 EST, 8 December 2013
Police have arrested three people in connection with a second investigation into football spot-fixing following allegations that a player rigged a Championship game in return for cash.
The National Crime Agency (NCA) acted after
ex-Premier League footballer Sam Sodje was filmed bragging that he can arrange for professional footballers to get yellow cards or even sent off in return for cash.
The Sun on Sunday handed over information on Sodje, gathered over a period of four months by an undercover reporter posing as a middleman for a betting syndicate based in the Far East.
In the video, 34-year-old Nigerian defender Sodje brags that he can arrange for a player to get themselves booked for a £30,000 pay-out, and that he could guarantee certain events in play in return for money.
Fraudsters can capitalise on this through in-game betting, where they put large bets on incidents like red and yellow cards, penalties and even corner kicks.
In the video recorded by an undercover reporter from the Sun on Sunday , Sodje claimed he fixed it for an ex-Premier League player, who now plays in the Championship, to get a yellow card and can even organise similar such events in Premier League games - for a much greater price because of the huge fines for players at that level.
Sodje, who played for Portsmouth and also in the top flight at Reading, even said he was preparing to fix matches at next year's World Cup in Brazil.
An NCA spokeswoman said: 'An active NCA investigation is now under way and we are working closely with the Football Association and the Gambling Commission.
Three people are in custody and are being questioned by NCA officers. We cannot comment further at this stage.'
In the Sun on Sunday footage, Sodje said it was child's play for a player to get a yellow card, as they are so common no one suspects anything is amiss and the player can continue playing afterwards.
He said: 'This guy came to meet me at my house and it was sorted. That's how easy it is - it's nothing.'
Sodje and his brother Stephen claimed they could even get players sent off - an event which can cripple a team's chances in a game - for between £50,000 and £70,000.
He said he could set up a bet an entire week before a game, while his brother warned the reporter not to pay one player rumoured to be involved in fixing matches because the sportsman was already under scrutiny.
Sodje spoke of a meeting a Premiership player in a Manchester hotel room, as well as at the home of another to discuss a potential fix.
The footage also shows him admitting punching an opponent in the groin to get sent off for a £70,000 pay-out.
While playing for Portsmouth, Sodje punched Oldham Athletic's Jose Baxter twice in the game, which took place in February.
Sodje also boasted that having pocketed £70,000 from the gambling ring, even after his £10,000 fine he was still £60,000 better off.
He said: 'Do you know how much I got fined? I got fined ten grand and I missed six games.'
He said he had to launch the bizarre attack, which his then-manager at Portsmouth, Guy Whittingham, described as 'inexcusable', as the referee had not been booking him for tackling.
Spotting his chance after a tackle by Baxter, Sodje ran up to his opponent and punched him in the crotch - to the shock of spectators.
The reporters also claim to have met with Cristian Montano, who was alledgedly supposed to get booked in a game against Wolverhampton Wanderers in the first half - but failed.
The 21-year-old Colombian reportedly claims he was 'hacking' opposition players and even swore at the ref but did not get carded, offering to fix another game to make amends.
Sodje had called former Notts County teammate Montano to a hotel to explain himself.
The fixer showed the reporter text messages from Montano explaining that he had dived for penalties and pulled other players' shirts, only to receive just one booking - for a clean tackle.
Montano's current club Oldham Athletic said in a statement: 'Oldham Athletic Football Club has been made aware of the incident and allegation surrounding one of its players, Cristian Montano. The club will commence an immediate internal investigation to establish all the relevant facts of the case.
'The club is co-operating with other agencies in this matter and cannot comment on specific facts at this stage. The club will not be issuing any further statements at this time.'
In the video, Sodje also claimed that another of his brother's Akpo, 33, who plays for Tranmere Rovers in League One, would get booked in each of his next six games in exchange for cash.
He said that the brothers were trying to prepare for a life after football.
