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Kirklands Environmental Safe friendly dish-soap is my go to. BUT some popular hydrostore ones are Coco-wet and SM-90.

This is a killer idea! The permaclone collars has a gap in them specifically so sterilizers can access the center portion.

I've been using PermaClone for years. They fade over time, but are easy to sterilize. They're way expesnive but I can vouch for their longevity. I pressure cooked them until they started promoting their microwave sterilization methods recently.

Thanks @lime73 ! ...yeah, I think it's astute you recognized the Phosphorus symptom, but now that I know you're in soil-less mix, it is clear you're probably deficient on everything...the Phosphorus is just showing up sooner. I have heard recent reports that Purple petioles is also associate...

Since I love different strains I run into this all the time. No stress, just buy a couple products. They're expensive, but will last. Products with Spinosad (derived from a bacteria), pyrethrins (derived from Chrysamthemums), or azacirachtin (derived from Neem oil) are all safe solutions in...

Ok, so the foxfarms product "Grow Big" would be full spectrum and have NPK along w/ calcium, magnesium, iron, etc. Although, since you started in Pro Mix, I would recommend a nutrient designed for soil-less mixes. Pro MIx doesn't have any nutritional value, so You want to use a good soil-less...

Sorry, coffee is still kicking in! Tiger Bloom is specific to flower and is mostly PK, I'd recommend their grow formula. I'm not remembering it's name...let me go search. I'll be back.

Good point. @covarrubias farmer! ...it's a cold time of year and that could definitely be slowing things down!

I would take cuts from the strains you want as back-up and let them flower. If you're not savy at cutting, cull one to re-veg and shoot for ATLEAST 16 - 18 hours of light...clearly 14 hours allowed them to flower. As for flowering them, start feeding nutrients for week 3 - 4 of flower based on...

I think it's an all around definiciency, including magnesium and phosphorus. What soil did you start off in? Pots size? AND how long they've been growing in those pots? I can probably help from there. I wouldn't use Tiger bloom, I'd use Fox Farms base nutrients if your soil is depleated OR...

Could be thrips or spider mite. Are those clones? What does the understide of the leaf look like? Can you find any small bugs...both these bugs are tiny, but not microscopic.

The only thing that has slowed me down from seed is over feeding OR if they simply germinated slowly. Did they germinate quickly? ...and then then take 3 weeks to get to where they're at in that picture?

What ever you got going on, you definitely aren't in a bad spot. Are you adding nutrients? It's a common mistake to add nutrients too early when it's best to let them pull from their cotyledons for a minute. Still, you situation doesn't look dire.

The doses of Canna Coco A/B you're using are conservative such that you you should add nutrients daily. Based on my experience with the canna line, you're probably only adding about 300 - 400 ppm nutrients with those doses and to then come back later and knock away those already LOW nutrients...

I've usually treated that by boosting the potassium side of my nutrients. With that said, they do look WELL fed from the standpoint of nitrogen and all other micros/macros. IF you're on a 3 part, I'd pull back a little on the micro and boost the bloom a bit.

Yeah, I don't sea any nanners or stamen...looks like all female pistiles to me.

If your lights are off most straing do something called photonasty where their leafs droop during lights off. They engage in phototropism once the lights turn back on. Could this be what you saw? The second issue that comes to mind is over watering. Are you letting you Ocean Forest go 75 -80%...

Hey buddy! Sorry for offending you with the Permaclone posts. I was trying to be helpful to both those struggling with cloning AND permaclone. How do you clone? I feel like I see DWC in your picture??

Good advice is good advice. What does spam mean, anyhow? I feel like spam is that email or pop-up that doesn't pertain to ANYTHING I'm doing. At least my posts are apropos within the confine of where I post. Thanks for being friendly, though.

I produce the most amazing roots consistantly now thanks to PermaClone's manual they send out with their collars. Now they have a blog that will teach you all their trick even if you don't run their collars. This one is probably the first article you should read...