yeah i thaught of that too man but im going with shallow water culture next time ... i thaught about ur way and to much chance of hitting a tube when fucking around and theres 25 gallons of water in the apt lol this way worked but i wouldnt do it again ... and im telling you man ... lollypop and go on my thread look back a few pages from the end and read raidermans trimming technique .... its a fucking genius move im doing it next time around for sure.... i got way to many airy nugs this time around...... the tops look great but theres probly 50% airy underneith and towards the middle... no ones guna want that shit man .... do it raidermans way and youl have a shit load of 20 inch colas and youl be laughing lateron .... and veg them big as you can if u dont nedd to move them and your going to do what i just said because it will be all big colas man ..... remember theyl double or triple in size pending on ur strain ... happy growing