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oh i forgot to mention i can get 357 magnum plus model for 400 cash in town here. i just started a scrog with the one i bought the other day and that plants love it.

yeah its 405 canadian for 2 right now plus about a 100 shipping and then duty at my door im sure... but they are 10% off right now... for a few hours anyways. got any more recent pics so i can get a great idea of what they can do? awesome detail and pics so far!

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hey man im about to buy either 2 vipar 400 watt leds for about 400 delivered or should i go with 2 mars2 400 watt led for about 520 delivered? what would you recommend? i read that the vipars draw more watts by up to 30 watts more then the mars 2?

i'v had good turn outs with the 4100 kelvin bulbs. i use 12 x 100 watt cfl for veg and then i add 8 2700k 100 watt for flowering for a total of 20 100 watt cfls for flowering. little late to the post but someone else might find this usefull. and this is for 5or 6 plants i do agree that 6500k...

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