i have been to several places, theres nothing as well organised and dedicated as MP. the old PG had very cool users, it crashed too... RIU is like the new OG, just a big site for anyone who wants to talk about mj. you can get really great info from in here. but you have to look and ask a lot. actually i have found the most useful info in here well before i ever signed up. someone linked me to an old RIU thread cuz at MP i couldnt get good info aout that specific issue and it saved me. really in here you can see the whole world of cannabis, so it's different. have you seen the vertical setups and the very big setups in RIU? i say we wait for MP to be back. i still have some hope. if not i'll look for another place i can call home, but i'll certainly stay around here too...