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Not sure to whom you made a point - certainly not to me. Nor am I sure what point you tried to make. But whatever. I'm a wading. You too have a nice day.

I meant precisely what I said. "Who exactly" would be relevant to use for one specific violation of referential index. Instead I used the term indicating in general what you did since I didn't feel like writing a lengthy post pointing out each of the times you did it. I'm not sure what a "lawyer...

That is a shame. Since I have seen so much rudeness here, I only stop in from time to time. And it is true that trolls do not care much for facts and science. They are mainly trying to steer conversations, not genuinely participate. This kind of negativity seems to be what rollitup is...

I'm not sure to whom you are referring. So many words that lack referential index. (look it up) I come giving respect and expecting the same. It is a common decency in civilized gatherings. Maybe you are suggesting that this forum doesn't qualify as such? Personally I know of no threats. I see...

I totally agree. We can all do without the "shxx-storm" and lack of respect so many show here. It is strange that there does not seem to be any active moderation going on and people can get away with being rude and demean others over complete nonsense while diving into minutia and losing track...

The negativity and attacks on this forum make visiting here and reading less enjoyable than in other forums. I'm not sure why there is such negativity. That would especially be true for newbies who would serve to only be confused. And they, more than most, could really benefit by a calm...

Yes, that is the problem with the Mars ll. And I certainly was not advocating for either one - or any for that matter. I think the same way about American made versus Chinese. However, when it comes to repair and warranty, that's where the American made might be a little easier to deal with...

It's not really about the looks. Even a hooker looks good at 30 feet. LOL It's about what's inside that counts. (now that just reminds me too much of what mom used to say.)

Exactly PSUAGRO. Unfortunately I can vouch for what you are saying here FranJan, as well. Wasn't the smartest decision in the world to buy these. But oh well. Live and learn. Good luck getting any real info from them. In real life usage they don't hold a candle to well, much.

The Mars ll have no lenses. Try and get actual light ratings from them. Area 51 is a far more sure bet. But I have not had experience with Area 51. But their specs are excellent as is their rep.

Waaa cries the babies - ok, so maybe there would have been a better way to demonstrate that "it's all about the lights". A funded grow off would certainly do the trick. Had I been asked whether the account should be shown, I'd have advised against it. BUT, it's valuable that he is proving the...

I can't believe all the "cup half empty" thinking here. This is not an alternative lighting section. This is a forum on what would best serve a grower if he had a $2000 budget for lights. It is not disheartening at all to see a screenshot of a small portion of a companies success. It can give...

I agree with you Hyroot. And it's nice to see that one of the leaders in lights is successful. I personally hope that that screenshot is just a small drop in his ocean of success. Anyone that contributes that much to this field deserves to be successful.

I think his elevator doesn't quite reach the top floor. Or he is a few sandwiches short of a picnic. A few $ short of real lights. LOL

WOW to both of these pics. Those definitely are trichs. Are you running multiples of these lights by chance? Is there a best way to grow with these lights? Sog, scrog or does it matter? How do these lights do penetration wise?

I have 4 mothers. They are about four months old and quite bushy. How many CFL's would you recommend to keep these sufficiently lit? Watts/K? I assume around 4000 K or so to keep it in the bluish spectrum?

I would just need to build a much bigger space - but that would be extremely cool. :)

Thanks GG. Really appreciate your thoughts. Glad to hear the plants are happy under IG. Hyroot - would 6 IG's all with pontoons cover the area well, in your opinion? I am very interested in the trichome production as a lot of what I produce will be turned into oil. Is that as good with the...

Thanks. All good points. HID is far too hot for me as well. My timers are on battery backup. So there would be no lights coming on when they aren't supposed to. Good to know that the pontoons coming on would not be an issue. In my situation, I have to use cooling. And I have enough for LED or...

Hey Scarhole - if it's not to redundant to ask, would you mind telling me why you chose indagro over apache? Or point me to a post where you went over it? What kind of real world results to you get quality/weight wise when compared to a 1000 W HPS? Are we there yet, Or still not quite? Nice...