Portsmouth FC spokesman Colin Farmery said: 'If these serious allegations are true then we are extremely shocked and saddened by them, as match-fixing of any type goes to the heart of the integrity of the game.
'The player in question no longer plays for the club and we have not been contacted by the authorities, but of course we would cooperate fully with any inquiry.'
It is thought that illegal betting syndicates are worth £320billion worldwide, with the practice on the rise because of the growing popularity of gambling during games, and the ease of in-play betting.
A large proportion of the money is generated in Asia, where gambling is largely unregulated, as opposed to Europe.
Speaking about the latest reports, Football League chief executive Shaun Harvey said: 'We treat any allegations of criminal activity in our competitions with the utmost seriousness.
'Given that there is an ongoing police investigation into this matter, we cannot comment further at this time. Although, we would encourage anyone with any evidence to report it to the police.
'We will be giving our full assistance to the police during their investigation.'
A spokesman from the Football Association said: 'The FA is aware of the National Crime Agency investigation and is working closely with the NCA and other authorities. We will make no further comment at this time.'
A Gambling Commission spokesman said: 'The Gambling Commission has responded quickly in supporting this ongoing National Crime Agency investigation and continues to liaise with both the NCA and the Football Association.'
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2520102/Its-50-000-red-card-Three-arrested-footballers-filmed-admitting-fix-matches-betting-fraudsters.html#ixzz2mueugNcO
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'It's £50,000 for a red card': Three arrested after top footballers filmed 'admitting they fix matches for betting fraudsters'
Police arrest three people after claims made by player Sam Sodje
Sam Sodje reportedly claimed he can influence events in games for cash
He claims he can get players to 'get yellow cards for £30,000, red for £50,000'
Betting syndicates can profit by placing large bets on card being handed out
He can get crooked players to manipulate World Cup games, report states
By Sam Webb
PUBLISHED: 04:45 EST, 8 December 2013 | UPDATED: 12:53 EST, 8 December 2013
Police have arrested three people in connection with a second investigation into football spot-fixing following allegations that a player rigged a Championship game in return for cash.
The National Crime Agency (NCA) acted after
ex-Premier League footballer Sam Sodje was filmed bragging that he can arrange for professional footballers to get yellow cards or even sent off in return for cash.
The Sun on Sunday handed over information on Sodje, gathered over a period of four months by an undercover reporter posing as a middleman for a betting syndicate based in the Far East.
In the video, 34-year-old Nigerian defender Sodje brags that he can arrange for a player to get themselves booked for a £30,000 pay-out, and that he could guarantee certain events in play in return for money.
Fraudsters can capitalise on this through in-game betting, where they put large bets on incidents like red and yellow cards, penalties and even corner kicks.
In the video recorded by an undercover reporter from the Sun on Sunday , Sodje claimed he fixed it for an ex-Premier League player, who now plays in the Championship, to get a yellow card and can even organise similar such events in Premier League games - for a much greater price because of the huge fines for players at that level.
Sodje, who played for Portsmouth and also in the top flight at Reading, even said he was preparing to fix matches at next year's World Cup in Brazil.
An NCA spokeswoman said: 'An active NCA investigation is now under way and we are working closely with the Football Association and the Gambling Commission.
Three people are in custody and are being questioned by NCA officers. We cannot comment further at this stage.'
In the Sun on Sunday footage, Sodje said it was child's play for a player to get a yellow card, as they are so common no one suspects anything is amiss and the player can continue playing afterwards.
He said: 'This guy came to meet me at my house and it was sorted. That's how easy it is - it's nothing.'
Sodje and his brother Stephen claimed they could even get players sent off - an event which can cripple a team's chances in a game - for between £50,000 and £70,000.
He said he could set up a bet an entire week before a game, while his brother warned the reporter not to pay one player rumoured to be involved in fixing matches because the sportsman was already under scrutiny.
Sodje spoke of a meeting a Premiership player in a Manchester hotel room, as well as at the home of another to discuss a potential fix.
