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Again, please post details of your grow with 400umoles.

Do you have a detailed documented grow at your 400µmols? If so can you link me or post the details here? By all means if I can yield the same with 400µmols as 1500+, I am all for it.

Wow, you must be a super yielder with DE to even think about 60oz. Even if you pull 3oz per plant, that is pretty incredible and pretty much unbelievable (literally). You are talking about 1260g @ 3oz per plant. Regardless, even if you yielded 50g per plant @ that veg time, that would be a...

What light are you growing with (grew with)? 4oz is not much. If you are pushing even a 250w DE and only achieving 4oz, something is wrong....

What are your current yields? Everyone yields differently. Everyone grows differently. If you grow a low yielding strain, there is no light that can magically double that. What are your expectations of the upcoming grow for yields (strain, veg, lighting, sq footage used)?

I mean if you are set on Gavita's, price does not matter? Gavita is pretty much top end of the DE HPS setups as far as complete setups go. That said, if you have all the equipment for SE HPS, I wouldnt think the 10% is enough to warrant the cost. Jumping into LED which can have higher...

Another troll post from the trolling group. Why even post up? Oh yeah, thats the job of your little group. Troll every thread possible and create 420mag.

If you arent interested in LED, then go with a DE. If you feel equipment is expensive, why make this thread? Gavitas run about $400 a piece USD just use your own equipment.

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This is Yodaweeds other account. Just ignore him GG707

Because he is... We both know it....

Stop trolling Yoda. You are a joke.

You have the data sheets. Thats all you need right? Data doesnt lie. LED if done right is far more efficient. If you think growing high THC strains for medicinal is what you need, you should stop lying to yourself.

You posted a datasheet that you did not understand. GJ

Claims? Really? Ive posted plenty of shit and pics to back up my shit. Maybe you havent been around long enough. I never said HID is crap but LED is superior. Many other people have backed their shit up with LED. You are just one of the ignorant few who cannot accept an adapting market.

Great, no one does it, but in the end it effects the efficiency levels. The longer the bulb runs, the less efficient it is so when someone talks about HPS/MH/CMH being more efficient than LED, they need to take that into account. Grow with COBs after growing with whatever. You will quickly...

More moronic statements from clueless people. Running CXB3590 @ 50% is giving you 56% efficiency. No Gavita can get close to that number. Want to spend 4x the cost of Gavita? Now you are looking at 70% efficiency from COBs if not better. Better yields, lower energy and cooling costs, evens...

Get a hold of Jerry w/ KingBrite. He may be able to help you source most of those parts.

Stop spreading FUD. You do not HAVE to run lenses or reflectors to be effective at all. Many of us do not run any optics and do well. I am going to have to wait about 2 weeks before I know my total for this time around but my past 2 LED grows have resulted in good yields and neither were...

Troll much? T5 over LED? You are obviously trolling. Please dont listen to this retardedness.