Thanks for the info ..I ran into a link on subcools super soil mix also the moonsine mix is where u mix different fox farm soils then just add water i might go with one of these I got some bubblelious seeds and i hear soil brings out the taste and so i wanted to learn soil I got 15 autos in a dwc system now but i want to bring out the sweetness in the bubble for my next grow do u have any expirence with these soil mixes? and do u know if i can start seeds on top soil mixed with alot of perlite and will humus and manure be enough to take it thru veg its at 0.5 on all npk will seedling be burned by that if all is mixes together (top soil, perlite , humus and manure)? cause i might try it on one or 2 of my bubble seeds to get a mother plant then but my clones on the good soil or is it a bad idea i have other plants and this stuff is just laying around. thanks again