The footage also shows him admitting punching an opponent in the groin to get sent off for a £70,000 pay-out.
While playing for Portsmouth, Sodje punched Oldham Athletic's Jose Baxter twice in the game, which took place in February.
Sodje also boasted that having pocketed £70,000 from the gambling ring, even after his £10,000 fine he was still £60,000 better off.
He said: 'Do you know how much I got fined? I got fined ten grand and I missed six games.'
He said he had to launch the bizarre attack, which his then-manager at Portsmouth, Guy Whittingham, described as 'inexcusable', as the referee had not been booking him for tackling.
Spotting his chance after a tackle by Baxter, Sodje ran up to his opponent and punched him in the crotch - to the shock of spectators.
The reporters also claim to have met with Cristian Montano, who was alledgedly supposed to get booked in a game against Wolverhampton Wanderers in the first half - but failed.
The 21-year-old Colombian reportedly claims he was 'hacking' opposition players and even swore at the ref but did not get carded, offering to fix another game to make amends.
Sodje had called former Notts County teammate Montano to a hotel to explain himself.
The fixer showed the reporter text messages from Montano explaining that he had dived for penalties and pulled other players' shirts, only to receive just one booking - for a clean tackle.
Montano's current club Oldham Athletic said in a statement: 'Oldham Athletic Football Club has been made aware of the incident and allegation surrounding one of its players, Cristian Montano. The club will commence an immediate internal investigation to establish all the relevant facts of the case.
'The club is co-operating with other agencies in this matter and cannot comment on specific facts at this stage. The club will not be issuing any further statements at this time.'
In the video, Sodje also claimed that another of his brother's Akpo, 33, who plays for Tranmere Rovers in League One, would get booked in each of his next six games in exchange for cash.
He said that the brothers were trying to prepare for a life after football.
Portsmouth FC spokesman Colin Farmery said: 'If these serious allegations are true then we are extremely shocked and saddened by them, as match-fixing of any type goes to the heart of the integrity of the game.
'The player in question no longer plays for the club and we have not been contacted by the authorities, but of course we would cooperate fully with any inquiry.'
It is thought that illegal betting syndicates are worth £320billion worldwide, with the practice on the rise because of the growing popularity of gambling during games, and the ease of in-play betting.
A large proportion of the money is generated in Asia, where gambling is largely unregulated, as opposed to Europe.
Speaking about the latest reports, Football League chief executive Shaun Harvey said: 'We treat any allegations of criminal activity in our competitions with the utmost seriousness.
'Given that there is an ongoing police investigation into this matter, we cannot comment further at this time. Although, we would encourage anyone with any evidence to report it to the police.
'We will be giving our full assistance to the police during their investigation.'
A spokesman from the Football Association said: 'The FA is aware of the National Crime Agency investigation and is working closely with the NCA and other authorities. We will make no further comment at this time.'
A Gambling Commission spokesman said: 'The Gambling Commission has responded quickly in supporting this ongoing National Crime Agency investigation and continues to liaise with both the NCA and the Football Association.'
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2520102/Its-50-000-red-card-Three-arrested-footballers-filmed-admitting-fix-matches-betting-fraudsters.html#ixzz2mueugNcO
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Don Gin and Ton
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hardly surprising really, any sport where the money is that high will be rife with corruption. Football probably more so than most sport i would bet. especially with the top bods being openly crooked lol, Seth Blatter!?!? they all eventually come a cropper though. and those sort of gangs don't mess around.
only about a mile from my home, few years back there was a pretty brutal killing of two chinese students (and their cat bizarrely). who had apparently been relaying messages to a syndicate during football games when a team had scored so the gang could get a bet on in the time delay between the feed to china.
only about a mile from my home, few years back there was a pretty brutal killing of two chinese students (and their cat bizarrely). who had apparently been relaying messages to a syndicate during football games when a team had scored so the gang could get a bet on in the time delay between the feed to china.
