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I'm more of a reader than a poster, but I'll engage in a debate as time permits. I work 60+ hours per week and have a family, I wont be posting too often, but I will contribute the best I can.

1) They do work...Aren't they ? Yes they do work. Do they work the best, or even worth the price? That remains to be seen. 2) Better be honest ,eh ? Almost 90% of any other panel in the market uses same quality (or even inferior ) parts.... There are plenty different LEDs, drivers, bin...

You sure spam that Astir LED a lot, and it's kind of bogus of you to do it in someone's grow journal. Isn't it true your only LED experience whatsoever, is with a 90 watt UFO from 3 or 4 years ago? Not that there is anything wrong with the Astir panels, but aren't those like $75 for 22 watts...

I would recommend to look for better LED lights. I've dealt with Blackstar, they are mediocre, a step above cheapo Chinese LEDs, but many steps below good quality LED panels. The best thing you can do, is look at current LED grow journals, and see which lights are doing best. Old journals...

By the looks of that light, there are 2 reds, 1 blue, and 1 white. Not nearly enough spectrum to successfully finish a plant.

Listen dumbass, You commented to me first. Secondly, I don't give a fuck about your list. And the "fag" comment is a little unnecessary. I have a wife and 3 kids and never touched or been touched by a man. This is the 1st ever thing you've ever said to me, you're the troll. I never said...

With that logic, we should all be using CFLs. I can get 1000 actual watts of CFL for less than $90 at Homedepot. Why would you respond to someone that just told you they put you on their ignore list? It's like talking to someone on the phone after you know they hung up on you.

Whatever you say dude... You seem to have your mind made up, and too closed minded to talk to. So, have a nice day :D

So because you contact the 3 crappiest LED sellers, that means ALL LEDs are inferior to HID, and no good unless it is 2x2 or smaller? What about 25"x25"? Or is that too big for LED :roll: I bought a $600 light from Fero last year, it was 360w, and I got just over 10oz from it. I had an...

As much of an LED naysayer you are, you must have tried LEDs in bigger than a 2x2 area to have that kind of a "matter of a fact" attitude about the subject. I'm using 465w of LED in a 4x4, and I'm quite content. My LED, tent, DIY hydro system all cost me less than $1000. You are entitled to...

Oh please tell us which light to buy oh mighty one whom doesn't know the flavor of marijuana.... Please tell us. Do you have more wisdom from the vaults from the days of Yore? Do tell. Do tell.......

I think you need to be quiet. You do not know these people to be making judgement like that. You don't even smoke weed dude, so shut the fuck up. You posted some asinine crap, someone commented on it, and you went retarded. Calm down dude. Take off your E-muscles.... Relax...

What's so difficult? 3 weeks veg, whatever weeks flower depending on strain, doing that I get 0.7-0.8 grams per watt with LED. Even with the 7-8 week strains. Am I retarded? Be careful what you say. You came barreling in here drunk driving a short bud.

I have an extra Hooked on Phonics I can hook your boy up with. I got it at a yard sale, came with a lamp I bought. Maybe Rumples can get something out if it. Rumply, my Hooked on Phonics is yours brother. Can you say "B R O T H E R" ?

And I'm glad there's people like you that do not care about their grammar. Makes things funny for smart people. Are you an animal? Did you not go to school? Jebus Crust peoples..... And btw, fuck Jorge. He's a journalist. You "email" Jorge? Tell him "2012 called and said to go fuck yourself"...

Who's going to do the journal with this light?

Mmmm... crack.....

Damn, you got me. Well, under the assumption that this weed is making you this high, I have a proposition for you. This is between me and you, only me and you can see this post ;) What is this strain you're smoking? Did you grow it? Are there clones? Can I have one? I have some lovely C99...

I liked this post because I am a huge wrestling geek, but, please, do discuss, how is that backwards from Hulk Hogan?

Whoa, I got one :D OP pay attention. Jim Carry backwards is: Crack is bad, mmkay, don't smoke crack.