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I think you, specifically, might have confused independent thinking with simply holding unpopular, unsubstantiated claims of a conspiratorial nature.

lol... me too, strange how we come to opposite conclusions... it's almost as if personnel opinion doesn't always lead you too the truth! (It helps to have lasers in your eyes too, don't you find...) Seriously where do you get facts/information/knowledge beside through your third eye.

Yeah, the hypocrite nerve... it's very sensitive in me.

and if conservatives HAD THEIR way we would all still have slaves... So I guess I'm going to take the time out to call you a troll as well. BTW if Republicans had their way swearing, evolution and alcohol would be illegal and everyone would have to be Christian. Also Marijuana would be...

You're going to tell me that this thread didn't start as a troll??? Is AHHHHahahahah a valid debate title? Didn't this thread/debate open up with "Oh my God, hahahaha, did anyone else see this gay ass save the polar bear commercial??? Holy shit, I think I peed myself. What a crock of shit, I...

I got four strains from cannabisseeds.com... all of them ended up growing/looking exactly the same. The plant grows tall and lanky, with really loose buds... 11-12 weeks to harvest... loves lots of fertilizer... very Sativa like... I've allowed one plant to got to harvest and I will let people...

Where do you get YOUR information please.

Yes, I believe they too are crazy, although I've personally never met, or even run into someone in these or any other forums who 'glorifies the state'. I think we can add... Hyperbole and... Oversimplification of complex issues ... to the list. I have to thank natron23 for posting that...

I think you'll have an easier time convincing these contrarians if you were fat and sweaty, yelled a lot, and had no credentials, (you might want to stress your lack of education ex. make more misspellings, dismiss experts, etc.)... maybe some links to shady sites with all kinds of other...

Oh, this looks like a fun match... who can out crazy the other one... cleavage guy opens with 'Liberals are destroying us' card... then sherri counters with 'Liberals and Republicans are destroying us'. Will Cleavage guy (isn't that the same avatar Milton Friedman uses?) be able to come back or...

Um, why are you arguing with these morons? Don't quote them science... science is a conspiracy, along with the news and 'facts'. If you want to get a point across to these inbreeds try quoting people out of context and pointing to meaningless anecdotes... or simply stating the opposite of what...

Thanks for the idea... ... I use ice as well.

Well, now if you do the 2 gallon pots you will be able to directly compare. How tall did you let the ones in the 3 gallon pots get?

You mean you planted them 7 days ago and only 4 ('like 4'? does that mean 3 or 5?) germinated? How many seeds are a few hundred dollars worth (like 4 out of how many)? Do you also mean that of the like 4 that germinated they only grew 1/8 of an inch and stopped growing or died? Sounds like you...

I find that annoying when they spell marijuana 'marihuana'. That's like spelling jalapeno, 'halapeno'. And why do they allow you to grow more indoor plants than outdoor plants? Doesn't indoor yield more than outdoor (if you compare the same sized plants)?

Humidity/ Temps?

If your using a 400W you don't want to let your plants get too tall (the 400W HPS light doesn't penetrate as much as a 600 or 1000).

I updated my response after you read...

Yeah, that's my question. OK, for instance... I start my seed in a half liter pot and by the time it has its first set of true leaves it's already close to needing to be transplanted, whereas I have a few clones in the same pot, plant is 3 or 4 times bigger and has half the root development...

Don't plants grown from seed require more room for root development than clones? I thought that was the case, but I notice a lot of people entering the competition with seeds, so maybe that assumption I have is incorrect?