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right so did what ya said didnt pack my soil put 30% vermiculate in one pot 50% in the other and guess what it happened again, it was doing great till today, nearly 3 inches in 4 days, i check it by slowly pulling it and it came staright out, as i was digging the groound seemed really packed...

cool thanks again everyone, yeah i wasnt convinced it was the seed as iv had 4 do this on me and a cutting so its obviouse that im missing somethng and course it will be simple ill be going straight to the newbies board after next step then is iv got some vermiculate ill try that say...

thanks for the replies, im hoping that it is the propegator and iv been leaving then in it too long, As for seeds iv been using big buddha seed, and the ufo freebies from attitude seed bank, as for light iv got a 125 watt cfl only few inches away. maybe ill change seed supplier and give it...

Evening peepe or morning anyways anyone ever seen this problem before, come back from work and the plants have all fallen over and there roots are non existent, PH is between 6.8 and 7, not using any nutrients yet as only first week and soil has 3 weeks worth of food, They have been in a...