Don Gin and Ton
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i reckon sunderland are going to be looked at next 5 own goals in 9 games..... or it could just be they're utter shite.
curious old fart
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what an authority of whisky has to say...
American bourbon now better than Scottish whiskey: U.K.-born expert
By Jessica Chasmar
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The Washington Times
Monday, December 9, 2013
Jim Murray, an English writer and one of the worlds top whiskey critics, believes Scottish malt is no match for American whiskey.
Generally speaking, bourbon has overtaken Scotch, he said, according to the Telegraph.
Mr. Murray, who wrote Jim Murrays Whisky Bible, argues that Scotlands decrease in quality whiskey is due to the use of sulphur candles to sanitize some barrels that have been used to age sherry, giving it a bitter finish.
Bourbon, however, is aged in virgin oak casks, which do not require sulphur treatment, the Telegraph said.
The best whiskey is coming not from Scotland any more, but from Kentucky, he said, adding that Buffalo Trace, a bourbon distillery in Frankfort, Ky., is arguably the best distillery in the world.
Rosemary Gallagher, the spokeswoman for the Scotch Whisky Association, argued that Mr. Murrays claims are only a matter of his personal taste.
Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/dec/9/english-born-whiskey-critic-says-scotch-out-americ/#ixzz2n2KkmxHW
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I get the idea he has an aversion to sulphur candles.
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American bourbon now better than Scottish whiskey: U.K.-born expert
By Jessica Chasmar
-
The Washington Times
Monday, December 9, 2013
Jim Murray, an English writer and one of the worlds top whiskey critics, believes Scottish malt is no match for American whiskey.
Generally speaking, bourbon has overtaken Scotch, he said, according to the Telegraph.
Mr. Murray, who wrote Jim Murrays Whisky Bible, argues that Scotlands decrease in quality whiskey is due to the use of sulphur candles to sanitize some barrels that have been used to age sherry, giving it a bitter finish.
Bourbon, however, is aged in virgin oak casks, which do not require sulphur treatment, the Telegraph said.
The best whiskey is coming not from Scotland any more, but from Kentucky, he said, adding that Buffalo Trace, a bourbon distillery in Frankfort, Ky., is arguably the best distillery in the world.
Rosemary Gallagher, the spokeswoman for the Scotch Whisky Association, argued that Mr. Murrays claims are only a matter of his personal taste.
Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/dec/9/english-born-whiskey-critic-says-scotch-out-americ/#ixzz2n2KkmxHW
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter
I get the idea he has an aversion to sulphur candles.
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Don Gin and Ton
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Cof man bourbon is a totally different spirit in my eyes. I do like the odd bourbon I'd generally go for a scotch. Horses for courses
Don Gin and Ton
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i've admitted defeat and bought a bottle of gnat off. sand only slowed the winged bastards down.
where is that saying from horses for courses??
Don Gin and Ton
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I'm not 100% mate but i dug this up "horses for courses: A mostly British expression urging someone to stick to the thing he knows best, horses for courses comes from the horse racing world, where it is widely assumed that some horses race better on certain courses than on others. In 1898 a British writer noted in the first recorded use of the expression: 'A familiar phrase on the turf is 'horses for courses.'"
man i'm not in great shape presently, my back is spasming erratically. and the missus might not be too happy if i just upped and left lol.
budbro18
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Have fun in Oregon! You should do some cherry pie S1s while youre there!!! haha
Aye Bring the missus and fuk the back we will work it out.. Get you a special message...LOL. Thanks for the horses for courses Tony Jacklin said it to me the other day re: his Son
Don Gin and Ton
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I'll get back over there in a year or so anyway man. To NYC. Forgive my total lack of geographic knowledge here but is that far to Oregon? I'll google it lol sorry. If I make it that far over I'm going to hit you up regardless.
Don Gin and Ton
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Yeah looking at it its a help of A trip lol it'd be easier to flu cross the state's to visit. Tell me its nice n warm though at least!?
Nope....Sorry.. close to the same Long and Lat line as Scotland