Hey laserbrn, just read through one of your old journals from 2007, very informative, thanks for the info, just wanted to ask a quick question ( if you can remember) how tall did the plants finish, oh im referring to the 250 watt grow with no veg/lil veg period, im looking to do the same soon and have ltd height space of 97.5 cm to air cooled lights and wanting to finish them 12 inches away at least giving me 2 ft of usable space, by the way am using next gen dynamite know for being short squat, thanks in advance and keep up the great work.